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Post by shootinterviewfan on Aug 28, 2013 14:10:06 GMT -5
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Post by Kash Flagg on Aug 28, 2013 14:17:49 GMT -5
That article was terrible.
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Post by shootinterviewfan on Aug 28, 2013 14:20:41 GMT -5
really just about the video preview I guess. I have watched the whole interview, and it's his best yet. Doesn't hold back like he has done in the past. Says it's his last ever wrestling interview.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 14:23:54 GMT -5
Watched the shoot last night and it was shots at them for putting on 4 star matches instead of being characters. What got me annoyed was that Daniels is currently one of the best heel character going.
Not a bad shoot. Not familiar with WCW 2000 so it was interesting. I disagree with a lot of it but still entertaining
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Post by Kash Flagg on Aug 28, 2013 14:26:15 GMT -5
Watched the shoot last night and it was shots at them for putting on 4 star matches instead of being characters. What got me annoyed was that Daniels is currently one of the best heel character going. Not a bad shoot. Not familiar with WCW 2000 so it was interesting. I disagree with a lot of it but still entertaining How "shooty" does he get? His previous outings have been lackluster to say the least.
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Post by shootinterviewfan on Aug 28, 2013 14:27:33 GMT -5
yea, I think he must have been talking about Daniels from a few years back. Because Daniels is probably one of the best things on TNA right now. I have always agreed with Russo's philosophy though. Right now, TNA is definitely predictable and that equals boring.
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Post by shootinterviewfan on Aug 28, 2013 14:29:36 GMT -5
Watched the shoot last night and it was shots at them for putting on 4 star matches instead of being characters. What got me annoyed was that Daniels is currently one of the best heel character going. Not a bad shoot. Not familiar with WCW 2000 so it was interesting. I disagree with a lot of it but still entertaining How "shooty" does he get? His previous outings have been lackluster to say the least. He doesn't really shoot on anyone in the new jack sense (remember, Vince is a Christian after all!!!!) - but he throwsa out some names and appears more angry and bitter which is good to see.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 14:31:34 GMT -5
Watched the shoot last night and it was shots at them for putting on 4 star matches instead of being characters. What got me annoyed was that Daniels is currently one of the best heel character going. Not a bad shoot. Not familiar with WCW 2000 so it was interesting. I disagree with a lot of it but still entertaining How "shooty" does he get? His previous outings have been lackluster to say the least. I thought he was kinda "shooty" sadly I may not be the best judge as I never saw any of his other ones so I can't compare. He has the mind set through it that this will be his last one so he does seen more honest.
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Post by Clueless Steve on Aug 28, 2013 14:54:19 GMT -5
Russo is an idiot. He's ragging on wrestlers for wanting to put on good wrestling matches above all else? Come on.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 28, 2013 15:01:00 GMT -5
Does he take responsibility for any of his stupid decisions on this? Or does he continue to blame everyone else?
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Post by JTG Fan on Aug 28, 2013 15:48:13 GMT -5
Yeah this probably goes back to when Daniels had been in TNA for years and then Russo came in and suddenly Daniels was face-painting evil, reformed XXX, was Curry Man, was Suicide, and a host of other stupid crap.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Aug 28, 2013 16:21:39 GMT -5
I get what he's saying, the problem is Christopher Daniels has ended up with a great character in the past few years and it obviously shows that he doesn't know what is going on currently with TNA. Was Russo in TNA when Daniels started the character he has now?
Not only that, a lot of these guys weren't given mic time, so that's another big problem.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 28, 2013 16:23:09 GMT -5
Does he take responsibility for any of his stupid decisions on this? Or does he continue to blame everyone else? Nope..........he has never taken responsibility for it being a bad idea. He has taken responsibility for some of his actions, but he has always found ways to spin in into "his favor" (ie David Arquette, Tank Abbott, that interview that got him the accusations of being a racist)
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 28, 2013 16:24:28 GMT -5
I get what he's saying, the problem is Christopher Daniels has ended up with a great character in the past few years and it obviously shows that he doesn't know what is going on currently with TNA. Was Russo in TNA when Daniels started the character he has now? Not only that, a lot of these guys weren't given mic time, so that's another big problem. The current character he has now was about maybe a month or two after Russo got fired.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 28, 2013 16:36:20 GMT -5
Was the guy who he gave 3 belts to who's now complaining Lance Storm?
Just from the preview, he really still can't see it. At the end, where he says that him telling them what they do, and have put themselves through a lot of pain and sacrifice for is a joke, that he expects them to love that. That is unbelievable.
Yes he has good points, and people should be able to act and it's all a storyline. But you have to respect what you're doing too, which he doesn't seem to do. There are certain actors, if you tell them what they do is a joke and playing dress up, will try to knock you the hell out, wrestling's the same, if ot worse because wrestlers put themselves through so much for it.
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Aug 28, 2013 18:00:34 GMT -5
Russo is an idiot. He's ragging on wrestlers for wanting to put on good wrestling matches above all else? Come on. Although isn't he kind of right. All he was saying was that characters are what draw money and are what the performers use to get people invested into their wrestling match. He said that without character the whatever star matches don't mean anything when it's just spot after spot which is right, is it not? I don't see how those statements are idiotic at all.
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Post by Clueless Steve on Aug 28, 2013 18:39:52 GMT -5
Russo is an idiot. He's ragging on wrestlers for wanting to put on good wrestling matches above all else? Come on. Although isn't he kind of right. All he was saying was that characters are what draw money and are what the performers use to get people invested into their wrestling match. He said that without character the whatever star matches don't mean anything when it's just spot after spot which is right, is it not? I don't see how those statements are idiotic at all. That may have been the case with WWE & WCW, but TNA, at one point, was the alternative. For a while, it was "where wrestling matters." Fans wanted the wrestling and not all the garbage that comes with Russo's brand of sports entertainment. Sometimes, it's best to just keep it simple. Some guys don't need characters. For some, all they need to get over is good wrestling matches. Joe, AJ, & Daniels didn't have the strongest characters and still had what is widely regarded as the best match in TNA history. Hell, when Daniels had a "character" in Curry Man, he wasn't anywhere near as prominent as regular Chris Daniels.
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Post by SOR on Aug 28, 2013 19:03:32 GMT -5
Gotta agree with the man. For a non hardcore wrestling fan match quality does not matter in the least as a matter of fact many industry experts say that most casual fans only care about the start and the finish of a match. The middle they don't care about in the least and I tend to agree with that. I might purchase this if Russo goes all out and starts shooting on people. Very cool. Watched the shoot last night and it was shots at them for putting on 4 star matches instead of being characters. What got me annoyed was that Daniels is currently one of the best heel character going. How? He's a cocky guy who drinks a Martini it's hardly a massive character who has tons of back story. Take the Martini away and you have a generic cocky heel who cheats to win. Yeah this probably goes back to when Daniels had been in TNA for years and then Russo came in and suddenly Daniels was face-painting evil, reformed XXX, was Curry Man, was Suicide, and a host of other stupid crap. Curry Man is the correct way to use Daniels in my mind so if that was Russo's idea, kudos to him. Curry Man was funny and could wrestle well for the existing Daniels fans and you had a fun comedic babyface for new fans. Current Daniels is boring with everything outside the ring. Although isn't he kind of right. All he was saying was that characters are what draw money and are what the performers use to get people invested into their wrestling match. He said that without character the whatever star matches don't mean anything when it's just spot after spot which is right, is it not? I don't see how those statements are idiotic at all. That may have been the case with WWE & WCW, but TNA, at one point, was the alternative. For a while, it was "where wrestling matters." Fans wanted the wrestling and not all the garbage that comes with Russo's brand of sports entertainment. Sometimes, it's best to just keep it simple. Some guys don't need characters. For some, all they need to get over is good wrestling matches. Joe, AJ, & Daniels didn't have the strongest characters and still had what is widely regarded as the best match in TNA history. Hell, when Daniels had a "character" in Curry Man, he wasn't anywhere near as prominent as regular Chris Daniels. And where was TNA when wrestling mattered? Wrestling in front of 850 people in the Impact Zone with no international exposure and I believe back then it was also losing money because quite frankly nobody cared that TNA had amazing matches. They go the Sports Entertainment route and now they're drawing 3-4 thousand for TV and can draw 5-10 thousand for big arena shows and Pay Per Views. Ratings have improved since 05-06 also. It is dumb to make your product "niche" unless the niche audience is big enough to warrant it. With wrestling, it isn't. You can't cater to the people who just like good wrestling because you won't get enough viewers to make it worth it. Even ROH has slowly moved away from being "niche" but regardless they haven't grown significantly in years The guys who go out looking to have 5 star matches or whatever are your "mark wrestlers" They're the guys with the biggest ego's who want to be spoken about online or something to boost their ego's that's really all it is. Guys like AJ and Joe are smart and have toned it down in recent years but Daniels hasn't got the memo yet.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 28, 2013 19:08:51 GMT -5
SOR, massive characters aren't needed. Just have some character, which Daniels has, and its one of the most entertaining characters in TNA. Russo never understood being an alternative to WWE and that his overbooking of crap has long since passed.
People want it simple, SOR and I'm not sure you understand that.
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Post by Clueless Steve on Aug 28, 2013 19:14:19 GMT -5
TNA had international exposure for a long time & booked shows in bigger arenas long before the emphasis on Sports Entertainment. To insinuate that Daniels has a big ego because he wants to put on great matches shows you don't know him. From people that worked with him and guys he helped along in the business, Daniels has no ego to speak of and goes out of his own way to accommodate others.
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