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Post by ratetankmark on Jan 8, 2014 12:45:45 GMT -5
Seriously it's possibly the darkest end to a Disney villain ever, hell you can see the guy's hanging corpse, how did that stuff make it past the censors and into a Disney film, don't get me wrong Tarzan is a really cool film and to see that sort of stuff in a family animated flick was surely surprising when I first saw it, but I thought one of those RTC Killjoy censors would've spotted it and demanded it removed or something like that.
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Post by Cela on Jan 8, 2014 13:22:24 GMT -5
Because no one cared about that movie.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 8, 2014 13:42:44 GMT -5
Ursulas was more hardcore, impaled by a f***ing boat.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 8, 2014 13:43:35 GMT -5
you don't see his corpse, you see the shadow
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 8, 2014 14:40:06 GMT -5
Disney actually gets away with a lot of fairly dark death scenes. Frollo's death in Hunchback of Notre Dame might as well have had big flashing lights saying "he's literally going to hell".
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Post by Cela on Jan 8, 2014 14:40:18 GMT -5
Scar got devoured by Hyenas, you saw it in the shadows.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jan 8, 2014 14:44:42 GMT -5
Pinocchio got stabbed to death by a drifter in an alley over a disputed dice game.
Wait...I could be remembering that incorrectly.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 8, 2014 14:45:16 GMT -5
Scar got devoured by Hyenas, you saw it in the shadows. Yeah, a lot of the disney villains die in rather gruesome ways... usually off screen
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jan 8, 2014 14:45:24 GMT -5
you don't see his corpse, you see the shadow I always found it weird that it's apparently less offensive to censors if we don't technically see the death. We still know he died, we still know HOW he died, we still know it was brutal and presumably painful, so how is it any less shocking just because we don't see the actual body? I don't think any kid is gonna buy "he's just sleeping, honey". But seriously, I always find it weird that people always say nobody ever dies in Disney or that it's always tame considering how brutal the villains' deaths often are in these films. Clayton gets his neck snapped by hanging, Scar is eaten alive by hyenas, Frollo burns and/or asphyxiates to death in molten steel, Gaston ends up impaled on spikes (which he has plenty of time to realize as he falls towards them), the list goes on and on.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 8, 2014 14:48:36 GMT -5
I was actually going to mention the Gaston death in my post. But I couldn't remember if the spikes were in the movie or something I just imagined
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 8, 2014 14:56:43 GMT -5
Pinocchio got stabbed to death by a drifter in an alley over a disputed dice game. Wait...I could be remembering that incorrectly. the scene where Lampwick turns into a donkey is still IMO the most terrifying sequence in children's movie history. can't believe they got away with something like that during the days of the Hays Code.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Jan 8, 2014 15:45:31 GMT -5
Honestly I never noticed Clayton's shadow until just last year.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Jan 8, 2014 16:30:06 GMT -5
you don't see his corpse, you see the shadow I always found it weird that it's apparently less offensive to censors if we don't technically see the death. We still know he died, we still know HOW he died, we still know it was brutal and presumably painful, so how is it any less shocking just because we don't see the actual body? I don't think any kid is gonna buy "he's just sleeping, honey". But seriously, I always find it weird that people always say nobody ever dies in Disney or that it's always tame considering how brutal the villains' deaths often are in these films. Clayton gets his neck snapped by hanging, Scar is eaten alive by hyenas, Frollo burns and/or asphyxiates to death in molten steel, Gaston ends up impaled on spikes (which he has plenty of time to realize as he fallas towards them), the list goes on and on. Not forgetting of course a certain deer's mother being shot.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 8, 2014 16:31:44 GMT -5
I always found it weird that it's apparently less offensive to censors if we don't technically see the death. We still know he died, we still know HOW he died, we still know it was brutal and presumably painful, so how is it any less shocking just because we don't see the actual body? I don't think any kid is gonna buy "he's just sleeping, honey". But seriously, I always find it weird that people always say nobody ever dies in Disney or that it's always tame considering how brutal the villains' deaths often are in these films. Clayton gets his neck snapped by hanging, Scar is eaten alive by hyenas, Frollo burns and/or asphyxiates to death in molten steel, Gaston ends up impaled on spikes (which he has plenty of time to realize as he fallas towards them), the list goes on and on. Not forgetting of course a certain deer's mother being shot. and the Andy Dick lion falls to his horrible violent death in the otherwise boring Lion King 2. if that movie had one redeeming feature it was killing Andy Dick horribly.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 8, 2014 17:08:23 GMT -5
Rourke and Helga from Atlantis The Lost Empire went out fairly graphically by Disney standards, but then again they were going for the Indiana Jones vibe there.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 8, 2014 17:10:06 GMT -5
Pinocchio got stabbed to death by a drifter in an alley over a disputed dice game. Wait...I could be remembering that incorrectly. You're thinking of an outtake from the Roberto Benigni one.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 8, 2014 17:20:30 GMT -5
Not really shocking when you remember Tarzan came a year after Mulan, a film which not only has the villains implicitly killing a messenger because he wasn't necessary, the desolation of entire village (with specific imagery to denote children were included in the slaughter) and has Mulan likely killing at least hundreds of enemy soldiers via avalanche, giving her a higher body count than Charles Bronson in the Death Wish movies.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 8, 2014 17:37:10 GMT -5
you don't see his corpse, you see the shadow I always found it weird that it's apparently less offensive to censors if we don't technically see the death. We still know he died, we still know HOW he died, we still know it was brutal and presumably painful, so how is it any less shocking just because we don't see the actual body? I don't think any kid is gonna buy "he's just sleeping, honey". I think it's that death in itself isn't an issue, gore is. When you guy away, it's not graphic, so it's more acceptable. Death, however, is such a ubiquitious part of reality that you can't ban it from movies or tv. As for brutal Disney deaths, Ray gets stepped on, and then dies onscreen later.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Jan 8, 2014 17:40:52 GMT -5
Pretty dark.
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ratetankmark
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Post by ratetankmark on Jan 8, 2014 17:44:16 GMT -5
Rourke and Helga from Atlantis The Lost Empire went out fairly graphically by Disney standards, but then again they were going for the Indiana Jones vibe there. For Rourke it was even scarier considering if he didn't turn to Crystal, imagine his death then.
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