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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 9, 2013 21:30:52 GMT -5
How are tag matches boring, but singles matches aren't? It's the same formula. Intro Shine Cutoff/heat Hope Spot Aggressive Heat Comeback Finish What I came in here to say. In fact, I would think tag matches are LESS boring because there is more people in them. Instead of trying to paint a picture with two colors, now you get to use four.
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Post by mrjl on Oct 10, 2013 5:31:55 GMT -5
No matter how many times you re-invent the wheel, it's still a wheel. What innovations you're looking for from wrestling? We could go the way of the Adamle specials where they make slight changes to matches or they can book matches differently. Im not asking to reinvent the wheel, just make things less predicatable. Theres nothing wrong with having people dragged to other corners for their side of the corner, someone making a dash to their corner or rolling out of harms way for the tag. If they must do the hot tag, stop with the face getting the tag first then the heel before the newly tagged in heel runs in to eat some offence from the fresh face. It blows my mind that you are fine with the wrestling formula being the exact same. Its the main reason I cant watch WWE from start to finish. If people do not demand more, they are going to make millions without putting as much effort. Look at how Hulk Hogan's act looked like it would never end until they were forced to do something else. This is not an unstaged sport where great technique is acceptable to repeat, this is a form of staged entertainment that has been going on for decades and plans to go on for decades more. Surely the seasoned bookers can challenge themselves to try something else instead of playing it safe? if you're happy with what is put out why in the world would you demand more?
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Post by bootytea on Oct 10, 2013 9:51:05 GMT -5
We could go the way of the Adamle specials where they make slight changes to matches or they can book matches differently. Im not asking to reinvent the wheel, just make things less predicatable. Theres nothing wrong with having people dragged to other corners for their side of the corner, someone making a dash to their corner or rolling out of harms way for the tag. If they must do the hot tag, stop with the face getting the tag first then the heel before the newly tagged in heel runs in to eat some offence from the fresh face. It blows my mind that you are fine with the wrestling formula being the exact same. Its the main reason I cant watch WWE from start to finish. If people do not demand more, they are going to make millions without putting as much effort. Look at how Hulk Hogan's act looked like it would never end until they were forced to do something else. This is not an unstaged sport where great technique is acceptable to repeat, this is a form of staged entertainment that has been going on for decades and plans to go on for decades more. Surely the seasoned bookers can challenge themselves to try something else instead of playing it safe? First time I heard someone liking the Adamle specials. Weird. I have been watching wrestling longer than most of the posters here been alive. I seen all of the tricks, all the storylines, and all of the finishes. But I still watch with excitement. All wrestling moves are just variations of classic moves. Chavo Guerrero Sr used to do moonsaults before the Great Muta. Ricky Morton used to do hurricaranas before Scott Steiner. The latter put their own twist on the moves to make it stand out. I'm not advocating WWE half ass and not try to be exciting. But the next, great idea is really just a new twist on a old standard. I am not asking for new moves, just for things to be changed up a little bit. Things like having sequences is something I feel needs to go or done seldomly. Randy Orton, John Cena, Kofi Kingston and so on do the same "adrenaline filled" sequences and get the same reaction. Im just asking for matches not to be so easy to call ahead of time. Its not about flash for me, but seeing peopld challenge themselves. Mike Adamle was a fun trainwreck to watch. He is the most memorable general manager. :-P We could go the way of the Adamle specials where they make slight changes to matches or they can book matches differently. Im not asking to reinvent the wheel, just make things less predicatable. Theres nothing wrong with having people dragged to other corners for their side of the corner, someone making a dash to their corner or rolling out of harms way for the tag. If they must do the hot tag, stop with the face getting the tag first then the heel before the newly tagged in heel runs in to eat some offence from the fresh face. It blows my mind that you are fine with the wrestling formula being the exact same. Its the main reason I cant watch WWE from start to finish. If people do not demand more, they are going to make millions without putting as much effort. Look at how Hulk Hogan's act looked like it would never end until they were forced to do something else. This is not an unstaged sport where great technique is acceptable to repeat, this is a form of staged entertainment that has been going on for decades and plans to go on for decades more. Surely the seasoned bookers can challenge themselves to try something else instead of playing it safe? if you're happy with what is put out why in the world would you demand more? I can tell that the WWE is half assing and not using their talent to the best of their abilities. If most people are fine with that, all the power to them, but Ill be in the background whining until they do their best! Maybe I have overly high standards or something. We could go the way of the Adamle specials where they make slight changes to matches or they can book matches differently. Im not asking to reinvent the wheel, just make things less predicatable. Theres nothing wrong with having people dragged to other corners for their side of the corner, someone making a dash to their corner or rolling out of harms way for the tag. If they must do the hot tag, stop with the face getting the tag first then the heel before the newly tagged in heel runs in to eat some offence from the fresh face. It blows my mind that you are fine with the wrestling formula being the exact same. Its the main reason I cant watch WWE from start to finish. If people do not demand more, they are going to make millions without putting as much effort. Look at how Hulk Hogan's act looked like it would never end until they were forced to do something else. This is not an unstaged sport where great technique is acceptable to repeat, this is a form of staged entertainment that has been going on for decades and plans to go on for decades more. Surely the seasoned bookers can challenge themselves to try something else instead of playing it safe? The thing is, wrestling, as it is an staged sport, is in reality a dramatic presentation. Every movie, show, or play you see, and every book you read is a variation on the same theme, depending on genre. It's put on the wrestlers and producers to tell an intriguing story within the time allotted. And when you only have 5-7 minutes, there's not a lot of ways to really deviate from the standard seven stage format of a match. Granted, there are guys like Kenny Omega and Paul London who want to deconstruct the idea of that seven stage format, but that's the main reason they left WWE, because the machine won't change what works. So for now, I will watch shows that think like Kenny Omega and Paul London and skim through RAW once in a while until they switch it up. :-)
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