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Post by Urfarkendarf on Dec 7, 2013 14:10:34 GMT -5
$60 up front to start? That screams bush league money grab, even if you get WMXXX, which, guaranteed, you aren't going to be watching online. The only way they can make this work is if they offer it as an XBox/PS4/Roku app. I actually think opposite. Considering the amount of material alone that WWE has and will be offering, it's an incredible value for a wrestling fan. I think they could get away with charging $99 for it and people would pay it. Compare it to something like NFL Sunday Ticket which is $45 a month for 5 months for a season that lasts roughly 6 months. The big difference there is obviously Sunday Ticket is also available on TV (and only DirecTV), but the amount of material is not near WWE's. Personally, I'm not as much of a fan of old material so this doesn't really interest me at the moment. My old material interest is when I want to see something specific or re-watch events I've attended (all of which I have the original broadcasts of transferred to DVD). And there's absolutely no doubt they will get into bed with one of the consoles (if not both) and have apps and all that crap. Price wise though, I can't see how anyone complain if this is the price point they're aiming for.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 7, 2013 14:59:34 GMT -5
$60 up front to start? That screams bush league money grab, even if you get WMXXX, which, guaranteed, you aren't going to be watching online. The only way they can make this work is if they offer it as an XBox/PS4/Roku app. I actually think opposite. Considering the amount of material alone that WWE has and will be offering, it's an incredible value for a wrestling fan. I think they could get away with charging $99 for it and people would pay it. Compare it to something like NFL Sunday Ticket which is $45 a month for 5 months for a season that lasts roughly 6 months. The big difference there is obviously Sunday Ticket is also available on TV (and only DirecTV), but the amount of material is not near WWE's. Personally, I'm not as much of a fan of old material so this doesn't really interest me at the moment. My old material interest is when I want to see something specific or re-watch events I've attended (all of which I have the original broadcasts of transferred to DVD). And there's absolutely no doubt they will get into bed with one of the consoles (if not both) and have apps and all that crap. Price wise though, I can't see how anyone complain if this is the price point they're aiming for. I see the value in it. My issue is the price structure. 60 bucks upfront for no reason sounds like they're trying to recoup as much of their money as possible on the front end, and then to charge $10 a month after that, which is as much as they were charging for WWE On Demand, is pretty ballsy on their part. Also, has their been any discussion about what the WWE Network will be? Is it an actual (online now) network, or is it just WWE On Demand, just online exclusive with PPV's thrown in?
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Dec 7, 2013 15:28:45 GMT -5
Ya, I'd buy that. I think maybe cable and satellite TV dodged a bullet by not getting in bed with that sinking ship Slightly fixed
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Dec 7, 2013 15:49:55 GMT -5
I actually think opposite. Considering the amount of material alone that WWE has and will be offering, it's an incredible value for a wrestling fan. I think they could get away with charging $99 for it and people would pay it. Compare it to something like NFL Sunday Ticket which is $45 a month for 5 months for a season that lasts roughly 6 months. The big difference there is obviously Sunday Ticket is also available on TV (and only DirecTV), but the amount of material is not near WWE's. Personally, I'm not as much of a fan of old material so this doesn't really interest me at the moment. My old material interest is when I want to see something specific or re-watch events I've attended (all of which I have the original broadcasts of transferred to DVD). And there's absolutely no doubt they will get into bed with one of the consoles (if not both) and have apps and all that crap. Price wise though, I can't see how anyone complain if this is the price point they're aiming for. I see the value in it. My issue is the price structure. 60 bucks upfront for no reason sounds like they're trying to recoup as much of their money as possible on the front end, and then to charge $10 a month after that, which is as much as they were charging for WWE On Demand, is pretty ballsy on their part. Also, has their been any discussion about what the WWE Network will be? Is it an actual (online now) network, or is it just WWE On Demand, just online exclusive with PPV's thrown in? I dont think anyone knows yet. Last I heard, they were "looking at all options". I think at this point they just want to get the thing off the ground. It may be advantageous to launch online-only and if the interest is there, then they could potentially get a channel.
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Post by vgmastr on Dec 7, 2013 16:23:44 GMT -5
I actually think opposite. Considering the amount of material alone that WWE has and will be offering, it's an incredible value for a wrestling fan. I think they could get away with charging $99 for it and people would pay it. Compare it to something like NFL Sunday Ticket which is $45 a month for 5 months for a season that lasts roughly 6 months. The big difference there is obviously Sunday Ticket is also available on TV (and only DirecTV), but the amount of material is not near WWE's. Personally, I'm not as much of a fan of old material so this doesn't really interest me at the moment. My old material interest is when I want to see something specific or re-watch events I've attended (all of which I have the original broadcasts of transferred to DVD). And there's absolutely no doubt they will get into bed with one of the consoles (if not both) and have apps and all that crap. Price wise though, I can't see how anyone complain if this is the price point they're aiming for. I see the value in it. My issue is the price structure. 60 bucks upfront for no reason sounds like they're trying to recoup as much of their money as possible on the front end, and then to charge $10 a month after that, which is as much as they were charging for WWE On Demand, is pretty ballsy on their part. Also, has their been any discussion about what the WWE Network will be? Is it an actual (online now) network, or is it just WWE On Demand, just online exclusive with PPV's thrown in? The $60 upfront thing is to prevent people from subscribing to the service just to see Wrestlemania for $10 and cancel right after. It's still $10 a month, you just pay for the first six months upfront. You don't start paying $10 a month until month seven.
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Post by Sparkybob on Dec 7, 2013 22:26:57 GMT -5
I see the value in it. My issue is the price structure. 60 bucks upfront for no reason sounds like they're trying to recoup as much of their money as possible on the front end, and then to charge $10 a month after that, which is as much as they were charging for WWE On Demand, is pretty ballsy on their part. Also, has their been any discussion about what the WWE Network will be? Is it an actual (online now) network, or is it just WWE On Demand, just online exclusive with PPV's thrown in? The $60 upfront thing is to prevent people from subscribing to the service just to see Wrestlemania for $10 and cancel right after. It's still $10 a month, you just pay for the first six months upfront. You don't start paying $10 a month until month seven. Yea they have to do it that way or else a lot of people will just pay for a month and then quit.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 7, 2013 23:47:09 GMT -5
The $60 upfront thing is to prevent people from subscribing to the service just to see Wrestlemania for $10 and cancel right after. It's still $10 a month, you just pay for the first six months upfront. You don't start paying $10 a month until month seven. Yea they have to do it that way or else a lot of people will just pay for a month and then quit. I see, now it makes more sense to me. This does seem like it would be necessary.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 17:20:13 GMT -5
Very smart move. It'll be US (and possibly Canada) only at launch, so they'll still get a lot of international PPV buys as well as those in US who choose not to subscribe (or can't because they don't have a fast enough connection). So they don't need to get that many subscribers to make up for the loss of traditional PPV buys, because they see so little of that $ anyway because of the cable companies and indemand taking their cuts. It'll stay US only for some time i'd imagine as different current TV deals around the world may restrict things. It'll be easy enough for someone outside the US to sign up and use after a bit of googling (I say this as a Hulu Plus user in the UK) Also if rights deals restrict what can be viewed in the different regions (I imagine it will as for example Freemantle in the UK have online streaming distribution rights for all WWE's DVD releases here (though that deal was signed recently so provisions could have been made for the network) and Sky have exclusive PPV rights) as has been seen with Netflix tricking it in to thinking you are in a different region and accessing that regions library is easy enough too.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 8, 2013 17:26:09 GMT -5
I do agree with the notion that thinks that there's something fishy sounding about how presumably great that deal is. It just sounds a little off.
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Post by jamofpearls on Dec 9, 2013 12:55:32 GMT -5
Cable is dying anyways. They can position themselves pretty well for the future of digital distribution. Seeing as how I've cut my cable, I prefer this type of service.
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