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Post by mrbananagrabber on Aug 28, 2013 12:43:54 GMT -5
I don't think I've seen these clips on here, but apologies if its been here before.
Anyway, video of a Q&A session with Eric Bishoff and Hulk Hogan. They get some asked some pretty good questions, whether the answers are any good is up to you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 13:15:49 GMT -5
That was pretty cool. I thought Hogan's answer about the two things TNA needs was classic leaving room for backpedaling. Give the keys to Bischoff...and let him magically have all the money in the world for everything. Simultaneously putting over Bischoff and covering for him if he fails.
Aside from that I really liked it.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 28, 2013 14:02:26 GMT -5
Good luck getting that Black Card from TNA, Eric.
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Post by Glitch on Aug 28, 2013 19:05:24 GMT -5
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 28, 2013 19:18:30 GMT -5
Give Bischoff the keys to the car and within a few years, Vince McMahon will own that car's video library
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Post by SOR on Aug 28, 2013 19:25:15 GMT -5
I agree with Hulk. Give Eric complete control of TNA and as much money as he needs or at least a bigger budget. I know TNA doesn't make much per year so maybe operate at a loss for a little bit but update things such as Stage, Advertising etc. TNA does look lower class compared to WWE on TV and really needs a new make over. The set is very generic and Bound For Glory doesn't look big time at all and it should.
Eric is obviously a very smart guy from just listening to him. At the end of that first video he discusses making money off Ipad's and iPhones etc etc and that's something TNA should be trying to do also not to mention other big TV Shows. There's so much money in that and I think Eric has the mind to make something entirely new out of it and have TNA do something extremely original with that.
It's a shame that Eric didn't have more time to talk. I always like hearing from him.
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Post by Glitch on Aug 28, 2013 20:48:00 GMT -5
Give bischoff complete control and lots of money? If only there was a way to see what it would look like. If only there was a promotion down in Georgia that applied this to their company.
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Post by SOR on Aug 28, 2013 20:53:43 GMT -5
Give bischoff complete control and lots of money? If only there was a way to see what it would look like. If only there was a promotion down in Georgia that applied this to their company. The only company in history to beat WWE in the ratings? The one where the WWE got so close to going out of business they couldn't keep water coolers in the office because they didn't have the money? The company that did that? Yeah, you're right. It'd be stupid.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 28, 2013 21:05:14 GMT -5
Bischoff is really saying just common sense things. Everyone knows networks need to figure out how to better monetize portable devices, but that's about as descript as saying they could make money in the stock market. Yeah, you can know you that something would be a good idea, but obviously you have to actually come up with the proper means to do so, and no one has yet.
But I liked the rest he said about television. It shouldn't be about competing with WWE, and people make that mistake when trying to compare past ratings and buyrates with current ratings and buyrates, because WWE isn't competing with themselves of 15 years ago. He gets that, they just have to figure out how to do something about it because, once again, just because he recognizes the problem doesn't mean he has a good solution on how to fix it.
As far as giving him all the money, I get what he's saying, but I really don't even think it's a matter of throwing all the money at it. Upgrading things wouldn't hurt, but you have to come up with the big moments and be able to capitalize on that. Neither company is really doing that that well right now, and when they do come up with something, they usually can't follow through to make it great.
The rest of the interview was interesting enough. I agree with Eric that nWo would not have been as big as it was with Sting. Hogan, being on the level that he was, is what rocketed it to the stratosphere.
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Post by Talent Name on Aug 28, 2013 21:07:11 GMT -5
Give bischoff complete control and lots of money? If only there was a way to see what it would look like. If only there was a promotion down in Georgia that applied this to their company. The only company in history to beat WWE in the ratings? The one where the WWE got so close to going out of business they couldn't keep water coolers in the office because they didn't have the money? The company that did that? Yeah, you're right. It'd be stupid. Yet where is that company today, on WWE DVD's and the only reason it was the only company to beat WWE in the ratings was that is had a reliable outlet to air its shows on unlike the competitors which were usually on local t.v. networks at 3 in the morning. WWE actually adapted to changes and TNA is having that same problem its not really adapting its trying to reuse old models and see if they can change the outcome, look at what is happening with BFG series it has turned into a giant mess. The only person who I wouldn't trust with my money not named Paul Heyman is Eric
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Post by gnr123 on Aug 28, 2013 21:09:21 GMT -5
Give bischoff complete control and lots of money? If only there was a way to see what it would look like. If only there was a promotion down in Georgia that applied this to their company. The only company in history to beat WWE in the ratings? The one where the WWE got so close to going out of business they couldn't keep water coolers in the office because they didn't have the money? The company that did that? Yeah, you're right. It'd be stupid. Yeah, in 1997. Now, WWE is an established worldwide empire with revenue of 450 million yearly. Sure, I'm not taking away Bischoff's accomplishments, but let's not et ahead of ourselves here. That was nearly 2 decades ago when guy's like Hogan and Sting were still massively relevant and popular, not to mention Bischoff has the checkbook of a Billionaire and signed many top stars from WWE. I highly doubt someone like John Cena is going to go over to TNA for less money. Think about it, WCW has enough money to offer the star's MORE to go to WCW. I highly doubt TNA has enough money to even keep Hulk Hogan on pay-roll for another 2 years. And besides, people don't look at the other underlined fact's about the Monday Night War's. One was that RAW wasn't an established brand yet, they were taping show 2, three weeks in advance. They didn't have a top face. They were still booking the cartoonish character's while WCW was more edgy and "real." And to be honest, watching back to old episodes on the internet, Nitro was a better product around the time because RAW wasn't as nearly as entertaining. Once they establish a top face and their core product going forward (the Attitude Era) WCW got their asses kicked. Now, RAW get's 3 to 4 million viewer's a night, they have a top face, they have an established brand, and WWE makes 450 million dollar's a year. And, it's much, much more entertaining than it was in 1995-1996. Sure, you can use statistic's from the past to prove that Bischoff was successful. But it does not mean he will be in 2013. Especially without the resources and talent that WCW had.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 28, 2013 21:12:14 GMT -5
The only company in history to beat WWE in the ratings? The one where the WWE got so close to going out of business they couldn't keep water coolers in the office because they didn't have the money? The company that did that? Yeah, you're right. It'd be stupid. Yeah, in 1997. Now, WWE is an established worldwide empire with revenue of 450 million yearly. Sure, I'm not taking away Bischoff's accomplishments, but let's not et ahead of ourselves here. That was nearly 2 decades ago when guy's like Hogan and Sting were still massively relevant and popular, not to mention Bischoff has the checkbook of a Billionaire and signed many top stars from WWE. I highly doubt someone like John Cena is going to go over to TNA for less money. Think about it, WCW has enough money to offer the star's MORE to go to WCW. I highly doubt TNA has enough money to even keep Hulk Hogan on pay-roll for another 2 years. And besides, people don't look at the other underlined fact's about the Monday Night War's. One was that RAW wasn't an established brand yet, they were taping show 2, three weeks in advance. They didn't have a top face. They were still booking the cartoonish character's while WCW was more edgy and "real." And to be honest, watching back to old episodes on the internet, Nitro was a better product around the time because RAW wasn't as nearly as entertaining. Once they establish a top face and their core product going forward (the Attitude Era) WCW got their asses kicked. Now, RAW get's 3 to 4 million viewer's a night, they have a top face, they have an established brand, and WWE makes 450 million dollar's a year. And, it's much, much more entertaining than it was in 1995-1996. Sure, you can use statistic's from the past to prove that Bischoff was successful. But it does not mean he will be in 2013. Especially without the resources and talent that WCW had. Part of Hogan's 2-part process was that they needed the money to be able to make it work, it wasn't just giving Eric the reigns. So if Hogan got a magic lamp and used his first two wishes on that, they'd have the money to offer more money. He knows they don't have it now, he thinks they need it to be successful.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 28, 2013 21:16:11 GMT -5
I agree with Hulk. Give Eric complete control of TNA and as much money as he needs or at least a bigger budget. Then he could hire Cena and take on WWE! It's pie in the sky thinking. Give bischoff complete control and lots of money? If only there was a way to see what it would look like. If only there was a promotion down in Georgia that applied this to their company. The only company in history to beat WWE in the ratings? The one where the WWE got so close to going out of business they couldn't keep water coolers in the office because they didn't have the money? The company that did that? Yeah, you're right. It'd be stupid. Titanic had a few pleasant days before hitting the iceberg too.
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Post by gnr123 on Aug 28, 2013 21:17:52 GMT -5
Yeah, in 1997. Now, WWE is an established worldwide empire with revenue of 450 million yearly. Sure, I'm not taking away Bischoff's accomplishments, but let's not et ahead of ourselves here. That was nearly 2 decades ago when guy's like Hogan and Sting were still massively relevant and popular, not to mention Bischoff has the checkbook of a Billionaire and signed many top stars from WWE. I highly doubt someone like John Cena is going to go over to TNA for less money. Think about it, WCW has enough money to offer the star's MORE to go to WCW. I highly doubt TNA has enough money to even keep Hulk Hogan on pay-roll for another 2 years. And besides, people don't look at the other underlined fact's about the Monday Night War's. One was that RAW wasn't an established brand yet, they were taping show 2, three weeks in advance. They didn't have a top face. They were still booking the cartoonish character's while WCW was more edgy and "real." And to be honest, watching back to old episodes on the internet, Nitro was a better product around the time because RAW wasn't as nearly as entertaining. Once they establish a top face and their core product going forward (the Attitude Era) WCW got their asses kicked. Now, RAW get's 3 to 4 million viewer's a night, they have a top face, they have an established brand, and WWE makes 450 million dollar's a year. And, it's much, much more entertaining than it was in 1995-1996. Sure, you can use statistic's from the past to prove that Bischoff was successful. But it does not mean he will be in 2013. Especially without the resources and talent that WCW had. Part of Hogan's 2-part process was that they needed the money to be able to make it work, it wasn't just giving Eric the reigns. So if Hogan got a magic lamp and used his first two wishes on that, they'd have the money to offer more money. He knows they don't have it now, he thinks they need it to be successful. Of course you need money to be successful. But, your right, they don't have it now and they haven't for TEN year's. Dixie Carter isn't going to wake up one day and is going to have shit tons of money in her bank account to throw around. With the report's that their losing money from going on the road (which isn't surprising considering the attendance's their getting for these shows) their currently losing more than their gaining.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 28, 2013 21:46:07 GMT -5
Part of Hogan's 2-part process was that they needed the money to be able to make it work, it wasn't just giving Eric the reigns. So if Hogan got a magic lamp and used his first two wishes on that, they'd have the money to offer more money. He knows they don't have it now, he thinks they need it to be successful. Of course you need money to be successful. But, your right, they don't have it now and they haven't for TEN year's. Dixie Carter isn't going to wake up one day and is going to have shit tons of money in her bank account to throw around. With the report's that their losing money from going on the road (which isn't surprising considering the attendance's their getting for these shows) their currently losing more than their gaining. Right,I was only saying that he said they needed both when asked what two things TNA needs to be successful. He didn't just say "Give Bischoff the keys," he said "Give Bischoff the keys and somehow, whether through a big sponsorship deal or whatever, get the money and equipment they need." So the response "They don't have the money to do that" only addresses half of what he said, he clearly knows they don't have everything,and the way he answered it makes it pretty obvious that he doesn't expect Panda to write him a blank check either.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 28, 2013 21:56:23 GMT -5
Eric is obviously a very smart guy from just listening to him. At the end of that first video he discusses making money off Ipad's and iPhones etc etc and that's something TNA should be trying to do also not to mention other big TV Shows. There's so much money in that and I think Eric has the mind to make something entirely new out of it and have TNA do something extremely original with that. AKA - "Apps"
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 28, 2013 23:38:57 GMT -5
Give bischoff complete control and lots of money? If only there was a way to see what it would look like. If only there was a promotion down in Georgia that applied this to their company. The only company in history to beat WWE in the ratings? The one where the WWE got so close to going out of business they couldn't keep water coolers in the office because they didn't have the money? The company that did that? Yep, the same one that did all that, and was then out of business a few years later. If you want to acknowledge the rise of WCW's ratings, you've got to acknowledge the fall and the fact that WCW lost. Eric Bischoff would go on to work for Vince McMahon, not the other way around. In the end what matters is who is standing tall at the end of the day. Also Bischoff needs all the money. WWE was in terrible financial shape, and going against WCW, yet they still came back and won. If WWE could make the comeback without much money, Bischoff should be able to make TNA bigger than it is without much money.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Aug 29, 2013 1:59:34 GMT -5
Bischoff knows how to make a small fortune in wrestling, the first step is to start with a large fortune...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 2:22:45 GMT -5
Part of Hogan's 2-part process was that they needed the money to be able to make it work, it wasn't just giving Eric the reigns. So if Hogan got a magic lamp and used his first two wishes on that, they'd have the money to offer more money. He knows they don't have it now, he thinks they need it to be successful. Of course you need money to be successful. But, your right, they don't have it now and they haven't for TEN year's. Dixie Carter isn't going to wake up one day and is going to have shit tons of money in her bank account to throw around. With the report's that their losing money from going on the road (which isn't surprising considering the attendance's their getting for these shows) their currently losing more than their gaining. Precisely why the answer is such classic Hogan schlock. "If this completely implausible scenario happens, I'm tellin' ya brother, Bischoff can take this thing to the next level.". Thanks, jack.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 29, 2013 6:01:53 GMT -5
Eric is obviously a very smart guy from just listening to him. At the end of that first video he discusses making money off Ipad's and iPhones etc etc and that's something TNA should be trying to do also not to mention other big TV Shows. There's so much money in that and I think Eric has the mind to make something entirely new out of it and have TNA do something extremely original with that. AKA - "Apps" Next brilliant idea is creating a social media network where people can talk to other people on the internet. And I don't get how a workout app with Jeff Hardy is going to fill TNA's coffers. Now an app with Brooke Tessmaucher twerking, that's a money maker.
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