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Post by Talent Name on Sept 19, 2013 23:31:02 GMT -5
I honestly want someone to try and defend this show, this is why people crap on TNA especially first time viewers or casual fans. You give shoddy finishes in Robbie E getting pinned twice, Gunner vs Hernandez, heck even EGO vs MEM was sub par, we had fail Sabin trying to be heel and it came as forced, the knockouts match was sloppy especially the finish and its sad that their are basically four knockouts left. This should have been the starting point instead we get six recaps instead of having an actual start to AJ vs Bully. It finally looks like Aces and Eights is going to collapse, the X division match was horrible as well. I was highly disappointed in this. The worst part though was Dixie trying to be heel and AJ be face sure she didn't create Styles, Styles did but she help fund him and her father's company is the one that helped keep TNA afloat for so long.
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Post by Glitch on Sept 19, 2013 23:47:25 GMT -5
I honestly want someone to try and defend this show, this is why people crap on TNA especially first time viewers or casual fans. You give shoddy finishes in Robbie E getting pinned twice, Gunner vs Hernandez, heck even EGO vs MEM was sub par, we had fail Sabin trying to be heel and it came as forced, the knockouts match was sloppy especially the finish and its sad that their are basically four knockouts left. This should have been the starting point instead we get six recaps instead of having an actual start to AJ vs Bully. It finally looks like Aces and Eights is going to collapse, the X division match was horrible as well. I was highly disappointed in this. The worst part though was Dixie trying to be heel and AJ be face sure she didn't create Styles, Styles did but she help fund him and her father's company is the one that helped keep TNA afloat for so long. Ego is getting pushed to the main event, A&8s will finally be over with, focus on the x-division, more Robbie E, and AJ in a very thinly veiled way hinting that the talented guys are gonna be pushed........but not exactly done in the best of way. Yeah, I'm kind only half defending this. I can't really say it was a great show, and I really didn't like the quick jobbing of Robbie E or Dixie turning off the lights. Personally this would have been better if AJ was saying it to Hogan. I would have loved to see that. On the bright side, this doesn't necessarily mean the next impacts will be just as crappy(Yeah, I know. I don't want more Dixie promos either). I dunno, at least it wasn't the worst Impact ever(I'll take this over the Immortal pay off after the ppv).
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Post by jimmyjames on Sept 20, 2013 1:13:13 GMT -5
This show was so much wasted potential. The KO's championship match was doing alright, even though it should have been at the top of the second hour, until the last minute. I just want to know why they had to do that crap immediately after ODB win. It's like they're saying, hey you know that Knockout's Championship match that just occurred, well forget that shit, let's focus on something no one cares about. The six man main event was underwhelming, and there is no way it should have been. At least A&8s finally grew a pair and stood up to Bully Ray, especially Knux, bringing it on the mic. It's like TNA finally let him do something, just as the group is ending.
The highlights of the show was Mickie and that outfit, Velvet in that dress, and Slavegirl Brooke and her ASS.
Once again, why the heck is Reality Show Jessie still employed by TNA is beyond me.
Fail Sabin better be on his knees every night with Velvet, because Dixie loving her is the only reason he has a job in TNa, let alone in the spotlight. No charisma (although the crap storylines really don't help), can't talk, and no one cares a flip about him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 5:09:55 GMT -5
I'm still laughing about AJ talking about how he tried for all of those years to provide an alternative for the fans and then they proceed to rip off the Punk angle mixed with the current WWE angle.
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Post by Crusty Ruffles on Sept 20, 2013 5:44:44 GMT -5
I just watched the Dixie/AJ segment on TNA's YouTube channel. Wow. That may be up there with the most cringeworthy things I've ever seen in terms of performance, content, and....everything. How does this sell one ticket? What could the end game possibly be? Isn't AJ about to have a world title match? But isn't the world champion now on the outs with his stable and teasing a feud with them? So you've now spent time building a guy back up to a title shot that you're now basically ignoring because he's in a pissing match with the owner of the company over some kind of worked shoot nonsense that flew over a lot of people's heads while the champion is off doing something completely different and does not seem concerned at all by the man that just tore through huge parts of the roster to get another title shot and is probably next in line for the TNA Hall of Fame. You took your world champion and your number one contender, who have a match in about a month's time, and set them off in completely opposite directions to build toward a PPV.
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Post by jimmyjames on Sept 20, 2013 6:06:12 GMT -5
Claire Lynch thinks Dixie's acting sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 7:42:01 GMT -5
No "Hey Colt Cabana, how ya doin'?"
If you're going to rip off the whole storyline, why not pay attention to details?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 9:00:08 GMT -5
I hate worked shoots. They never work. Even Punk's shoot, even though it made him a star, really didn't do much from a business standpoint. It is counter-productive and insulting because you tell your audience that everything else on the show is fake but the "shoot" is real, thereby eliminating the illusion you are going for.
On that note, I thought Styles' promo was better than AJ Lee's, which is baffling because Lee's was praised for the most part while Styles' is being mocked. If you are going to break the fourth wall, then at least have a legitimate gripe. Punk had a legitimate gripe. Styles has been pushed to the side every time TNA signed a new WWE star, so yes, he did have a legitimate gripe. So while the promo content itself is bad for business, at least it made sense from that perspective. Even Dixie's rebuttal made sense because it justified, in her eyes, why she would always value the ex-WWE stars instead of Styles and the other existing talent. Again, not saying I agree with Dixie turning heel (or even being an on-screen character), but from that aspect, it at least has some semblance of logic behind it. AJ Lee's promo was hypocritical and terrible, but again, she was generally praised for it (being a cute female with ass hugging shorts might have been part of the reason though).
In the end, TNA had a pretty easy build-up for Styles/Bully, and so far, they have ignored it. I'm guessing they will have Dixie side with Bully, and possibly re-enact MITB 2011 with Styles winning the title and then bailing. I have said before, I think TNA should copy that storyline. WWE messed it up so much by having Punk come back in one week that it ruined a lot of its potential. Not saying TNA would do much better with it, but there are places they could go with it that WWE didn't, which would make it fresh.
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Post by JTG Fan on Sept 20, 2013 9:10:55 GMT -5
Dixie Carter ✔ @tnadixie So, #AskDixie how she slept last night...better than I remember in a long time. Wonder why??
She got laid?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 10:00:37 GMT -5
Dixie Carter ✔ @tnadixie So, #AskDixie how she slept last night...better than I remember in a long time. Wonder why?? She got laid? Will Dixie ever learn? She's just setting herself up for the Twitter brigade with an open-ended tweet such as this; not that they needed any extra motivation.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Sept 20, 2013 11:06:05 GMT -5
I hate worked shoots. They never work. Even Punk's shoot, even though it made him a star, really didn't do much from a business standpoint. It is counter-productive and insulting because you tell your audience that everything else on the show is fake but the "shoot" is real, thereby eliminating the illusion you are going for. On that note, I thought Styles' promo was better than AJ Lee's, which is baffling because Lee's was praised for the most part while Styles' is being mocked. If you are going to break the fourth wall, then at least have a legitimate gripe. Punk had a legitimate gripe. Styles has been pushed to the side every time TNA signed a new WWE star, so yes, he did have a legitimate gripe. So while the promo content itself is bad for business, at least it made sense from that perspective. Even Dixie's rebuttal made sense because it justified, in her eyes, why she would always value the ex-WWE stars instead of Styles and the other existing talent. Again, not saying I agree with Dixie turning heel (or even being an on-screen character), but from that aspect, it at least has some semblance of logic behind it. AJ Lee's promo was hypocritical and terrible, but again, she was generally praised for it (being a cute female with ass hugging shorts might have been part of the reason though). In the end, TNA had a pretty easy build-up for Styles/Bully, and so far, they have ignored it. I'm guessing they will have Dixie side with Bully, and possibly re-enact MITB 2011 with Styles winning the title and then bailing. I have said before, I think TNA should copy that storyline. WWE messed it up so much by having Punk come back in one week that it ruined a lot of its potential. Not saying TNA would do much better with it, but there are places they could go with it that WWE didn't, which would make it fresh. Yeah, worked shoots are definitely hit or miss(unfortunately, closer to the latter), mainly because of the booking afterwards, which ended up being the problem with Punk's. As good as it was, they botched it after they injected HHH/Nash into the mix & while Styles' wasn't that good(it also wasn't bad), it depends if they book it well, if not, it'll flop. Also, Punk's "Pipebomb" wasn't the first worked shoot promo in wrestling history & Styles' last night won't be the last, so not every one should always be compared to his. Plus, I also agree that AJ Lee's wasn't as good as others on here, it was pretty good, but not a great one.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 20, 2013 11:46:17 GMT -5
Having watched that on Youtube just now.. good lord that was shit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 11:59:53 GMT -5
I hate worked shoots. They never work. Even Punk's shoot, even though it made him a star, really didn't do much from a business standpoint. It is counter-productive and insulting because you tell your audience that everything else on the show is fake but the "shoot" is real, thereby eliminating the illusion you are going for. On that note, I thought Styles' promo was better than AJ Lee's, which is baffling because Lee's was praised for the most part while Styles' is being mocked. If you are going to break the fourth wall, then at least have a legitimate gripe. Punk had a legitimate gripe. Styles has been pushed to the side every time TNA signed a new WWE star, so yes, he did have a legitimate gripe. So while the promo content itself is bad for business, at least it made sense from that perspective. Even Dixie's rebuttal made sense because it justified, in her eyes, why she would always value the ex-WWE stars instead of Styles and the other existing talent. Again, not saying I agree with Dixie turning heel (or even being an on-screen character), but from that aspect, it at least has some semblance of logic behind it. AJ Lee's promo was hypocritical and terrible, but again, she was generally praised for it (being a cute female with ass hugging shorts might have been part of the reason though). In the end, TNA had a pretty easy build-up for Styles/Bully, and so far, they have ignored it. I'm guessing they will have Dixie side with Bully, and possibly re-enact MITB 2011 with Styles winning the title and then bailing. I have said before, I think TNA should copy that storyline. WWE messed it up so much by having Punk come back in one week that it ruined a lot of its potential. Not saying TNA would do much better with it, but there are places they could go with it that WWE didn't, which would make it fresh. I think there is a time and a place for a worked shoot. I think the CM Punk thing lost a bit of its luster now that everyone knows the end result but I still think that to be an absolutely essential promo in the pantheon of WWE promos. The followup stunk but that was a stellar moment. I just don't see TNA coming even close with this. I don't think there's anything wrong with TNA doing things similar to WWE but they don't typically do it with even a modicum of the same polish as WWE, and they don't time these moves very well so it looks like blatant plagiarism. Remember when Bret Hart returned to WWE? Then TNA reenacted the Montreal Screwjob? Remember when Sin Cara debuted? Then Sangriento happened? Remember when Nexus debuted? Then TNA did an ECW invasion? Now WWE doing a big angle with shoot elements about a small wrestler that the adminstration doesn't think should be the flagship of the company and here we are in TNA going through the same thing. These can't be coincidences. Like I said I don't mind TNA taking elements of WWE, it's hard for any company not to step on familiar territory but they're just inviting viewers to make comparisons between the two and decide they're better off watching WWE where they seem to know what they're doing. I just can't be optimistic about TNA doing with this what WWE couldn't. They never pull off worked shoots because they always have this self congratulatory attitude about it like they're saying " we can't even believe we're doing this. This is so dangerous".
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 20, 2013 12:21:05 GMT -5
I really want to see Knox and team disappointing sons to triple powerbomb bubba and become a full on shield rip off
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Sept 20, 2013 15:34:31 GMT -5
"A little bit better than a bigger fish" = B+ player
That was a terrible promo. Impact Wrestling is doomed. Yeesh. This is like WCW 2000 all over again.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Sept 20, 2013 18:02:15 GMT -5
Last night's show sucked a lot but I have to say I'm surprised at the negative (well not really it is the TNA section) reaction to Dixie/AJ's promo. Everything else on the show was a mess but I actually liked the end promo. I'm used to being completely out of touch with what the average casual viewer wants but I'm not used to being so out of touch with what the IWC wants.
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Post by Talent Name on Sept 20, 2013 18:09:41 GMT -5
Last night's show sucked a lot but I have to say I'm surprised at the negative (well not really it is the TNA section) reaction to Dixie/AJ's promo. Everything else on the show was a mess but I actually liked the end promo. I'm used to being completely out of touch with what the average casual viewer wants but I'm not used to being so out of touch with what the IWC wants. Its not just here but youtube as well, its kind of unfair to just point out us as a representation. I showed my friend who knows nothing about wrestling that promo and he was like this sucks ass no wonder I don't watch. The IWC will gladly point out the faults in a program, Dixie herself said she doesn't really want to be a focal point or on screen character either. The delivery was off as well I have seen some horrible promos and this is up there with some of the worst
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Sept 20, 2013 19:05:47 GMT -5
Last night's show sucked a lot but I have to say I'm surprised at the negative (well not really it is the TNA section) reaction to Dixie/AJ's promo. Everything else on the show was a mess but I actually liked the end promo. I'm used to being completely out of touch with what the average casual viewer wants but I'm not used to being so out of touch with what the IWC wants. I just want good storylines and quality wrestling and good charaacters and promos. If it happens to come from a worked shoot, then that's great, but I don't want every storyline to be with a bunch of "it's a shoot brother, this guy backstage who you never see sucks, this guy's being held down by management" overtones.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 20:08:23 GMT -5
I'm not entirely sure what good comes from Dixie telling AJ he doesn't wrestle five star matches anymore... She's the one who pays him to wrestle. It's her show that he's a part of.
Also, the only good thing to come out of that whole mess of a shoot was that amazing amazing fan in the crowd right after AJ said that nobody backstage respects Dixie.
I need a GIF of that guy.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Sept 20, 2013 20:15:12 GMT -5
Last night's show sucked a lot but I have to say I'm surprised at the negative (well not really it is the TNA section) reaction to Dixie/AJ's promo. Everything else on the show was a mess but I actually liked the end promo. I'm used to being completely out of touch with what the average casual viewer wants but I'm not used to being so out of touch with what the IWC wants. Its not just here but youtube as well, its kind of unfair to just point out us as a representation. I showed my friend who knows nothing about wrestling that promo and he was like this sucks ass no wonder I don't watch. The IWC will gladly point out the faults in a program, Dixie herself said she doesn't really want to be a focal point or on screen character either. The delivery was off as well I have seen some horrible promos and this is up there with some of the worst I didn't say it was just you guys, I said it was the IWC as a whole - clearly I'm well out of touch with what everyone else wants because I liked the promo. I especially liked the cutting of the lights at the end, thought it was a very good way to end the show. It could be better if both AJ and Dixie were better on the mic but they both did a good enough job (in my opinion) for me to enjoy the segment.
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