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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 3:54:30 GMT -5
I can say this much - I never want to see Daniel Bryan and Randy Orton feud ever again. The matches are good but my god the promo's between them have sucked.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 3:55:29 GMT -5
I've been done with the angle for a few weeks now since they kept waiting to put the title on him. I honestly don't care who wins at HIAC now. It's just a massive clusterf*** at this point. Well played, WWE. This. And I saw it all coming from a mile away.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 22, 2013 4:11:07 GMT -5
If DB ends this storyline in a semi-main event position, he'd have done well. With the title or not, he was never going to be the #1 guy. Fundamentally HHH and Steph are correct. He's a B+ player and that's a good thing for him. He can be the fan favourite who always delivers a good match while not having the pressures of being the top guy like Cena has. Keeping him as the best-of-the-rest also allows him to keep his character traits which make him appealing. If he was #1 he'd be watered down for kid-appeal like Cena has been.
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Post by kingbookermark on Oct 22, 2013 4:16:02 GMT -5
I am in the more interested minority.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 4:18:42 GMT -5
WWE hasn't booked this perfectly, but they've done a decent job. I am curious to know though, how would you guys who don't like the angle have booked things?
Daniel Bryan wins the title at SummerSlam....then what?
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Oct 22, 2013 4:33:03 GMT -5
What could the next step be with Bryan? He's done the standard short hair look. He's has short hair with beard, and long hair with beard. Maybe bald Bryan? Mohawk Bryan? Amish beard? Fu Manchu stache? Mutton chops? Maybe he needs long tights. Maybe a flashier looking robe.
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Post by thirteen3 on Oct 22, 2013 4:39:02 GMT -5
Eh, the real new star is Cody Rhodes. He actually has permission to be over.
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Post by Abdullah on Oct 22, 2013 6:56:46 GMT -5
How much more interesting is Punk/Heyman or Cesaro busting out the Big Swing every week now? The real issue is that WWE is lazy and has no problem booking the same show, with the slightest variations, for months on end.
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Post by Juice on Oct 22, 2013 7:03:08 GMT -5
It went from a must see angle to whatever it is now. I haven't even watched the last month. More than something here or there. The Rhodes storyline is really the only thing still worth watching. I have hated the Big Show since he returned from "retirement". He's overrated and for some reason WWE has been on his dick since he resigned way back then (2008? or something). I don't even buy him as a knockout puncher. Just f*** the Big Show so much.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 22, 2013 7:08:08 GMT -5
Big Show has been a pile of shit right from the start of the DB push. This storyline didn't need him. If they HAD to use the "broke wrestler being exploited" then I'd rather they had used someone else for the role. Preferably someone who hasn't already had 389 pushes.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 22, 2013 7:32:52 GMT -5
Bryan is my favourite wrestler so my interest hasn't waned but my interest on this shitty storyline has. I have to agree with Hit Girl, Big Show has no damn reason to be in this story.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 11:58:00 GMT -5
Ugh, they're really having Bryan joust with Hunner on the mic? Bryan having to do long promos and spar with someone else was always going to expose his biggest weakness.
It's even worse when he's got to do it against a guy who seems to have free reign to say what he wants regardless of how it makes anyone else look. That's why I said a while ago, if you wanna guy you can do that to, let Punk spar with Hunner on the mic.
At the very least, Punk's snark and general dickiness will cancel out Hunner's inability to not be the smartest/coolest guy in the room and that shit would be contained in one feud. I understand people didn't want Bryan to take a backseat but as it is now, he's already taking one between the Big Show and Hunner nonsense.
It's the lesser of two evils: Hunner and Punk taking potshots at each other or Hunner (and everyone else it seems) taking potshots at Bryan?
To answer the topic question: Yes. It has. I mean, Sleepy Hollow is on break and I didn't even care to follow the Raw thread, let alone watch Raw.
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Post by Essential1 on Oct 22, 2013 20:46:37 GMT -5
He's been stale since Team Hell No and has been overrated for years. This angle shows everyone exactly what he brings to the table at this level. He's good in the ring, but alot of guys back in the day just like him had talent but were not forced down peoples throats. This is almost Lex Luger American Hero bad.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Oct 22, 2013 20:54:40 GMT -5
He should appear at Hell in The Cell as Dracula Bryan, for the Halloweeniness.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 22, 2013 20:58:00 GMT -5
He's been stale since Team Hell No and has been overrated for years. This angle shows everyone exactly what he brings to the table at this level. He's good in the ring, but alot of guys back in the day just like him had talent but were not forced down peoples throats. This is almost Lex Luger American Hero bad. Those things may or may not be true. But wereWWE intentionally shitting on Lex Luger and trying to hammer it into our heads that he was stale and overrated? Bryan is over, WWE should just let him be over.
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Post by mizerable on Oct 22, 2013 21:28:49 GMT -5
I can say this much - I never want to see Daniel Bryan and Randy Orton feud ever again. The matches are good but my god the promo's between them have sucked. What is it with Orton? First Cena. Then Triple H. Then Christian. The guy has the ability to make any feud want you to hope that they never encounter each other again. I've been done with the angle for a few weeks now since they kept waiting to put the title on him. I honestly don't care who wins at HIAC now. It's just a massive clusterf*** at this point. Well played, WWE. This. And I saw it all coming from a mile away. As did I. I don't ever recall WWE starting an angle shitty and it growing to be good. If it's shit at the beginning, it's shit till the end.
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 22, 2013 22:38:18 GMT -5
I'm really looking forward to how things shape up during the build to WrestleMania, but I'm still fairly interested right now. When you consider what Autumn is usually like for WWE, the fact they're at least trying something is amazing.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Oct 22, 2013 23:55:38 GMT -5
WWE hasn't booked this perfectly, but they've done a decent job. I am curious to know though, how would you guys who don't like the angle have booked things? Daniel Bryan wins the title at SummerSlam....then what? He defends it for at least a few months while HHH tries to get the belt off him in a more subtle manner. Not a whole lot would change. Bryan has the great matches he's been having, but as champ. The screwjob angle is fine with me. I just think they did it too soon. This weekend would've been a better time for it. Cell matches are great places for screwjobs. And no Big Show storyline. It's been ruining everything.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 23, 2013 0:11:55 GMT -5
My interest in everyone wanes eventually. It's happened with the Wyatts aswell. WWE have a bad habit of repetition in recent years and seeing guys do the same thing and cut the same promos over and over and over again. Welcome to the microwave society. WWE brings in something new -- Fandango, Wyatts, DBry's push, whatever -- and the IWC reaction is "This is new, this is great." A month later if it has not progressed or only progressed marginally and it's "I'm so ready for this to be over with. Please end it." The Wyatt thing is obviously moving along (see Smackdown or read the spoilers). Maybe it got drawn out a bit more because of Wyatt being sidelined by injury, but many have given up on it. The Best for Business/Authority thing is only a few months old but you'd think from a lot of the reactions it has been going on for 11 years. You couldn't do an angle like Hogan-Andre these days, playing out over months and months, or the Million Dollar Champion, or Honky Tonk holding the IC championship forever via repeated DQs or Evolution slowly evolving and then devolving, or even something like Jericho-HBK from just a few years ago ... because today's audience doesn't have the patience. It's "I want what I want and I want it now." That's too bad, IMO. The best angles have always needed time to develop. Bryan doesn't get his payoff in a month's time and it's like "forget it, I've been betrayed." People say they want midcarders to have characters and programs and something like the Wyatts or The Shield comes along and within a couple of months you start seeing "it's time to move on."
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Post by kidglov3s on Oct 23, 2013 0:14:15 GMT -5
My interest in everyone wanes eventually. It's happened with the Wyatts aswell. WWE have a bad habit of repetition in recent years and seeing guys do the same thing and cut the same promos over and over and over again. Welcome to the microwave society. WWE brings in something new -- Fandango, Wyatts, DBry's push, whatever -- and the IWC reaction is "This is new, this is great." A month later if it has not progressed or only progressed marginally and it's "I'm so ready for this to be over with. Please end it." The Wyatt thing is obviously moving along (see Smackdown or read the spoilers). Maybe it got drawn out a bit more because of Wyatt being sidelined by injury, but many have given up on it. The Best for Business/Authority thing is only a few months old but you'd think from a lot of the reactions it has been going on for 11 years. You couldn't do an angle like Hogan-Andre these days, playing out over months and months, or the Million Dollar Champion, or Honky Tonk holding the IC championship forever via repeated DQs or Evolution slowly evolving and then devolving, or even something like Jericho-HBK from just a few years ago ... because today's audience doesn't have the patience. It's "I want what I want and I want it now." That's too bad, IMO. The best angles have always needed time to develop. Bryan doesn't get his payoff in a month's time and it's like "forget it, I've been betrayed." People say they want midcarders to have characters and programs and something like the Wyatts or The Shield comes along and within a couple of months you start seeing "it's time to move on." I don't think that's necessarily the case. I think the backlash is against angles that don't evolve. That are static, essentially the same thing over and over and over again without meaningful progression or developments. Like CM Punk and Paul Heyman has essentially been a continuous ongoing storyline for over a year now, and arena fans are still into that, and still into Bryan or that matter. I think that there are criticisms of this or that particular angle doesn't mean that people are incapable of enjoying extended storylines.
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