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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on May 17, 2013 18:23:47 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is denying Orton's usefulness. The problem is just that Orton is not being used in any real beneficial way. If they can't trust him in big angles, why can't they just officially move him to the midcard division or use him as a gatekeeper/legitimizer. He's not a midcarder, thats why. And he can still be a 'in case of emergency' type guy. Just like Big Show and Kane, where they spin the wheels doing much of nothing for months then next thing you know they're in the title hunt. The difference is that WWE aren't being being cautious when it comes to pushing Big Show or Kane. And with such a top-heavy roster, there are LOTS of options for "in case of emergency" guys. |
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Post by Cronant on May 17, 2013 18:27:58 GMT -5
He's not a midcarder, thats why. And he can still be a 'in case of emergency' type guy. Just like Big Show and Kane, where they spin the wheels doing much of nothing for months then next thing you know they're in the title hunt. The difference is that WWE aren't being being cautious when it comes to pushing Big Show or Kane. And with such a top-heavy roster, there are LOTS of options for "in case of emergency" guys, And Orton's one of the better options, seeing as he's actually over with little effort, and is experienced. He's still only feuding with other main eventers, on Smackdown, which could use some over guys. |
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 17, 2013 18:28:07 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2013 18:30:44 GMT -5
Aces and eights just got a higher power, a high chief, a COO and a financier.
What's Sokamishu doing in the Impact Zone doing Tazz?
What's Zach Diggler...
What's Eduardo Murphy...
What's Aubrey Maria...
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Post by spyda on May 17, 2013 18:36:14 GMT -5
Sorry to be a buzzkill to those that want Bo Dallas cut, but (spoilered for those that don't want NXT spoilers)... {Spoiler}He's going to win a Battle Royal in 2 weeks (TV time) to challenge Big E Langston for the NXT title. So at the very least we have Bo until June.  |
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Post by Dan Gerous on May 17, 2013 18:36:20 GMT -5
Open a new center, get rid of talent. Seems legit. Smart people at that WWE.
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Post by Cronant on May 17, 2013 18:39:31 GMT -5
Open a new center, get rid of talent. Seems legit. Smart people at that WWE. They are adding a ton of talent though. Thats why. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2013 18:39:50 GMT -5
Well, if they wasted the talent, it's their loss in the long run. I'd argue that it's worse to have them hanging around doing nothing for years than to have them prove themselves in another company. How can they prove themselves when the general wrestling fanbase thinks that WWE IS wrestling. They can succeed, but no one will know aside from smarks like us. WWE ultimately ruined these guys with the way they handled them. Bateman or Percy could go on to win titles elsewhere but they'd still have the fact that they "didn't amount to anything in the WWE" hanging over their heads. I don't even know if I'd want to see them in TNA, because no one takes TNA seriously, what with the whole "What's X Doing in the Impact Zone?" jokes and whatnot. They could have "didn't amount to anything in WWE" hanging over their heads, or, if they show what they're made of, they could be one of those "WWE dropped the ball on..." guys. If they can prove that the WWE threw away a lot of potential, then it would potentially be the WWE who would come crawling back. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on May 17, 2013 18:51:04 GMT -5
How can they prove themselves when the general wrestling fanbase thinks that WWE IS wrestling. They can succeed, but no one will know aside from smarks like us. WWE ultimately ruined these guys with the way they handled them. Bateman or Percy could go on to win titles elsewhere but they'd still have the fact that they "didn't amount to anything in the WWE" hanging over their heads. I don't even know if I'd want to see them in TNA, because no one takes TNA seriously, what with the whole "What's X Doing in the Impact Zone?" jokes and whatnot. They could have "didn't amount to anything in WWE" hanging over their heads, or, if they show what they're made of, they could be one of those "WWE dropped the ball on..." guys. If they can prove that the WWE threw away a lot of potential, then it would potentially be the WWE who would come crawling back. While some wrestlers have been released and come back, those guys were pretty young (Chris Masters, Idol/Sandow) or attained a certain point of notoriety (Matt & Jeff Hardy) at the time of their initial releases. Percy and Bateman are already in their early 30s, and Briley is 28. They'll all be a bit older by the time they "show what they're made of" and WWE probably won't have any interest because they don't even bother signing anyone over 30 anymore. This wouldn't upset me so much if WWE weren't pretty much the only game in town. |
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Post by BigBadZ on May 17, 2013 18:56:17 GMT -5
Just noticed the thread about Bateman being cut and instantly thought of "America f*** Yea" bummer version. Dang, I couldn't wait to see him on tv.... Hopefully he comes back in the future and given a chance on Smackdown.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2013 19:01:22 GMT -5
It's been a couple hours and I still can't get over the fact that they fired Briley.
At least now I don't have to watch NXT anymore, much like Smackdown and Punk-less Raw.
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Post by Bear Skin Rug on May 17, 2013 19:19:07 GMT -5
I'm a fan of Bateman. Sucks, but I'd rather he get an opportunity to be an active player somewhere else than sit and wait for another five years.
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Post by Sin Cara Tres on May 17, 2013 19:42:02 GMT -5
Bateman is awesome, really sucks to see him go.
I thought they'd keep Audrey Marie until they needed to do another Vince bastard child angle.
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Post by metylerca on May 17, 2013 19:45:06 GMT -5
Come on Bray Wyatt...
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Post by mizerable on May 17, 2013 19:49:31 GMT -5
I haven't seen him since he looked like Eddie Murphy from Bowfinger, but Percy Watson was pretty over when he was on NXT. It's amazing that the more potential you show, the less interested they seem at times. I mean christ, Brodus Clay of all people got pushed hard once NXT was done, whereas Johnny Curtis waited almost 2 f***in' years to finally get his push.
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 17, 2013 19:53:24 GMT -5
I haven't seen him since he looked like Eddie Murphy from Bowfinger, but Percy Watson was pretty over when he was on NXT. It's amazing that the more potential you show, the less interested they seem at times. I mean christ, Brodus Clay of all people got pushed hard once NXT was done, whereas Johnny Curtis waited almost 2 f***in' years to finally get his push. To be fair, before Dirty Curty, there was just no there there. He was an empty suit, or trunks I suppose, with no real personality other than Kaitlyn-lite. And he was worse in FCW. Brodus Clay's elimination promo on the NXT4 finale was more impressive than anything Johnny Curtis did that season. |
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Post by BigJerichool222 on May 17, 2013 19:56:05 GMT -5
If Audrey getting cut means they can hire FANDANGIRL full time, I welcome this change.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2013 19:56:25 GMT -5
TRENT? @trentylocks 3m
Very pissed about talented friends being fired. Can't explain things without sounding like a crazy person. It's gross, I promise.
I had actually forgotten about Trent's release.
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Post by percymania on May 17, 2013 20:17:43 GMT -5
Bateman AND Watson released?! This is the worst day ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Richard on May 17, 2013 20:18:10 GMT -5
TRENT? @trentylocks 3m Very pissed about talented friends being fired. Can't explain things without sounding like a crazy person. It's gross, I promise. Tom Prichard @drtomprichard @derrickwwe @trentylocks Guys trust me; Karma gets everybody. From the 'Lil Napolean to the Volleyball expert. Time will tell... Heel4Life @respectdaheel @drtomprichard @derrickwwe @trentylocks is Stephanie Mcmahon lil napolean and Triple is the Volleyball expert? Tom Prichard @drtomprichard @respectdaheel @derrickwwe @trentylocks No and No... Tom Prichard @drtomprichard Those who KNOW 'know' who Napolean and Mr. Volleyball are. 'Nuff said Heel4Life @respectdaheel @drtomprichard is this Mr Volleyball? lol pic.twitter.com/aktaUSNsiJTom Prichard @drtomprichard @respectdaheel How'd u like to get fired by THIS guy?? I DID!!! So don't feel so bad guys...There IS life after all the BS... Well, we know he's referring to this guy. |
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