If you were the undertaker...

[The IWC WORLD Champion]

Feb 2, 2014 8:26:39 GMT -5 @sandman said:

"I Broke The Streak", or "I Retired The Undertaker"?

Both pretty meaningless now considering his age. It is like saying I beat an old guy who can just about put on one match a year. Hardly something to brag about. 10 years ago yeah it would be a big deal, today, about as impressive as Brock Lesnar beating Zach Gowen.

[king1836]

Feb 1, 2014 18:08:00 GMT -5 Brother Nero....Wolfe said:

I'd lose.

Forget "this business" or "who gets the rub." It's just that I can't imagine a way to satisfactorily end a plot like that without losing. "Immortal monster never loses...then leaves without ever being defeated" just isn't a satisfying ending for me.

I'd lose to Cena, not because he is the best for business or anything, but because it would be the most fitting storywise. Cena's character is built around doing the impossible, and this IS pretty impossible. It would be a legitimate tense match and I would love every moment of it. The ultimate odds-overcomer vs the ultimate odds. Would it be the best move for business? Don't care. It's just what I would want to see, really.

If that happens, the fans will riot!

[The Shareholder is nude]

As long as I (meaning the Undertaker) get to hand pick the opponent, get to handpick the finish, and get 100% creative control of the match (ensuring no HHH bullshit spotlight hogging pre during or post match) then I would end the streak. And the only people I (as Undertaker) would pick would be one of the following:

Daniel Bryan
Roman Reigns
Dolph Ziggler
Mark Henry
Kane

all 5 of these individuals have one thing in common: a massive love of the business and a huge respect for it. Each of them brings something to the table as far as opponents go.

[BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps]

Beat Cena, retire undefeated. Most of the roster right now is in a weird position where either they don't need the rub of beating Taker, or are way too unproven to handle the burden of being "the guy that beat Taker at Mania".

The perfect candidate would be someone massively over, marketable, not injury prone, loyal to the company (which means they won't pull a Punk or a Lesnar), and reliable enough to where WWE knows they won't do or say anything stupid (the RVDs and Jeff Hardys of the world). Bryan comes ever so close to fitting the qualifications, but he's probably already hit the "doesn't need the rub" mark.

[EP 54 is banned from Collision]

If I was Taker, I'd look at the Streak being an achievement of being in the company and being over enough for being booked on twenty-odd Wrestlemanias in my career. That'd be the achievement. The actual streak- well for a start, in the beginning it was pure luck. A booking quirk.

I'd count the lights, and give the rub, no matter what Vince does with the guy afterwards. That wouldn't be anything to do with me. I'd have done the right thing.

[Deleted]

I would hold on to the streak. Not even for my legacy's sake but it's hard for me to see someone beating the streak at this point as anything but a kiss of death. I think at this point, so long as they keep giving Undertaker fresh opponents, just challenging the streak is a great enough rub that they don't need the win. Then it becomes "you're the guy that Undertaker went on a 20 year winning streak for" and for me anyways it's hard to look at that and just accept it, as opposed to often wondering if they made the right call. On a grand scale I think someone beating the streak would be very hard to accept.

[MiLo Duck]

I used to be all about the streak helping someone new. But that was when I thought the streak and Taker maybe would have lasted five years less than he currently is.

Now it is too tied into the man himself to end in any other way than him just holding on to it or it ending with a him and Kane retiring double pin or something.

Now I am even more of the mind for his retirement match be at a Survivor Series making it an even anniversary thing from his debut, win or lose.

[lmagicdancer1]

If I were the Undertaker it would depend on how far I would want to go to convince everyone that I am retired. It was established three years ago in story lines that the only reason he returns is for the streak. Okay, say he does what everyone wants him to do: retire with the streak in tact. It wont be long before he is bombarded with tweets and people stopping him asking when he is coming back. This is the same man who goes on yearly sabbaticals only to come back again and again. As long as he is undefeated there is a loose end.

But on the other hand if he wanted to end the streak who would want it? Han't he tried to give it away to any one besides Kane? Orton?

["Trickster Dogg" James Jesse]

Have him lose a match where Cena turns heel. But Cena doesn't just turn heel because he broke the Streak. Cena turns heel in the match because he cheats to win. He uses a handful of tights, or puts his feet on the ropes, or throws powder in the Undertaker's eyes. Have Cena cheat to win because all his other attempts to keep the Undertaker down failed. Cena's desperation to win motivates his heel turn. Cena then goes full-blown heel and feuds with a few face guys (Bryan, Rhodes, Ziggler, and Reigns), elevating them and cementing their status as the future of the main event before transitioning into part-time veteran status himself.

[4TheGlory]

I'd only lose the streak (and a bit of my legacy) if I got to hand pick the wrestler that I'd put over.

[percymania]

I would want to give it up to somebody. It's the honorable thing to do.

[SeVeN: #TheBadGuy.]

Feb 2, 2014 9:32:00 GMT -5 Chip said:

Feb 1, 2014 22:26:41 GMT -5 SeVeN: #TheBadGuy. said:

Keep the streak and retire at survivor series. The streak needs to be his greatest achievement.

I've always felt that The Streak over-shadowed the rest of his work. Though I've never seen The Streak as anything more then a booking coincidence that they realised had happened and decided to make a big deal out of it

I agree. He got to like 10-0 and someone realized he was undefeated and it turned into a 'thing'. As for over shadowing other than streak I think the most memorable thing about Taker is the character itself. His title reigns haven't ever really been special. He's never really done anything revolutionary aside from THAT hell in a cell match. I believe his streak is the equivalent of whoever has held the most titles or the longest reigns.

[Ryback on a Pole!]

I'd lose, just because 'Taker eventually retiring undefeated means the whole storyline is going out on a whimper.

But, I would want to make sure that the storyline leading into the match is epic and, that the right guy is going to get the win. I'd have the storyline have a year long build with Cody Rhodes training and practicing for a whole year to beat 'Taker. Getting advice and management from 'Takers past opponents, studying tapes, learning how to counter all of 'Takers offence and basically planning for a year to come up with a gameplan to beat 'Taker. End of the match, Cody surprising everyone by using 'Takers own Devils Triangle submission hold against him and choking him out.

[ritt works hard fo da chickens]

Andre became an immortal icon by giving up his "streak" (as bull as that was) to Hogan. The streak itself is just a footnote in wrestling history. It's one of those numbers that looks impressive when it flashes up next to is name but really has no meaning and easily forgotten. I think Cena/Taker would be a perfect end. The guy who carried the company through its past to the guy who carried it into its present.

[The IWC WORLD Champion]

Beating someone well past their prime is not a good thing.

Much like Lennox Lewis beating Mike Tyson it means nothing. The world knows in his prime Tyson would murder Lewis and anyone else.

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It's a much more satisfying ending to the Undertaker character if he actually loses, in my opinion.

If I'm Taker, I'm taking the chance that this could give some incredible rub to the guy who breaks it. What happens afterwards is up to the performer and to the creative team, but beating the Streak could make a career.

[Dat Dude]

I said before, I'd have Wyatt break it.

[Ryushinku]

I don't believe that it should be broken, but if they did do it then it's very difficult.

My problem is that by now The Streak is a massive thing. 20+ years of legacy. If they give it to an up-and-comer can they really guarantee that guy will make the most of this colossal gift? What happens if he flames out? Is there someone they really feel they could trust that to despite not having done much in the business yet? There have been people that look like sure-fire prospects fall by the wayside for one reason or another. Even with Andre in '87 they had to pretend he hadn't been slammed or lost matches previously, with Taker's streak it's all out there.

You're on safer ground giving it to someone more established, but that's tricky too. Cena makes the most sense but the argument there would be does he need it?

I just think being the person that breaks Taker's streak is such a huge pressure and legacy to live up to that it would crush a lot of guys. Teasing that it could happen, absolutely, that's the money in the chase. But push comes to shove, unless I could really hear something sure-fire to make it worth breaking I'd let Taker ride off into the sunset with it.

[Chip]

Feb 3, 2014 4:24:42 GMT -5 The IWC WORLD Champion said:

Beating someone well past their prime is not a good thing.

Except this is the Undertaker we are talking about. This is a guy that died three times and yet still walks the land. A guy that can conjure lighting bolts to strike at whatever he wishes. It's not a normal man people are stepping into the ring with, it's a paranormal being.

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I'm of the opinion the streak should never end, and if someone did break it at this point, it'd probably effectively kill their career because the crowd would completely, permanently turn on them and nothing they could possibly do afterward would live up to it - it'd be all downhill from there. Plus, when the streak's gone, it's gone, so it makes more sense to keep it around just in case Taker ever decides after retiring to have another match or two.