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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 4, 2013 17:32:09 GMT -5
WWE will blame everything except their shitty booking
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Post by 2 Cold Scorkum on Dec 4, 2013 18:36:36 GMT -5
next week on raw, vince wrestles hulk hogan for some reason, with stone cold as special guest referee.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Dec 4, 2013 18:44:06 GMT -5
Just saw, and yeah it's sescoops.com so take that with a grain of salt, 2.65 was the rating. Found a 2.6 rating 9/15/08, 12/31/07, Christmas 2006 was as well. Ratings might not matter like they once did, but if, essentially, a go home show before a PPV that featured all your "big names" with the exception of Undertaker draws what a Christmas or New Years Eve broadcast, that's not good. But what was the viewership numbers for the 2006 show? When looking at ratings that's the most important thing.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 4, 2013 19:07:35 GMT -5
Just saw, and yeah it's sescoops.com so take that with a grain of salt, 2.65 was the rating. Found a 2.6 rating 9/15/08, 12/31/07, Christmas 2006 was as well. Ratings might not matter like they once did, but if, essentially, a go home show before a PPV that featured all your "big names" with the exception of Undertaker draws what a Christmas or New Years Eve broadcast, that's not good. But it's not the go home show in any capacity... TLC is the 15th.
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Post by kidglov3s on Dec 4, 2013 19:11:18 GMT -5
Just saw, and yeah it's sescoops.com so take that with a grain of salt, 2.65 was the rating. Found a 2.6 rating 9/15/08, 12/31/07, Christmas 2006 was as well. Ratings might not matter like they once did, but if, essentially, a go home show before a PPV that featured all your "big names" with the exception of Undertaker draws what a Christmas or New Years Eve broadcast, that's not good. But it's not the go home show in any capacity... TLC is the 15th. The sentiment I heard from Meltzer and Alvarez is that this should be viewed as the go-home show, and that WWE put it together as the go-home show with making all the matches, because next week will be mostly taken up by Slammy business.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 4, 2013 19:13:36 GMT -5
I mean that kinda makes sense in how the ending was definitely the show before PPV ending... but there's still another week...
just seems very bizarre... though not as bizarre as the British Bulldog.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 4, 2013 19:13:42 GMT -5
But it's not the go home show in any capacity... TLC is the 15th. The sentiment I heard from Meltzer and Alvarez is that this should be viewed as the go-home show, and that WWE put it together as the go-home show with making all the matches, because next week will be mostly taken up by Slammy business. I thought something was suspicious when WWE actually had most of a PPV card booked more than a week in advance...
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 4, 2013 19:14:33 GMT -5
I can't be the only one who feels Football has less of an effect on the ratings than they claim it does. I think it DOES have an effect on the ratings. However, I think that because of this, WWE should be willing to test more talents on RAW with the expectation that the show is going to get lower ratings than desired anyway.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Dec 4, 2013 20:22:18 GMT -5
Well no shit, not enough Sheamus.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 4, 2013 20:23:37 GMT -5
I can't be the only one who feels Football has less of an effect on the ratings than they claim it does. I think it DOES have an effect on the ratings. However, I think that because of this, WWE should be willing to test more talents on RAW with the expectation that the show is going to get lower ratings than desired anyway. In theory that would work, but we've seen how it is in practice: WWE tries out a new talent on Raw during the NFL season- and then, when the ratings plummet because of it, WWE can claim "Well, we TRIED this guy as a major player, but the ratings dropped- it's not our fault that the guy's bad for ratings- we have to go back to tried and true main eventers."
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Post by Welfare Willis on Dec 4, 2013 20:29:10 GMT -5
WWE will blame everything except their shitty booking Clearly Daniel Bryan is to blame. Also we need Vince again! (He said sarcastically.)
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 4, 2013 20:38:16 GMT -5
I think viewership is a bit of a better indicator of interest in the show than ratings. Sometimes viewership is up, but ratings are down. Sometimes viewership is down, but ratings are up. Ratings measure the number of viewers based on total household watching TV at that time. Obviously total viewership measure how many people actually watched.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 20:52:58 GMT -5
To me, if status quo draws the same as trying new things and building up new people, you try new things and build up new people. Status quo will never go beyond wehre it is. Trying new things and building up new people can at least possibly lead to greater success down the road. It's an investment.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Dec 4, 2013 21:03:36 GMT -5
See I won't take jabs at WWE for blaming it on circumstances, because whenever segments with "certain people" do bad, a lot of people here have excuses for why.
So it's pretty much a double standard with no use in arguing
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Post by BigWill on Dec 4, 2013 21:04:29 GMT -5
To me, if status quo draws the same as trying new things and building up new people, you try new things and build up new people. Status quo will never go beyond wehre it is. Trying new things and building up new people can at least possibly lead to greater success down the road. It's an investment. That's true. Just because something doesn't show an immediate improvement to the situation, doesn't mean it isn't worth trying, as it could create benefits later down the road.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 4, 2013 21:10:32 GMT -5
well on paper at least, Saints/Seahawks appeared to be the best MNF game of the year
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 21:13:14 GMT -5
To me, if status quo draws the same as trying new things and building up new people, you try new things and build up new people. Status quo will never go beyond wehre it is. Trying new things and building up new people can at least possibly lead to greater success down the road. It's an investment. That's true. Just because something doesn't show an immediate improvement to the situation, doesn't mean it isn't worth trying, as it could create benefits later down the road. See, what you're demonstrating here is what all us adults call "long-term planning," possibly "foresight," if you weel. Now everything I've heard about the way the WWE is run is they don't think of shit past end of the quarter. "Long-term" is them wondering what they're trying to do for the next Wrestlemania on the Raw After, then booking backwards to Royal Rumble at best and....that's about it. Everything else is them badly winging it, especially now.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 4, 2013 22:41:16 GMT -5
Orton as the top guy on Raw a few years ago coincided with ratings dropping. Orton as top guy on Smackdown a year or so after that coincided in ratings falling through the floor.
Orton has been the top guy on Raw since August. Ratings have been steadily dropping since August.
I know one guy isn't responsible for the ratings for the whole show, but there's a definite pattern forming.
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Post by mysterydriver on Dec 4, 2013 23:34:42 GMT -5
No Santino in a cowboy hat for Country Raw has equaled the slow steady decline of ratings since WWE has shown itself unable to do the simplest of good ideas.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 5, 2013 2:39:56 GMT -5
WWE should remove us from the ratings count, because we technically don't watch the show, but only use it as a set up for various punchlines here on this forum.
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