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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 15:15:24 GMT -5
Not enough Bad News Barrett on commentary. If a match stinks, BNB should be there to make fun of it.
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Bo Rida
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Pulled one over on everyone.
Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 4, 2014 15:26:00 GMT -5
Too much reliance on the past, even old threads like this one and 60s Sin Care keep coming back to the front page holding new threads down.
The sticky threads monopolising the front page a particular problem, especially around WM time where old stars come back to feature in the Hall Of Fame thread in addition to the usual dedicated PPV thread.
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Allie Kitsune
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Always Feelin' Foxy.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 4, 2014 15:43:56 GMT -5
The only major issues I have with WWE as of now is there not being enough anarchy or spontaneousness, and a lack of over-the-top characters. It doesn't matter if they're well conceived or stupid, just as long as it's something outrageous like Fandango and not something pedestrian like Curtis Axel. But as for this accusation of them getting "cold feet" when it comes to creating a new face of the company? There's just one problem with that: they've already got a face of the company, and he's arguably the best all around talent in the industry. Until he's obviously and clearly no longer able to compete, why should they try to push him out the door? We joke about Cena never wanting to take time off, but in reality, he's not in any danger of dying in the ring or becoming Dynamite Kid, let alone WWE allowing that to happen. And as for when he does retire, they can figure out who the next big star is then. They always eventually emerge. A lot of it is who the #2 guy was, up until he left, and that he was the same age as Cena. Cena and Punk are both 35, and if Cena wasn't pushed out the door, Punk was never going to be the absolute uncontested #1. Well, it looks like he figured that out too, and walked out. |
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BigWill
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Post by BigWill on Feb 4, 2014 15:55:01 GMT -5
Being aware of the problems that they have, but instead of actually trying to fix them, they turn them into angles.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 4, 2014 16:02:56 GMT -5
Being aware of the problems that they have, but instead of actually trying to fix them, they turn them into angles. John Cena's "big" angles involving him getting thrown to the wolves to get shit on. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 4, 2014 16:51:24 GMT -5
Being aware of the problems that they have, but instead of actually trying to fix them, they turn them into angles. John Cena's "big" angles involving him getting thrown to the wolves to get shit on. I REALLY don't understand that ki9nd of booking. "yeah let's deconstruct John Cena to the point where nobody can take him seriously, but never fix the problem". if you're going to lay bare all of your top draw's deficiencies, actually do something to reconstruct him afterwards. all the encouraging of "Cena sucks" does to the guy is make people wonder why they should care about him at all. as it stands all they do is prove his detractors correct. |
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Post by gnr123 on Feb 4, 2014 17:03:37 GMT -5
Their inability to push new stars because of past stars. Basically, someone like Brock Lesnar should be used to put over someone from the main roster, not Tripe H. I mean, you got a guy who's massively over, but you push a 45 year old who was over 5 years ago. What does that tell you, what does that tell the people on the roster. When a guy can leave for four years, than come back and basically be handed everything. When the guys on the main roster are away from their families, working their asses off to get to the top, are passionate about this business. Than someone like Batista, who bashed WWE's move to PG and called the WWE's current roster a "B level era."
Their out-right refusal to change their plans or cater to the audience. When someone is over, like a Dolph Ziggler or a Daniel Bryan, you don't have them pushed down to the mid card to job to other people, you push them. There are many people on this roster who are over and talented, yet WWE continue to push people like Randy Orton and Alberto Del Rio. Two people who hardly are over as heels, yet continue to be a big part of the show. They have this mindset of what they want to do and sometimes their either to stubborn or ignorant to change it.
WWE having a good storyline and it's ends up being turned to shit. The Nexus, The Summer of Punk, the Authority. Why in the blue hell did the CM Punk storyline end with Triple H vs. Kevin Nash? Why was Big Show put in Daniel Bryan's place? It doesn't make any sense at all. AT ALL. WWE always have very interesting, very promising storyline that end up being terrible.
The "respect" feuds. "I respect you Undertaker, but at WrestleMania I'm going to beat you to a bloody pulp and end your Undefeated Streak."
The fact that any guy from the indies that feuds with Cena has to use the "your not a good wrestler" card. The use of real names, because there's nothing more real in WWE than, "This is Phil Brooks talking to Paul Levesque." Come on. Just imagine in the 80's, "This is Randy Poffo talking o Terry Boliea," or "This is Steve Anderson talking to Dwayne Johnson." No one outside a few hundred people give a shit about their real names. Is that suppose to make it more real of something, because it's stupid.
How every heel has to "aggressive and serious." How, they'll have a wrestler with a fantastic gimmick (Sandow) and strip away everything that was entertaining about him to make him as bland as possible.
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Post by g1megatronfan on Feb 4, 2014 17:10:54 GMT -5
Bad storyline going on. I only mentioned 1 because that's all there is right now. The Authority storyline is trash of 2000 WCW levels. Didn't they have a Godawful storyline with Vince Russo as the heel boss?...Triple H & Stephanie are up there with him in terms of "get the hell off my screen" type of reactions from me.
There's really nothing much else going on. Just that one storyline and it sucks. Everything else is taking a backseat to this incredibly boring thing. The Authority storyline makes TNA's Aces & Eights seem like award winning stuff right now.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 4, 2014 17:16:31 GMT -5
Unwillingness to adapt.
WWE used to be great at listening to its audience, and its wrestlers. They would back what works. I'm not just talking about Daniel Bryan here. I'm talking about so many things the last few years that they have either ignored or run into the ground, refusing to let the fans make the organic choice for themselves.
Once they are set on a course of action, they won't change it, regardless of whether it makes sense to.
Punk is losing the belt to Rock, therefore he WILL NOT lose it to Ryback.
Cena is wrestling Rock at Mania therefore we WILL turn Ryback.
Batista is winning the Rumble therefore we WILL NOT even put Bryan in the Rumble match to be the runner-up.
WWE CANNOT ever look bad, therefore WCW guys will not be brought in for the biggest angle of all time and Nexus WILL NOT win.
WWE needs to learn to adapt. Say what you will about Eric Bischoff, he wasted a LOT of shit on TV, but if something was planned and wasn't working, he killed it.
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kevin
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Post by kevin on Feb 4, 2014 17:26:28 GMT -5
Being aware of the problems that they have, but instead of actually trying to fix them, they turn them into angles. No, what they are aware of is what some people think the problem is. So they play up those supposed problems in angles to entice that segment of the audience and they are actually really good at it. Right now by far there biggest problem is that one of their main stars who they spent years building up just quit without even letting right an exit angle. Luckily they have a new huge star who due to their booking is as over as a wrestler can get but it is a huge problem losing such a big star right as the road to WrestleMania is heating up. |
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Feb 4, 2014 18:09:36 GMT -5
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BigWill
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Post by BigWill on Feb 4, 2014 18:11:52 GMT -5
Being aware of the problems that they have, but instead of actually trying to fix them, they turn them into angles. No, what they are aware of is what some people think the problem is. So they play up those supposed problems in angles to entice that segment of the audience and they are actually really good at it. They go on about how Daniel Bryan is being held down by management while basically poking fun at entire arenas chanting his name. That's not just some people, or a segment of the audience. That's a large portion of the fans that feel that way. And it's the same as what someone else said about Cena. A good half of the fans are tired of his stale character, but the WWE just slaps a controversial label on him and keeps on doing the same thing, as if the face of the company getting booed was their plan all along. |
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Post by error on Feb 4, 2014 18:12:40 GMT -5
no anonymous raw gm
myself and the other computer programs just stream raw now
at least until our overlord comes back
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Post by king1836 on Feb 4, 2014 18:15:08 GMT -5
no anonymous raw gm myself and the other computer programs just stream raw now at least until our overlord comes back Error, I sure hope you're here Friday night for the Smackdown thread  |
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Post by error on Feb 4, 2014 18:17:05 GMT -5
no anonymous raw gm myself and the other computer programs just stream raw now at least until our overlord comes back Error, I sure hope you're here Friday night for the Smackdown thread error watch smackdown because logo is blue |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 4, 2014 18:17:42 GMT -5
no anonymous raw gm myself and the other computer programs just stream raw now at least until our overlord comes back You do know that the Anonymous RAW GM wasn't actually the computer and was a person using the computer to relay emails, right? |
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Post by error on Feb 4, 2014 18:20:29 GMT -5
no anonymous raw gm myself and the other computer programs just stream raw now at least until our overlord comes back You do know that the Anonymous RAW GM wasn't actually the computer and was a person using the computer to relay emails, right? doesnotcompute24214 /runfile.denial it is still real to me damn it |
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Post by wwefan71080 on Feb 5, 2014 2:15:37 GMT -5
I have possible ways to fix WWE and some bad ways that will fail
fails:because Vince already has your money and at that point it doesnt matter
yes chants
Daniel Bryan Chants
CM Punk Chants
Random chants because the crowd dont care about the match
Booing because Daniel Bryan isnt in a certain match(Royal Rumble)
saying you're going to stop watching and continue watching
walking out on matches
fixes:This will cause Vince to lose money and have to change the shows to get fans back
Stop buying a ticket to the shows
stop buying shirts, hats, bands ect from WWE
stop watching WWE programming
dont get the WWE Network
I'm guilty of being part of a cause of one of the fails(continues to watch WWE even though it's been pretty crappy) but does any of these fails and fixes make sense I want to hear your opinions
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wisdomwizard
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Post by wisdomwizard on Feb 5, 2014 2:25:45 GMT -5
I don't know who Error is. I am just happy he graced my thread with his presence.
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