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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Sept 20, 2013 20:16:00 GMT -5
Last night's show sucked a lot but I have to say I'm surprised at the negative (well not really it is the TNA section) reaction to Dixie/AJ's promo. Everything else on the show was a mess but I actually liked the end promo. I'm used to being completely out of touch with what the average casual viewer wants but I'm not used to being so out of touch with what the IWC wants. I just want good storylines and quality wrestling and good charaacters and promos. If it happens to come from a worked shoot, then that's great, but I don't want every storyline to be with a bunch of "it's a shoot brother, this guy backstage who you never see sucks, this guy's being held down by management" overtones. Me neither (were you implying I suggested that or just making a general point?) but it works for me in the context of this storyline. |
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Post by cabbageboy on Sept 20, 2013 22:27:47 GMT -5
What exactly is the card at BFG at this point? Aces and Eights have fallen apart so hard that I can't even buy them in a blow off with the MEM. It doesn't help that the guys who have been VP (D'Lo, Anderson) have both been beaten up and left for dead. Being VP of the Aces and Eights is like being the drummer for Spinal Tap. Maybe Doc did the right thing when he turned in his cut?
Anyway, the card? Bully vs. AJ, which has zero build now that they are doing this Dixie crap. Maybe Jeff Hardy vs. either Manik or Sabin for X title. Tag titles are Gunner/Storm vs. Chavo/Hernandez (bleh). Some sort of MEM vs. EGO deal I guess. No idea where Aries factors into the PPV.
But yeah, the truly haunting aspect of this week's show is that TNA is now self aware of their own incompetence. For years I couldn't help but wonder if TNA knew how goofy their show was, since everyone sold it like it was the greatest thing ever. Now we know they know the show sucks....and it kinda echoes WCW in 2000.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Sept 20, 2013 23:01:11 GMT -5
Now we know they know the show sucks....and it kinda echoes WCW in 2000. It seems like a self fulfilling prophecy... We know the show sucked, so they talked about how the show sucks, so why watch the show if we know they know that the show sucks? |
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Post by jimmyjames on Sept 21, 2013 1:44:59 GMT -5
I think a big part of the problem of the promo was necessarily the content on the promos, although they both could have been better, but the who gave them. The reason Punk's promo worked wasn't just what he was saying, but how he delivered it. It was believable. AJ's wasn't. IT was just, blah. There really didn't seem to be any fire to it, no emotion. It seemed liked it was rehearsing a script. The sad part is that in terms of what was said, Dixie's was the better promo. The problem was, Dixie was the one saying it. Her should have been the best, the mid promo swerve into quasi-heel Dixie, calling out AJ. It should have worked, but Dixie is so wooden, bland and bad acting, that when she actually tried to show emotion, the promo got worst. Just wasted potential all around.
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Post by cabbageboy on Sept 21, 2013 10:10:34 GMT -5
Content wise AJ's promo was foolish. So basically AJ's glory days of TNA were the June-October 2002 time period before the Carters bought out Jerry Jarrett? That's laughable. With Dixie's promo there was an echo of the Daniel Bryan B+ bit, but the problem is that Styles HAS more or less been a B+ for the past decade in TNA, whereas Bryan's fate has yet to be fully determined. Dixie never really addressed anything AJ said if you think about it, but she did skewer him in a very truthful way.
As I said, the entire segment convinced me the company has been inept for an entire decade and that AJ Styles is a minor league player.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 21, 2013 13:16:19 GMT -5
Aj has been tna champ multiple times and was the main
Guy for years
This year he played a selfish jerk and said he didn't need fans or anybody
This is a stupid scenario
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Post by Crusty Ruffles on Sept 22, 2013 4:14:32 GMT -5
Another thing I don't get is how uber good guy AJ Styles is still the good guy by saying TNA is a shithole, but he'll stay if he can hold them up for a bunch of money. If he can't, he's leaving.
Huh?
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Post by jimmyjames on Sept 22, 2013 6:19:52 GMT -5
Not to mention AJ running down TNA and the Carters, yet he still working there and took their money, instead of going to, "any pond".
We'll also ignore that last year, he was so close to and best friends with Dixie, yet now he hates her and in fact has always never had any respect for her and never liked her.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 22, 2013 16:11:12 GMT -5
The way Dixie shut down his argument was just genius.
AJ just looks like an ungrateful pos whiner
Dixie looks like a scorned boss who gave aj tons of chances his friends never got. And aj didn'r make money but she pulled him out of the trailer park anyways.
Just bleh.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Sept 22, 2013 18:19:10 GMT -5
Actually, the more I've thought about this show, the more that I have to make the argument that this was, without exaggeration, the worst Impact of the year. Say what you will be about bad Impact shows but at the very least, they provide some kind of comedic value once they enter in the "so bad it's good" territory. This show was just...shit. There was not a single redeeming thing about it. It really did feel like a show put on by a dying company.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Sept 23, 2013 0:43:15 GMT -5
And to think that we can't talk about this on LOLTNA anymore.
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Post by Johnny D on Sept 25, 2013 3:31:54 GMT -5
Whole show was pretty terrible, think some of us were getting slight delusions of grandeur when Russo left. The less said about the last segment the better, neither Dixie or AJ looked good from it.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Sept 25, 2013 19:09:17 GMT -5
Actually, the more I've thought about this show, the more that I have to make the argument that this was, without exaggeration, the worst Impact of the year. Say what you will be about bad Impact shows but at the very least, they provide some kind of comedic value once they enter in the "so bad it's good" territory. This show was just...shit. There was not a single redeeming thing about it. It really did feel like a show put on by a dying company. I thought the EGO/MEM 6 man tag was good, the KO Title match was solid & that Knux's promo on Bully was surprisingly pretty good...other than those things, yeah, not exactly the best episode, so to speak. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 9:47:08 GMT -5
Just think, one would have to assume that tonight Dixie and AJ will have live microphones. This is going to be wacky for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 10:09:53 GMT -5
Actually, the more I've thought about this show, the more that I have to make the argument that this was, without exaggeration, the worst Impact of the year. Say what you will be about bad Impact shows but at the very least, they provide some kind of comedic value once they enter in the "so bad it's good" territory. This show was just...shit. There was not a single redeeming thing about it. It really did feel like a show put on by a dying company. I thought the EGO/MEM 6 man tag was good, the KO Title match was solid & that Knux's promo on Bully was surprisingly pretty good...other than those things, yeah, not exactly the best episode, so to speak. To be fair, it was the second half of a double taping, and the first taping had Styles/Aries, Magnus/Roode, Bully/Anderson, and Styles/Magnus on it. Taping two shows in one night usually hurts the quality of the 2nd show (crowd is tired, the main stories usually happen on the live portion, etc). I'm not sure where the "it seemed like a dying company" stuff is coming from. Because they did a worked shoot? In that case, get the WWE's coffin ready. |
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Sept 26, 2013 13:41:32 GMT -5
I thought the EGO/MEM 6 man tag was good, the KO Title match was solid & that Knux's promo on Bully was surprisingly pretty good...other than those things, yeah, not exactly the best episode, so to speak. To be fair, it was the second half of a double taping, and the first taping had Styles/Aries, Magnus/Roode, Bully/Anderson, and Styles/Magnus on it. Taping two shows in one night usually hurts the quality of the 2nd show (crowd is tired, the main stories usually happen on the live portion, etc). I'm not sure where the "it seemed like a dying company" stuff is coming from. Because they did a worked shoot? In that case, get the WWE's coffin ready. The "it seemed like a dying company" stuff(which I wasn't implying, since I don't buy it like some people around the internetz) mostly comes from all the news reports that bring up TNA having to release people because they can't pay them or possibly going off the road, so whenever there's an Impact that isn't good(which again, is whatever people's opinion's are), some people are gonna bring up the 'TNA is dying/done', 'LOLTNA', etc. stuff. Plus I agree with your 1st point, in most of the cases since they've gone on the road, the 2nd half has been worse than the 1st part, which is usually good-great. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 26, 2013 13:43:36 GMT -5
The segment was awful. Full of verbal flubs and both of them sounded like two rednecks arguing over a stolen pick up truck on Judge Judy
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 14:03:12 GMT -5
To be fair, it was the second half of a double taping, and the first taping had Styles/Aries, Magnus/Roode, Bully/Anderson, and Styles/Magnus on it. Taping two shows in one night usually hurts the quality of the 2nd show (crowd is tired, the main stories usually happen on the live portion, etc). I'm not sure where the "it seemed like a dying company" stuff is coming from. Because they did a worked shoot? In that case, get the WWE's coffin ready. The "it seemed like a dying company" stuff(which I wasn't implying, since I don't buy it like some people around the internetz) mostly comes from all the news reports that bring up TNA having to release people because they can't pay them or possibly going off the road, so whenever there's an Impact that isn't good(which again, is whatever people's opinion's are), some people are gonna bring up the 'TNA is dying/done', 'LOLTNA', etc. stuff. Plus I agree with your 1st point, in most of the cases since they've gone on the road, the 2nd half has been worse than the 1st part, which is usually good-great. Yeah I wasn't referencing you when talking about the dying company stuff, but the other posters who said it. Yes, the company is having financial issues due to added road expenses, but how that relates to a worked shoot on TV is where I am lost on this. The WWE is doing worked shoots far worse because they are undermining their own talent in the process (mentioning Bryan is small/not a draw, Edge didn't draw money, the Diva reality show females are not wrestlers even though they wrestle, etc, etc). I'm just not understanding why the WWE gets a pass for using worked shoots while TNA is dying because of using worked shoots. Worked shoots in any company are stupid, but one is being universally praised for reasons beyond my comprehension. Maybe I'm too old for the WWE demographic and the teens and 20-somethings who watch the WWE still think it's cool to "break script", while TNA may cater to an older audience that rolls their eyes at it, I don't know. It's just weird to me. |
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