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Post by DASH 243✅ on Nov 6, 2013 11:01:15 GMT -5
One of these days I'm going to open a thread like this and it will have actually been the pastor. He has said in the past that's where he took his name from
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 11:01:40 GMT -5
I mean, he, of all people, knows a ton about steroids. I'd believe him just because he did steroids for decades.
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Post by Crimson on Nov 6, 2013 13:18:30 GMT -5
Yeah he sounds like an absolute tool. I guess there was no such thing as jobber to the stars during tenure.
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Post by amaron on Nov 6, 2013 13:27:36 GMT -5
Didn't Bret Hart go 15+ with the 1-2-3 Kid a bunch of years back?
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Nov 6, 2013 13:51:28 GMT -5
I agree with him on Cody lol. No "it factor" at all. Some guys OOZE charisma. Its like a visual aura. Cody is as bland as a paper bag, no matter how good of a gimmick they come up with for him.
Kofi is a good hand in the ring. If they pushed him, I think he could be something, but hes just a slightly more charismatic Shelton Benjamin at this point. I think he desperately needs a repackaging.
Yea, he could be right about Ryback. Would anyone be surprised if Ryback got wellness'd? I sure as hell wouldnt be.
I agree that Superstar is a very bitter man at this point and he has said things in the past that were at the very least questionable if not completely out of line, but a squirrel finds a nut on occasion.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 6, 2013 14:28:16 GMT -5
Reminds me of Jericho's story about Superstar handing him a run sheet at Eddie's funeral. Jericho got 5 minutes. "What the hell was he gonna do if I went over, cut to commercial?" Why was Superstar running Guerrero's funeral?
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 6, 2013 14:36:21 GMT -5
other than Cody he's probably right. the thing is, I believe in WWE you CAN use steroids as long as they came from a doctor (a real doctor, not the quack who gave Benoit and all those other guys their stuff). someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's one of the policy's guidelines. If you have a legitimate prescription it's ok... usually.
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Post by TGM on Nov 6, 2013 14:36:30 GMT -5
Billy Graham has meant more to the wrestling industry than those three are ever likely to.
Although saying Cody won't make it is pretty stupid.
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Post by Chip on Nov 6, 2013 15:21:24 GMT -5
Yea, he could be right about Ryback. Would anyone be surprised if Ryback got wellness'd? I sure as hell wouldnt be. Given that they wellness'd Orton for steroids I really find it hard to believe that Ryback is on them. Why would they throw a main event talent under the bus but protect a midcarder who, if you go by the dirtsheets is in the doghouse currently. It just doesn't make sense to me. Is Ryback on something? Sure, maybe. Though if he is it must not be banned in the wellness policy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 15:41:56 GMT -5
Yea, he could be right about Ryback. Would anyone be surprised if Ryback got wellness'd? I sure as hell wouldnt be. Given that they wellness'd Orton for steroids I really find it hard to believe that Ryback is on them. Why would they throw a main event talent under the bus but protect a midcarder who, if you go by the dirtsheets is in the doghouse currently. It just doesn't make sense to me. Is Ryback on something? Sure, maybe. Though if he is it must not be banned in the wellness policy. WWE doesn't have to be protecting anyone. Lance Armstrong fooled very strict drug tests for like 15 years. Drug makers will always be one step ahead of drug testing.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 6, 2013 15:43:21 GMT -5
Given that they wellness'd Orton for steroids I really find it hard to believe that Ryback is on them. Why would they throw a main event talent under the bus but protect a midcarder who, if you go by the dirtsheets is in the doghouse currently. It just doesn't make sense to me. Is Ryback on something? Sure, maybe. Though if he is it must not be banned in the wellness policy. WWE doesn't have to be protecting anyone. Lance Armstrong fooled very strict drug tests for like 15 years. Drug makers will always be one step ahead of drug testing. I read that first as Lance Storm and wondered what evidence you had against him being a Sonjay Dutt like gas head
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Nov 6, 2013 15:46:01 GMT -5
"I think I feel sorry for him. I think he's done so much drugs throughout his career that his brains been burned out because he speaks of things he knows nothing about. For example in my own situation, he knows very well that when I spoke about WWE and was very critical about them, that he had heard me say if they changed everything that I would change my mind. He heard me from years ago saying yes I would. He's been critical of the Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame in Amsterdam, New York and he wanted out of that because he got mad at somebody, I don't know who. He recently was appalled at CM Punk because he said something about me wrestling in the Garden once a month. The things that Billy Graham says, I really have no idea why he says them. He talks about things without really knowing all the facts. I just think there's something wrong with the man."
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Post by Chip on Nov 6, 2013 15:48:06 GMT -5
Given that they wellness'd Orton for steroids I really find it hard to believe that Ryback is on them. Why would they throw a main event talent under the bus but protect a midcarder who, if you go by the dirtsheets is in the doghouse currently. It just doesn't make sense to me. Is Ryback on something? Sure, maybe. Though if he is it must not be banned in the wellness policy. WWE doesn't have to be protecting anyone. Lance Armstrong fooled very strict drug tests for like 15 years. Drug makers will always be one step ahead of drug testing. True but at least a lot of the people in WWE have been around body enhancing drugs and at the very least would be suspicious of him, f***, maybe that's the reason he's a midcarder now, they know he's on something but he refuses to acknowledge it or say what it was.
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Post by jamofpearls on Nov 6, 2013 16:33:09 GMT -5
Bleed to death on his own blood? That sick MONSTER. Nobody makes me bleed my own blood!
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 6, 2013 17:46:11 GMT -5
WWE doesn't have to be protecting anyone. Lance Armstrong fooled very strict drug tests for like 15 years. Drug makers will always be one step ahead of drug testing. True but at least a lot of the people in WWE have been around body enhancing drugs and at the very least would be suspicious of him, f***, maybe that's the reason he's a midcarder now, they know he's on something but he refuses to acknowledge it or say what it was. I honestly don't think there's any duplicity to it. Its like Sonnen, Vitor and Mir in UFC. They are on legal doses of testosterone because they can't produce it anymore. The reasons why are arguable. I think a guy like Orton being suspended is just straight up breaking the rules. He probably just took steroids, has no medical reason to that exempts him from Wellness scrutiny, so he got busted. I can't imagine as rich as he is, him not knowing how to mask. So it has to just be incompetence, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 1:34:17 GMT -5
Bleed to death on his own blood? That sick MONSTER. Well, at least it wouldn't be Bob Orton's blood...
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Post by kidglov3s on Nov 7, 2013 13:09:03 GMT -5
Was anyone else thinking/hoping it was the other Billy Graham?
(Doh beaten to it, I thought I read all the other posts but I'm actually a heel)
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 7, 2013 13:15:08 GMT -5
Billy Graham has meant more to the wrestling industry than those three are ever likely to. Yeah, but you can be influential in whatever you're doing, and still be bad at recognizing talent or running a business. Look at Michael Jordan, one of, if not the, most influential basketball players of all time, and one of the worst owners in the league today.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 13:28:22 GMT -5
Billy Graham has meant more to the wrestling industry than those three are ever likely to. Yeah, but you can be influential in whatever you're doing, and still be bad at recognizing talent or running a business. Look at Michael Jordan, one of, if not the, most influential basketball players of all time, and one of the worst owners in the league today. He was also the prototype for a look that the attainment of which has caused great suffering to himself and many other people.
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Nov 7, 2013 14:45:23 GMT -5
If WWE would suspend Rey, Orton, and Jeff Hardy for violating Wellness, they would have no qualms suspending Ryback. He would have been suspended a long time ago if he was actually on a banned substance. People need to realize Ryback is not on banned substances and get the f*** over it.
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