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Post by Instant Classic on Sept 4, 2013 18:45:48 GMT -5
What do you believe to be the worst Mania since Mania 15?
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Post by Jiren on Sept 4, 2013 18:49:05 GMT -5
16
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Post by legendkiller1985 on Sept 4, 2013 18:49:50 GMT -5
XVI was pretty bad outside of the Triangle Ladder Match XXVII didn't really have any redeeming qualities outside of Triple H/Taker
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Sept 4, 2013 18:59:05 GMT -5
27, aka "The Rock is back so f*** yourself current roster, we're running on Attitude Era stars for the next two or 3 years to sell our big name PPVs"
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Sept 4, 2013 19:06:23 GMT -5
If it wasn't for Taker/Shawn, I'd say 25, which was a pretty substantial letdown outside of that match. With that being said, I'm with everyone else - 27 takes the cake. It was nothing more than a vehicle to build the following year's show.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 19:07:47 GMT -5
I'd say 18. At least 25 and 27 have the Taker matches going for them. 18's best match is probably Taker / Flair and I don't really care for that match.
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Post by Shark on Sept 4, 2013 19:08:36 GMT -5
27 no doubt. I remember being so blah about that card even before the event that I happily accepted tickets to a Lakers game that same day. I cared so little about that Wrestlemania that I didn't even notice the game was the same day.
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Post by celticjobber on Sept 4, 2013 19:15:03 GMT -5
WM 16 was terrible. And aside from Punk/Taker, WM 29 was pretty bad as well.
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Post by mizerable on Sept 4, 2013 19:22:56 GMT -5
27 is quite possibly the second worst Mania next to 11. It was also the worst main event ever.
At least 9 had some fun moments and it was the last we saw of the wrestling golden age.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 19:24:33 GMT -5
27 is quite possibly the second worst Mania next to 11. It was also the worst main event ever. At least 9 had some fun moments and it was the last we saw of the wrestling golden age. Cena / Miz wasn't great, but I wouldn't say it's the worst Mania main event ever. Even with 9 out of the question, you had 11 where the main event was a meaningless match between a lifetime midcarder and a football player and 8 where it ended in a DQ.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 19:42:11 GMT -5
27/29 are awful events, but 29 takes the cake.
'Taker/Punk is good, and I enjoy the far too short Del Rio/Swagger & Hell No/Big ZE but aside from that...wow, bad in all terms, wrestling/pacing/big match feelings/results.
A way to waste great talent in regards to sales & talent (Lesnar/Rock), and a great way to make the product feel stale.
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Post by BigBadZ on Sept 4, 2013 19:55:19 GMT -5
I'd say 18. At least 25 and 27 have the Taker matches going for them. 18's best match is probably Taker / Flair and I don't really care for that match. I'd say that Rock vs Hogan alone puts it way out of the running for worst Wrestlemania. As for the topic, Wrestlemania "2000" is just barely better than FillerMania 27. I feel lucky to have been there live to witness Edge's final match but I didn't know that going in. WM 27 was basically a set up to 28 with Rock/Cena and Triple H/Taker 2: HiaC. Side note: I have terrible luck with Wrestlemania firsts. The first ppv I ever saw live on tv was Wrestlemania 15 and the first Wrestlemania I attended was 27.
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Post by Some Guy on Sept 4, 2013 19:58:27 GMT -5
27 is quite possibly the second worst Mania next to 11. It was also the worst main event ever. At least 9 had some fun moments and it was the last we saw of the wrestling golden age. 27 had three good to very good matches, that's far more than 9 can say. I understand that the main event was utter garbage and Lawler/Cole might be the worst match in history, but that doesn't make it the worst.
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Post by thegame415 on Sept 4, 2013 20:02:45 GMT -5
16. The only thing saving 25 and 27 are the Undertaker matches.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 20:11:02 GMT -5
I'd say 18. At least 25 and 27 have the Taker matches going for them. 18's best match is probably Taker / Flair and I don't really care for that match. I'd say that Rock vs Hogan alone puts it way out of the running for worst Wrestlemania. As for the topic, Wrestlemania "2000" is just barely better than FillerMania 27. I feel lucky to have been there live to witness Edge's final match but I didn't know that going in. WM 27 was basically a set up to 28 with Rock/Cena and Triple H/Taker 2: HiaC. Side note: I have terrible luck with Wrestlemania firsts. The first ppv I ever saw live on tv was Wrestlemania 15 and the first Wrestlemania I attended was 27. Eh, I guess. Honestly, I have always hated Rock / Hogan. Just always found it very bland; crowd makes the match I guess but since I've never been much of a fan of either (both have plenty of moments and matches I like a lot, but neither's ever been someone I've actively looked forward to watching) the reaction's never meant much to me. Though that being said I will give them both credit that I completely love their Mania 19 matches.
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 4, 2013 20:14:26 GMT -5
My "relationship" with WrestleMania is an odd one.
The first wrestling PPV I ever saw was WM VII, Hogan vs. Slaughter. I watched 7-10, even attended Wrestlemania X at MSG.
Then I didn't watch a single WM until 2004, when Eddie and Benoit made it, and then I didn't watch one until WM XXVII, because my cousin orders a couple of PPV's a year.
I've now seen the last three WM's because of this, and I keep finding that whatever other show my cousin orders in that year routinely outshines WM. Outside of usually one match at each show, they tend to be pretty brutal and dull to sit through.
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Sept 4, 2013 20:15:13 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 27. While there were some decent matches (Punk/Orton, Rhodes/Mysterio), nothing felt big outside of Taker/HHH. Despite The Rock being back, the show never had that Wrestlemania feel. It doesn't help that it now feels like a buildup to next year's Mania. And yes, Miz/Cena is one of the worst Wrestlemania main events. Not the worst, but it's up there. Also, Lawler/Cole.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 20:18:20 GMT -5
My "relationship" with WrestleMania is an odd one. The first wrestling PPV I ever saw was WM VII, Hogan vs. Slaughter. I watched 7-10, even attended Wrestlemania X at MSG. Then I didn't watch a single WM until 2004, when Eddie and Benoit made it, and then I didn't watch one until WM XXVII, because my cousin orders a couple of PPV's a year. I've now seen the last three WM's because of this, and I keep finding that whatever other show my cousin orders in that year routinely outshines WM. Outside of usually one match at each show, they tend to be pretty brutal and dull to sit through. Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with that. Personally I don't think there's been a good Mania since 24. And yet here I am planning months in advance to spend hundreds of dollars to go to Mania 30, though that's mostly because my best friend lives in Louisiana and I want to use the occasion as an excuse to finally meet him in person.
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Post by BRV on Sept 4, 2013 20:23:09 GMT -5
WrestleMania XXVII was pretty dire. Outside of a passable CM Punk vs. Randy Orton match and the Undertaker vs. Triple H match, which miserably fails the rewatchability test, the event was fairly unimpressive on the whole.
Although I wouldn't blame anyone who cast a vote for WrestleMania 29. Had I not been there live, I probably would not have been too impressed by it. The first handful of matches were too short or rushed, then you had that awesome CM Punk vs. Undertaker match, followed by Brock Lesnar vs. Triple H, which sucked the life out of the stadium, all concluded by Cena-Rock II, of which 20 of the 30 minutes were pretty stale.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 20:26:08 GMT -5
the Undertaker vs. Triple H match, which miserably fails the rewatchability test I can see where it would for some people, given the nature of it, though personally I absolutely love that match. I've probably seen it like ten times.
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