StuntGranny®
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Apr 26, 2014 9:38:11 GMT -5
Of course this won't last.
Also, this reminds why I stopped reading most comic books.
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Post by wildojinx on Apr 26, 2014 10:20:14 GMT -5
They should have him come back as four new wolverines, a teen wolverine, a cyborg wolverine, a black wolverine in a suit of armor, and a wolverine with a visor.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 26, 2014 10:24:00 GMT -5
The rumor has it one of Marvel's next major crossovers will involve all the time travel and universe hopping shenanigans going on and the consequences. Gee...can't imagine how they'll bring him back. Even if it's a Wolverine from another time/universe , he'll be back.
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Blindkarevik
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Post by Blindkarevik on Apr 26, 2014 10:28:08 GMT -5
I think if you're going to kill of a character as big as this, you need to resolve to keep him dead for at least five years. No spinoffs, no "what ifs" no nothing.... dead dead dead.
Then, after that.. if you absolutely have to bring him back, do it as a complete reboot. No, "We found a way to resurrect him" no "We go back in time" no "He's been hiding out all along".... any current comics he is a part of, will have to do without him until they end their run.
I just think that forces the company to have have to deal with a permanent consequence rather than thinking of ways to retcon the death.
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Magnus the Magnificent
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Apr 26, 2014 10:37:49 GMT -5
Remember when they killed Captain America? Thor? Iron Man? Or DC did Batman? Superman? The Flash? He'll be back. It's just a matter of time, if they even actually kill him in the first place.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Apr 26, 2014 10:48:32 GMT -5
They only do this now for the headlines for the casual fans/people who know the characters via films, shows, cartoons, and games, but not the actual comics.
For us hardened comic readers, we see this and go, "Oh he'll be back.....", for the casual fans/non-readers, they see this and go, "Whoa, they are killing Wolverine?" and then they hope the latter will grab the issues to see it happen.
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Legion
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Post by Legion on Apr 26, 2014 10:52:37 GMT -5
From this I am taking pleasure that maybe it means a few months off Wolverine being everywhere.
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The Unconquered Sun
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Apr 26, 2014 11:24:47 GMT -5
Yes it is a shame to see him pass on and never come back like Superman, Jean Grey/Madelyne Pryor, Hawkeye, Aquaman, The Human Torch, Jason Todd, Blackbolt, Anti-Monitor, Mockingbird, Donna Troy, Thor, Moon Knight, The Spoiler, Wonder Man, The Green Goblin, Dr. Doom, Hal Jordan, Namorita, Iron Man, Swamp Thing, Colossus, J'onn J'onzz, Iron Fist, Bat Man, Wonder Woman, Aunt May, the Vision, Spider Man, Captain America…
And so on.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 26, 2014 12:19:07 GMT -5
...Stupid sexy Sabretooth...
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 26, 2014 12:22:41 GMT -5
Yes it is a shame to see him pass on and never come back like Superman, Jean Grey/Madelyne Pryor, Hawkeye, Aquaman, The Human Torch, Jason Todd, Blackbolt, Anti-Monitor, Mockingbird, Donna Troy, Thor, Moon Knight, The Spoiler, Wonder Man, The Green Goblin, Dr. Doom, Hal Jordan, Namorita, Iron Man, Swamp Thing, Colossus, J'onn J'onzz, Iron Fist, Bat Man, Wonder Woman, Aunt May, the Vision, Spider Man, Captain America… And so on. ![](http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131122031843/sonic/images/8/87/StH-258var.jpg) And this is her second resurrection.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 26, 2014 12:23:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I expect this to last exactly until Wolverine and Susan Storm breaking the space time continuum at the end of Age of Ultron actually gets resolved.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Apr 26, 2014 12:24:29 GMT -5
The killing off of characters really bugs me because it always comes off like such a sleazy, desperate move. It never has any real, lasting impact on anything--which trivializes the concept all together.
It's like when Russo made Arquette the WCW champion.
They only do it so they can get a little blurb in mainstream media that will boost sales for a month or two.
It's pathetic and it's one of the reasons I don't follow comics as much as I'd like.
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Bub (BLM)
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 26, 2014 13:10:24 GMT -5
The killing off of characters really bugs me because it always comes off like such a sleazy, desperate move. It never has any real, lasting impact on anything--which trivializes the concept all together. It's like when Russo made Arquette the WCW champion. They only do it so they can get a little blurb in mainstream media that will boost sales for a month or two. It's pathetic and it's one of the reasons I don't follow comics as much as I'd like. Pretty much. The only time bringing back a dead character was amazing rather than cheap was Brubaker bringing Bucky back as Winter Soldier. Kudos to him for pulling that off.
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 26, 2014 13:24:32 GMT -5
And the only reason Bucky worked was because he'd been gone for so long and it worked within the context of the story. Nowadays, no one can stay dead longer than a few years and they don't try to make it work in the story, they make it the story itself.
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jagilki
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Post by jagilki on Apr 26, 2014 13:26:14 GMT -5
I now want a superhero named "Major Character" who dies every single issue.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Apr 26, 2014 13:30:17 GMT -5
Still better than the New 52.
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Apr 26, 2014 13:32:35 GMT -5
YEah... considering his main power is being a smurfing spatial anomaly so that he can be in 5 places at once, I am not surprise or concerned.
As an X-Men fan, I feel it never should be in main Marvel continuity, It has caused way more problems, given that each section has it's own editorial team, which supposedly controls whos in what, but c'mon, Cap would have done mroe than speak out against the Mutant Registration Act, and the Sentinels.
Way too many flaws.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Apr 26, 2014 13:34:31 GMT -5
He ain't dead. Isn't he supposed to be on RAW Monday? Hide your wives and children! Oh, it's not THAT Wolverine?
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Post by camsamurai06 on Apr 26, 2014 14:10:05 GMT -5
YEah... considering his main power is being a smurfing spatial anomaly so that he can be in 5 places at once, I am not surprise or concerned. As an X-Men fan, I feel it never should be in main Marvel continuity I'm like that with both them and Spider-Man. All the best stuff with him has been in alternate universes these last few years like the newspaper dailes (where he's been married for almost thirty years as opposed to the regulat universes' twenty) and the Spider-Girl canon where he's allowed to actually grow up and raise his kids Mind you, for me X-Men's been dead to me since the Legacy Virus was cured
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Dr. T is an alien
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 26, 2014 14:44:04 GMT -5
How are you even supposed to kill him?? Marvel has shown that pretty much only the complete destruction of every electron that makes up every atom that makes up every molecule of his body must be completely and absolutely destroyed or he'll just regenerate back to life. They've been way too ridiculous with him for me to ever take any "death" he might have seriously. read article: That is just lazy writing. It is a genetic mutation, not some mystic power that he could have taken away. Hal Jordan and Guy Gardner both had stretches where they had no power ring but that is something that can be taken away. Fine by me. Batman gets his damned back broken and must heal for an extended period of time? Also fine. You want to have Spiderman or Hulk develop some form of cancer due to the radiation they were exposed to? I could see that. You want Captain America to develop problems from an enlarged heart? I could see that as well. You want to mess with Superman for half of a year by introducing a new kryptonite that alters his powers or personality? Hell, anything is game now that periwinkle kryptonite is a thing. You want to mess with Wolverine? Why not work with what you got? Find a way to return all of his memories to him (if they haven't done so already). That way he is a human being who has lost damned near everyone he has ever loved in his long life and suffers from a certain lack of ability to progress in his life. He can't grow old with anyone. He can't form any relationships without the knowledge that he will have to watch the ones he comes to love grow old, weak and die. Instead of being the angry animal he has been, make him a tragic man who determines that he should have died 100 years ago and seeks a way to make it happen, Phil Connors-style. Have him test the limits of his healing factor. See if he can exhaust the ability in any way. See how you can have him interact with people who care for him but have no frame of reference of what he is going through. In other words, be creative, you lazy bitches! You want people to buy your comics? Repeating sensationalistic stories done many times will not do it anymore. Do something different! Do something interesting!
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