WWE ruined Christian?

[RIHT]

Could Christian have become a top star in WWE with his whole heel run and saying "That's How I Roll!" while rapping(with no beat from Tomko) and being stupidly hilarious, but also over with a lot of crowds?

It's 2005. A new era is on the horizon for WWE. Faces have come and go, but WWE was ready for a change. Cena, Batista, & Orton were the young guns rising to the main event. Guys like Jericho and Angle were being cemented as veterans/legends. Triple H's Raw dominance was coming to an end. Familiar faces like Eddie Guerrero and Undertaker have changed from just a few years ago, Eddie with his huge heel turn and Undertaker returning to being the Deadman. Favorites like Edge and Benoit were moving up, too. But one person, who most probably didn't see much in, was there, too: Christian. Wasn't much after breaking up with Edge until his becoming the obnoxious, poser, heel, who was hilarious. With Tyson Tomko at his side, Christian had some confrontations with the now-infamous John Cena. Christian mocked him with raps and taunts, and was getting over, as well. A feud was on the horizon it seemed. Summerslam might've been the place to do it. It never happened. Christian never really happened. They just sent him to Smackdown in '05, then he left. He came back, but on ECW. He's old now. He won't be the huge star he could've been. Yes, Cena would still've been the face of the company, but his top heel could've been Christian it seems. Maybe it's just my opinion, but "That's How I Roll!" Christian is way better than mellow face Christian. I still like him, but I feel that he could've done more. Was it management? Were they protecting Cena? Am I alone in my feelings about Christian? Was it never meant to be? Or should this have happened?

[Hit Girl]

Never suited for the main event. Always best in the mid-card, but WWE blew it when they turned him heel during his last run

[BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps]

Nope. He wasn't that good.

[celticjobber]

I think if anything, TNA ruined him. I never enjoyed his run there and he's never been the same since.

Now he's about as bland and boring as someone like Mr. Anderson.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Christian gets to show all this personality as a heel, but his ring work shines as a face. I really wish they would just go with a face version of the Captain Charisma persona, smirking attitude and all.

Maybe being face of the company is out of the question, but he should still be a top contender. At best he should be always a contender, but never champion. At his worst, he should be the guy they give the IC or tag titles to give him something to do/make the belt look relevant.

[Professor Chaos]

He was my favorite in 2005 and the only reason I started watching TNA is cause he went there. I thought he was better off in TNA.

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Aug 11, 2013 0:35:31 GMT -5 BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps said:

Nope. He wasn't that good.

Aug 11, 2013 0:34:00 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

Never suited for the main event. Always best in the mid-card, but WWE blew it when they turned him heel during his last run

Why do you guys say that? Just curious. He's very good in the ring, his personality was outlandish but funny, and the crowds loved him through 2005. Cocky, yet likable. Reminds me a bit of the Rock(he got "peeps" from him). I don't think he could've been the top guy ever, but he could've been a big heel, maybe even just naturally turn face like Rock did after being so over. Cena's superhero didn't have a good villain in 2005-2006. He dominated everyone he feuded with, and really hasn't stopped until very recently(CM Punk, D-Bryan, etc.) Christian could've been that villain. WWE could've at least done more with Christian, but it's too late now.

[mizerable]

Aug 11, 2013 0:51:01 GMT -5 Professor Chaos said:

He was my favorite in 2005 and the only reason I started watching TNA is cause he went there. I thought he was better off in TNA.

Yeah, I enjoyed the hell out of him in TNA. It's weird because when Angle showed up, Angle was the exact opposite.

[homofojomo]

I thought he was money even in 2011. His latest run is doing nothing for me and it makes me sad because I legit cried when he won the WHC for the first time.

I also don't think he wrestles like he's all that old. He hardly seems slow in the ring...

[Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan]

I just could never see him as more than upper midcard.

My feeling on Christian is that he's your ideal utility player. He's good at everything, but he's not great at anything either. He's had the career he deserves (at least through his TNA run. I would've liked to have seen him play a bigger role since he came back to WWE, but it's not something I'm losing sleep over).

[Nic Nemeth]

His 2009 ECW run was the way I want Christian to be remembered. He was the top face of a brand that didn't matter much but still gave the fans willing to watch something to look forward to each week. Everything else is a joke.

[JCBaggee]

Feel he'll get a Mark Henry run in a few years. One last monster run and a relatively brief thank you reign before he hangs it up and goes into the HoF.

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Aug 11, 2013 1:41:07 GMT -5 Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan said:

I just could never see him as more than upper midcard.

My feeling on Christian is that he's your ideal utility player. He's good at everything, but he's not great at anything either. He's had the career he deserves (at least through his TNA run. I would've liked to have seen him play a bigger role since he came back to WWE, but it's not something I'm losing sleep over).

That's a pretty good assessment of Christian. He also doesn't have the "it factor" of Edge, and he's too clownish to be taken as a serious threat. Even in 2011 when he turned heel, his character just seemed way too over-the-top as a whining belly-acher.

I really want to like this guy, but he just isn't giving me reasons to get behind him as a serious threat. (Chris Jericho was in the same boat and he managed to find a way to turn it around. There's still hope for Christian as well.)

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I'd probably like him more if he got more promo time.

Even when he's being pushed, he gets a mic for like 20 seconds if he's lucky.

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Aug 11, 2013 0:51:31 GMT -5 RIHT said:

Aug 11, 2013 0:35:31 GMT -5 BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps said:

Nope. He wasn't that good.

Aug 11, 2013 0:34:00 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

Never suited for the main event. Always best in the mid-card, but WWE blew it when they turned him heel during his last run

Why do you guys say that? Just curious. He's very good in the ring, his personality was outlandish but funny, and the crowds loved him through 2005. Cocky, yet likable. Reminds me a bit of the Rock(he got "peeps" from him). I don't think he could've been the top guy ever, but he could've been a big heel, maybe even just naturally turn face like Rock did after being so over. Cena's superhero didn't have a good villain in 2005-2006. He dominated everyone he feuded with, and really hasn't stopped until very recently(CM Punk, D-Bryan, etc.) Christian could've been that villain. WWE could've at least done more with Christian, but it's too late now.

For me Christian is a good mechanic wrestler. He does all the moves they look decent, but he is one of the guys that when I watch, I say wow this is the weakest looking offense in the company. Nothing that he does, looks real to me. I think he is a decent character, but not a guy I'm going to give the ball too.

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

I think the problem is that nobody can suspend their belief that WWE is ever going to give him the ball at this point, so he's hit the glass ceiling with those bad world title runs and awful heel run and we expect anything he's being given is going to end with Del Boring tapping him the arm bar. He is being seen as more valuable giving the run to guys like the Shield as opposed to threatening to be a major player when we know that won't be the case.

[Red Impact]

I concur with a lot of posters above.

Christian is good at what he does, better than most at the company, but to me he really just lacks something that'd put him at the top. He's not at the top of the technical wrestlers, he's not the most exciting of the flyers, he doesn't have a killer looking finisher, he's a guy who, to me, you notice how good he is when he's on, but you tend to forget about pretty quickly when someone who does excel at something else comes on, even though he's more well rounded than they are.

[An Old Villain]

Just...bland.
Ive never understood the cult following he has tbh.
To me he is the personification of average (as it relates to guys at that level).
I don't like his work, or promos.
I don't dislike his work, or promos.
I don't want to cheer him.
I don't want to boo him.

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If Christian was my girlfriend for a few months then one day I came home from work and Christian had left me a Dear John letter and disappeared, id just shrug and go on with life.

[Djm Doesn't Find You Funny]

I think the last 2 years of Christian's career are a prime example of how good WWE is at telling the audience "No. You don't like this guy. He really isn't that good or that important." and getting people to go along with it.

I remember when the whole Internet wanted nothing more than Christian to be, at the very least, an occasional main eventer. But once the story from the Observer came out about Vince not caring for Christian, and the title loss from Randy happened, it all went to hell.

Someone should congratulate WWE on doing with Christian the same thing they did with John Morrison. When Vince McMahon says "You'll like what I tell you to like", he's not as far off as you think.

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Aug 11, 2013 12:03:35 GMT -5 Djm Doesn't Find You Funny said:

I think the last 2 years of Christian's career are a prime example of how good WWE is at telling the audience "No. You don't like this guy. He really isn't that good or that important." and getting people to go along with it.

I remember when the whole Internet wanted nothing more than Christian to be, at the very least, an occasional main eventer. But once the story from the Observer came out about Vince not caring for Christian, and the title loss from Randy happened, it all went to hell.

Someone should congratulate WWE on doing with Christian the same thing they did with John Morrison. When Vince McMahon says "You'll like what I tell you to like", he's not as far off as you think.

He wasn't bad as an occasional main eventer, but this thread was about him being a top star, and he's really not. It has nothing to do with WWE making him look bad, it has everything to do with the fact that the guy's abilities just put him on a specific level.