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Post by Perd on Feb 25, 2014 14:08:07 GMT -5
I wasn't impressed, at first, but I've really come around the last few months. Now, I find him (and Rowan and Harper) one of the best things about Raw.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Feb 25, 2014 14:08:12 GMT -5
I don't know what most fans want out of Bray, but as far as I'm concerned, he could stand to be a little more cartoonish. *Steph sets a pie on the windowsill* "Now, Hunter, don't you eat this pie!" *Triple rolls his eyes* "Of course I won't." *Steph leaves. Triple H is reading the paper when music distorts and a lamb face is shown. the lights go out.* *The lights come back on, Triple H is covered in blueberry and the pie is gone* "Ah crap." "As I would like to re-iterate, our WrestleMania main event...." /all of a sudden, the lights go out, and the "DEPH!", along with the brief flash of the sheep mask on screen, appear/ /the lights return, and we see Triple H completely covered in fireplace soot, redfaced about it.../ "WYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!!" /on the ramp, Bray Wyatt is seen pointing at HHH and laughing at him, as he and the Family cartoonishly run off./
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 25, 2014 14:11:53 GMT -5
*Steph sets a pie on the windowsill* "Now, Hunter, don't you eat this pie!" *Triple rolls his eyes* "Of course I won't." *Steph leaves. Triple H is reading the paper when music distorts and a lamb face is shown. the lights go out.* *The lights come back on, Triple H is covered in blueberry and the pie is gone* "Ah crap." "As I would like to re-iterate, our WrestleMania main event...." /all of a sudden, the lights go out, and the "DEPH!", along with the brief flash of the sheep mask on screen, appear/ /the lights return, and we see Triple H completely covered in fireplace soot, redfaced about it.../ "WYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!!" /on the ramp, Bray Wyatt is seen pointing at HHH and laughing at him, as he and the Family cartoonishly run off./ Rowan and Harper appear in the ring to attack Speedy Gonzales. He is fast, but outmanned. Luke Harper Big Boots him into a pinata while yelling YEeeeeeeeeeAHghh.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Feb 25, 2014 14:12:11 GMT -5
To everyone who's against Wayatt, what do you watch wrestling for? In essence, it's a real life comic book, with larger than life characters fighting for good and evil. Wayatt fits into that dynamic perfectly. Good matches, stories and characters. I'm ok with a backwoods hillbilly cult but I don't buy anything Bray does. It's too forced. I think he's too confident in his abilities. He's like Ambrose. They both overact constantly and need to tone it down a bit. It's hard to believe in his character when it's apparent he's always acting. What he says is stupid too. I hate monologues in wrestling, especially when they have nothing to do with wrestling. His content is meaningless and therefore, heatless. The people in this thread like him, but he kills crowds dead. It happened at Elimination Chamber and on Raw. He's not that good in the ring either. I don't understand this monster push or FAN love. The Hawaiian shirts need to go, so do the bright white pants. And the long winded, boring speeches. And the stupid forehead kiss when he does the finisher.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 14:15:16 GMT -5
To everyone who's against Wayatt, what do you watch wrestling for? In essence, it's a real life comic book, with larger than life characters fighting for good and evil. Wayatt fits into that dynamic perfectly. Good matches, stories and characters. I'm ok with a backwoods hillbilly cult but I don't buy anything Bray does. It's too forced. I think he's too confident in his abilities. He's like Ambrose. They both overact constantly and need to tone it down a bit. It's hard to believe in his character when it's apparent he's always acting. What he says is stupid too. I hate monologues in wrestling, especially when they have nothing to do with wrestling. His content is meaningless and therefore, heatless. The people in this thread like him, but he kills crowds dead. It happened at Elimination Chamber and on Raw. He's not that good in the ring either. I don't understand this monster push or FAN love. The Hawaiian shirts need to go, so do the bright white pants. And the long winded, boring speeches. And the stupid forehead kiss when he does the finisher. I disagree with a lot of that, especially the thing on him killing the crowd. The crowd was dead on Raw, sure, but it wasn't because of him, and usually they eat his act up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 14:17:47 GMT -5
My main problem with Bray is that he's too goofy to be serious and too serious to be goofy, if that makes any sense. I love campy wrestling, the wackier the better, but he just doesn't do it for me most of the time.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Feb 25, 2014 14:20:28 GMT -5
I like him for the most part, but I think he could indeed stand to laugh maniacally less. Have him be a bit more subtle with his sinister laughter, not trying to channel The Million Dollar Man.
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Feb 25, 2014 14:21:19 GMT -5
I've always loved characters like Bray -- Undertaker (minus the biker phase), Kane, the Great Muta, Sting, Mankind, etc. I get that he's not everyone's cup of tea, but for people claiming he's not a good promo, would you say the same about guys like Mick Foley?
Dislike him all you want, but by pro wrestling standards he's a damn good actor, with intensity and delivery that keeps the crowds' attention. While he may seem over the top to some, to us older fans who grew up with cocaine-fueled 80s promos from Randy Savage, the Ultimate Warrior, the Road Warriors and countless others, Bray is downright subtle.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 14:22:17 GMT -5
My main problem with Bray is that he's too goofy to be serious and too serious to be goofy, if that makes any sense. I love campy wrestling, the wackier the better, but he just doesn't do it for me most of the time. I think that's a good way to sum him up. I think the thing that really stands out most about his absurdities and what really bugs me about them is he does the same thing every time. 1. Torch lit. 2. We're here. 3. Nonsense about people being deluded and evil, how he'll save people through some vague means. Usually there's some sort of either biblical reference or animal metaphor, might be some Sister Abigail in there or something about his father being abusive / neglectful / whatever. 4. Torch blown out. 5. Electric torch turned on. 6. Electric torch blown out. 7. Sudden rocking chair. 8. Match. Included within Bray prances around and yells a lot and eventually walks like a spider for no reason. 9. Beatdown. 10. DERP! They're too stupid to take all that seriously but they're so set in their routine you can't embrace the absurdity of it.
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Post by misconduct was wrong on Feb 25, 2014 14:26:04 GMT -5
With Punk gone, Bray is the only reason I give a crap about wrestling. I could do with less of the "MLEP" teleporting though.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Feb 25, 2014 14:28:31 GMT -5
I've always loved characters like Bray -- Undertaker (minus the biker phase), Kane, the Great Muta, Sting, Mankind, etc. I get that he's not everyone's cup of tea, but for people claiming he's not a good promo, would you say the same about guys like Mick Foley? Dislike him all you want, but by pro wrestling standards he's a damn good actor, with intensity and delivery that keeps the crowds' attention. While he may seem over the top to some, to us older fans who grew up with cocaine-fueled 80s promos from Randy Savage, the Ultimate Warrior, the Road Warriors and countless others, Bray is downright subtle. Mick Foley was one of the best promo guys and actors. Mankind was a perfectly realized character. He made me believe in that character, as well as Dude Love. If you can't tell the difference between a Foley promo and Bray one, then this conversation is hopeless.
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Post by kidglov3s on Feb 25, 2014 14:31:40 GMT -5
I've always loved characters like Bray -- Undertaker (minus the biker phase), Kane, the Great Muta, Sting, Mankind, etc. I get that he's not everyone's cup of tea, but for people claiming he's not a good promo, would you say the same about guys like Mick Foley? Dislike him all you want, but by pro wrestling standards he's a damn good actor, with intensity and delivery that keeps the crowds' attention. While he may seem over the top to some, to us older fans who grew up with cocaine-fueled 80s promos from Randy Savage, the Ultimate Warrior, the Road Warriors and countless others, Bray is downright subtle. Mick Foley was one of the best promo guys and actors. Mankind was a perfectly realized character. He made me believe in that character, as well as Dude Love. If you can't tell the difference between a Foley promo and Bray one, then this conversation is hopeless. Beyond uniting some people who almost never see eye to eye in Bray Wyatt love I'm not sure the conversation does much more than establish that there's some people that are annoyed by Bray Wyatt and others who are not.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Feb 25, 2014 14:34:25 GMT -5
Mick Foley was one of the best promo guys and actors. Mankind was a perfectly realized character. He made me believe in that character, as well as Dude Love. If you can't tell the difference between a Foley promo and Bray one, then this conversation is hopeless. Beyond uniting some people who almost never see eye to eye in Bray Wyatt love I'm not sure the conversation does much more than establish that there's some people that are annoyed by Bray Wyatt and others who are not. True, but people that have voiced their criticisms have to answer dumb straw man arguments.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 14:35:43 GMT -5
Mick Foley was one of the best promo guys and actors. Mankind was a perfectly realized character. He made me believe in that character, as well as Dude Love. If you can't tell the difference between a Foley promo and Bray one, then this conversation is hopeless. Beyond uniting some people who almost never see eye to eye in Bray Wyatt love I'm not sure the conversation does much more than establish that there's some people that are annoyed by Bray Wyatt and others who are not. Then there's this third camp that's kind of blurring the lines and I'm part of, which is pretty much, "He can be entertaining and is clearly talented, but this character needs a lot of work." Beyond uniting some people who almost never see eye to eye in Bray Wyatt love I'm not sure the conversation does much more than establish that there's some people that are annoyed by Bray Wyatt and others who are not. True, but people that have voiced their criticisms have to answer dumb straw man arguments. And people who have offered valid defenses have been met with strawmen too. That happens.
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Post by kidglov3s on Feb 25, 2014 14:36:05 GMT -5
Beyond uniting some people who almost never see eye to eye in Bray Wyatt love I'm not sure the conversation does much more than establish that there's some people that are annoyed by Bray Wyatt and others who are not. True, but people that have voiced their criticisms have to answer dumb straw man arguments. That's certainly true.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Feb 25, 2014 14:39:05 GMT -5
My main problem with Bray is that he's too goofy to be serious and too serious to be goofy, if that makes any sense. I love campy wrestling, the wackier the better, but he just doesn't do it for me most of the time. I think that's a good way to sum him up. I think the thing that really stands out most about his absurdities and what really bugs me about them is he does the same thing every time. 1. Torch lit. 2. We're here. 3. Nonsense about people being deluded and evil, how he'll save people through some vague means. Usually there's some sort of either biblical reference or animal metaphor, might be some Sister Abigail in there or something about his father being abusive / neglectful / whatever. 4. Torch blown out. 5. Electric torch turned on. 6. Electric torch blown out. 7. Sudden rocking chair. 8. Match. Included within Bray prances around and yells a lot and eventually walks like a spider for no reason. 9. Beatdown. 10. DERP! They're too stupid to take all that seriously but they're so set in their routine you can't embrace the absurdity of it. Don't forge the DERP! before his segments start.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 14:40:46 GMT -5
I'm just cool with having a bad guy that's competent, somewhat entertaining, and isn't someone I've been watching in main events for the past decade.
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Post by Bear Skin Rug on Feb 25, 2014 14:46:15 GMT -5
Bray Wyatt is a sentient Spencer's Gifts.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 14:48:28 GMT -5
Bray Wyatt is a sentient Spencer's Gifts. I see no dildos on him. In my experience those are everywhere in Spencer's.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 14:51:05 GMT -5
Bray Wyatt is a sentient Spencer's Gifts. I see no dildos on him. In my experience those are everywhere in Spencer's. Dildos aren't PG. Unless you want Bray to come out covered in pixels and censor bars... ... ...Now that I've thought about it, Bray coming out covered in pixels and censor bars (because of all the dildos) would sell ALL OF THE PEOPLE on Bray.
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