MolotovMocktail
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Sept 7, 2013 15:59:43 GMT -5
Good. Randy Savage was far too huge of a superstar to be lumped into a group induction. I'm not against the Poffo's going in, but that should be completely separate from Macho Man's own induction. I agree with this. Angelo was one of the old-school territorial promoters, so he could get in on the merits of that. Lanny was a tougher sell to go in as a wrestler, but they could induct The Genius as a manager. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2013 16:01:46 GMT -5
Miss Elizabeth definitely has to go in within the same HoF class.
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hassanchop
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Post by hassanchop on Sept 7, 2013 16:41:59 GMT -5
Speaking of induction what about Bulldog? I heard a few months back about Diana Hart saying that only time will tell when a fan asked her about it.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Sept 7, 2013 16:45:02 GMT -5
Did anyone actually read what he said? He pretty much said "Yeah you guys can go ahead and disrespect what my dead brother wanted as long as you don't stick my name onto it"
That's not really saying "You can induct my brother" to me as much as "You can technically do whatever you want if you don't mind being assholes"
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Post by BigBadZ on Sept 7, 2013 16:51:28 GMT -5
I'm not going to get into Lanny but Macho Man deserved this since the first year. It just breaks me up to think Savage wont be there to make a speech. I'm sure Lanny will accept it but if for any reason he doesn't, they should just play the "I'M NOT TALKING" promo from WCW.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Sept 7, 2013 16:56:58 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why Savage had to make that stipulation in the first place. It's one thing to be supportive of your family, but you'd think he would have realized just how much his career eclipsed and how much more he influenced the industry than both Lanny and his father.
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Post by celticjobber on Sept 7, 2013 17:03:32 GMT -5
I remember reading that Lanny said this several months ago (maybe even around the beginning of the year?).
And I don't take it as Lanny giving his permission, it's more like "You can put Randy in without his father and brother -- against his wishes if you want to. But it would be a really tasteless and shitty thing to do, and I won't support it."
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Sept 7, 2013 17:08:31 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why Savage had to make that stipulation in the first place. It's one thing to be supportive of your family, but you'd think he would have realized just how much his career eclipsed and how much more he influenced the industry than both Lanny and his father. I believe Lanny said that it was after the Von Erichs were inducted as a family(which would include Mike and Chris, who didn't do much in the business) that Randy wanted them all put in as a family. If that is true, I think it's a tremendously unselfish thing for Randy to do on the part of his family despite being the most successful of them all and a bonafide HOF'er on his own. |
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Post by celticjobber on Sept 7, 2013 17:18:13 GMT -5
What I don't understand is why Savage had to make that stipulation in the first place. It's one thing to be supportive of your family, but you'd think he would have realized just how much his career eclipsed and how much more he influenced the industry than both Lanny and his father. I believe Lanny said that it was after the Von Erichs were inducted as a family(which would include Mike and Chris, who didn't do much in the business) that Randy wanted them all put in as a family. If that is true, I think it's a tremendously unselfish thing for Randy to do on the part of his family despite being the most successful of them all and a bonafide HOF'er on his own. Randy also demanded that WCW put his dad Angelo in their Hall of Fame in 1995, so he was always looking out for his father's legacy. |
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 7, 2013 17:24:24 GMT -5
I think Savage deserves his own induction, but his dad would probably work as a legacy induction that they do every few years. He wasn't inconsequential, even if he isn't by any means a major name, and maybe things would have gone better if he was inducted on his own.
I have a feeling asking for them as an entire family more or less killed it though, since Savage definitely deserved his own spot and sharing it with Angelo and Lanny was probably a deal breaker.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Sept 7, 2013 17:39:49 GMT -5
Anyone else take this title as Lanny giving Big E Langston permission to be the inductor?
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Post by RareTradU on Sept 7, 2013 17:44:39 GMT -5
I've said it from the beginning when I first heard Lanny saying that Randy wanted the family induction. Why the hell not? There are totally less qualified people in the Hall of Fame than Lanny Poffo and Angelo Poffo. If Randy wanted to go into the Hall of Fame with his family than dammit he deserves to have his wishes respected. After Randy left wrestling, family became a priority to him. I don't see how people don't understand that. Lanny's interview now is just saying do it if you want but you're doing it against Randy's wishes. It'll never happen alone. Enjoy watching the entire family get inducted into the Hall of Fame or move on with Savage because he's not going in solo and that's how he wanted it. Lanny, their mother (who validates Lanny's sentiment about Randy's wishes), and Randy's wife could all accept for the family. It would be perfect for the fans and the family.
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Post by edgestar on Sept 7, 2013 17:48:11 GMT -5
If WWE wants to induct Savage, they can go to his widow. But you just know Lanny will be giving negative interviews if that happened and some news company will pick up on it thinking it's worth the attention. Also with Savage's widow, I just fear the WWE Universe chanting Elizabeth at her unless Elizabeth gets inducted earlier that night. If Lanny was there, I think the risk of that would diminish. No, they're going to do this anyway. Having the fans at the Hall of Fame inductions has been nothing but horrIble. Security never enforces the dress codes or any sense of decorum, allowing the mouth-breathers to ruin whatever they want unchecked. I went to the Hall of Fame this year. I was under the impression there was a dress code, so I dressed accordingly. Also, before the show, Michael Cole said any inappropriate comments would result in people being removed from the arena.. Then Maria Menounos happened and as far as I know, no one was kicked out over the "boring" chants. |
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Post by BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED! on Sept 7, 2013 19:25:31 GMT -5
I've said it from the beginning when I first heard Lanny saying that Randy wanted the family induction. Why the hell not? There are totally less qualified people in the Hall of Fame than Lanny Poffo and Angelo Poffo. If Randy wanted to go into the Hall of Fame with his family than dammit he deserves to have his wishes respected. After Randy left wrestling, family became a priority to him. I don't see how people don't understand that. Lanny's interview now is just saying do it if you want but you're doing it against Randy's wishes. It'll never happen alone. Enjoy watching the entire family get inducted into the Hall of Fame or move on with Savage because he's not going in solo and that's how he wanted it. Lanny, their mother (who validates Lanny's sentiment about Randy's wishes), and Randy's wife could all accept for the family. It would be perfect for the fans and the family. BINGO!!! Koko B Ware and Pete Rose are in the WWE HOF for Christ's sake, so putting Lanny and Angelo in isn't going to kill its' credibility. |
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Sept 7, 2013 19:33:42 GMT -5
How dare someone be a family man and think about them! Instead, let's bash the only member of the wrestling family left because we knew what Savage wanted more than his own brother!
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 7, 2013 19:40:16 GMT -5
If WWE wants to induct Savage, they can go to his widow. But you just know Lanny will be giving negative interviews if that happened and some news company will pick up on it thinking it's worth the attention. Also with Savage's widow, I just fear the WWE Universe chanting Elizabeth at her unless Elizabeth gets inducted earlier that night. If Lanny was there, I think the risk of that would diminish. No, they're going to do this anyway. Having the fans at the Hall of Fame inductions has been nothing but horrIble. Security never enforces the dress codes or any sense of decorum, allowing the mouth-breathers to ruin whatever they want unchecked. Boo! Cena sucks! Boo! Borrrring! Borrrrring! Classy ceremony. |
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Sept 7, 2013 19:50:09 GMT -5
So... Poffo wants Big E to induct Randy Savage into the Hall of Fame?
Well sure, why not.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 7, 2013 20:16:56 GMT -5
Just so you know, this is not a new statement from Poffo. This is from an interview he gave with PWTorch around the end of last year. He has stated before that WWE are free to induct Randy without Lanny and the family's involvement. If WWE wants Lanny, Randy's mother, and Randy's widow involved, then they must induct Angelo and Lanny.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Sept 7, 2013 20:19:25 GMT -5
How dare someone be a family man and think about them! Instead, let's bash the only member of the wrestling family left because we knew what Savage wanted more than his own brother! We're wrestling fans, we always know better than those closest to the wrestler. |
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 7, 2013 21:32:48 GMT -5
I understand WWE wanting to put Macho Man in as his own induction but I have to ask, is is really that hard to just induct them all in per Randy's wishes?
He'd be going in either way so I don't see the issue here. Quite frankly, going against his wishes of having them all inducted simultaneously sounds selfish on the part of both WWE and the fans. The guy wanted his whole family inducted together, just do it.
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