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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 3, 2014 9:57:17 GMT -5
The irony of Rude is that he never quite ever became a main eventer in WCW either, at least not long term.
Allow me to join in the club and bash the top rope nonsense as well. I hate, loathe, despise the top rope rule crap. There is so much subjective idiocy going on with it on every show. There will be some spot where a guy takes a spill over the top and the announcers then have to waste time trying to figure out whether it is a DQ or not. Yesterday I watched a Clash from 1992 and JR and Jesse constantly were wondering "Oh gee, is that a DQ?" Yet in the Pillman/Liger tag match Pillman rather blatantly suplexes Benoit from the ring to the floor (which was nuts for 1992). Yet JR says "Oh, Pillman was on the outside so it isn't a DQ." WTF? Let's see. A guy tossing one guy over the top in the ring (a typical battle royal spot) is an evil DQ worthy act, yet actually suplexing a man from inside the ring to the floor is perfectly okay?"
This is a major reason why WCW was stupid. WWF never had idiot rules like this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 11:38:49 GMT -5
I had that same exact tape, haha. It's a verifiable Who's Who of Wrestlecrap, with the Chamber match as well as the Windham as Sting deal from 1990. The Coal Miner's Glove "Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal" match is on there. Curiously they left off Vader/Cactus from 1993, which might be the best match ever at a Halloween Havoc! Either that or Eddie/Rey from 1997, which was included. And yes, they had the whole Giant/Hogan 1995 deal with the Yeti and all that insanity. Oh man I loved that tape. I had that one and Best of Bash at the Beach.
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 3, 2014 18:08:09 GMT -5
I had that one too. BATB had a bit less wrestlecrap worthy stuff on it. The 1993 one could have had the mini movie but they just showed the actual tag match, which wasn't bad by any means.
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Post by 67 more on Aug 8, 2014 8:42:04 GMT -5
Updated.
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Post by wildojinx on Aug 10, 2014 16:08:32 GMT -5
Did anyone else cringe when Debra was stripping in the ring and Cole said "Get some EMS out here for the King!"?
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 12, 2014 23:18:25 GMT -5
Watched the show and it was pretty good, but the finish of the world title match having that Dusty Finish, yeah.......that can kiss my ass.
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Post by 67 more on Aug 15, 2014 3:41:46 GMT -5
Late to this one, I know. Couldn't get the Network to work right all week.
Henry/DLo vs Godfather/Val, not too bad of an opener.
Headbangers vs Oddities was shite. Also, what the f*** was that dubbed music? *bicycle ring* What you doing? *clown horn*
Blackman vs Owen was very good. Loved King marking out for Owen catching Blackman with the enzuigiri twice. Shame about the countout finish.
Brood vs JOB Squad was a very fun 6-man. Scorpio's moonsault legdrop always makes me cringe. Snow looked great and Christian dumped Scorpio right on his face with the Unprettier.
Goldust vs Jarrett was meh with a ridiculous Dusty finish just so Debra can get her tits out. She also looked super old and skanky, with a very lacking bra, I must say. Couldn't even finish masturbating to it.
Outlaws vs Corporation is your standard face Outlaws match. Nothing special. Cole's an idiot through the match.
Mankind vs Rock. Cole is an idiot again, for condeming Vince's demand that Mankind be DQed for breaking the rules. The bump that Foley takes off the second rope to the floor is disgusting. Second Dusty finish of the night and a f***ing stupid one. Also, if I'm being a stickler, that ending would have been a technical submission, not a knockout, as it was in response to a submission hold.
Taker vs Austin. I've never liked this match and shit hasn't changed.
Not too bad a PPV at all, 5 stars when compared to that f***ing Breakdown PPV.
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Post by 67 more on Aug 15, 2014 13:38:48 GMT -5
Updated for our second winner of the Second Chance poll.
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Post by 67 more on Aug 15, 2014 17:44:36 GMT -5
Quite excited for this PPV. Haven't watched it for about 5 years, originally had it on the old Delta Music VHS (which had some of the worst dubbed-in themes known to man, but at least they tried to keep the entrances in). Apparently the run time is 2 hrs 5 mins. Stuff's getting cut, isn't it? WWE NETWORK, UNCUT AND UNCENSORED!
I dig the opening music WWE have put over the intro. I'd listen the shit out of that.
I love Joel's promos although I'm glad my nan wasn't watching with me.
Cyrus & Lynn vs York & Matthews was technically a match. The contrast of Joey's dubbed-in commentary is going to get grating.
Doring & Roadkill vs Hot Commodity, entrance is cut (Delta video did not). Fun little match for everyone to get their shit in.
Nova vs Hamrick. Wrestling is sound, ending's a mess. Chetti comes in to make the pin but then it doesn't count then Spike's the ref. Who knows what's going on? Nova probably has the most unfitting dubbed music out of everyone.
Dreamer vs Anderson, entrances are once again cut (again, Delta kept the entrances). Tommy manages to suplex CW in the small space between the blue mats which CW loves every second of. Love Cyrus flipping out when Tommy hits a slingshot splash. This I Quit match has ropebreaks.... f*** it. The delayed superplex is a move that needs to come back. That crossface with the table wire looks f***ing gruesome and we just about got the first two drum hits of Man In The Box before Harry Slash's version hits. You can just about make out the original anyway. Great match.
God, I love Jack Victory. The man was so happy to just be on TV at this point.
3-way tag match and again, entrances are cut (Again, Delta kept them in albeit managed to play the same track for the non-FBI teams). Kash and Mikey blow a spot early very noticably. Kash's twisting somersault plancha is a thing of beauty. Big Sal's too fat to get back under the rope. Cyrus calls German suplexes Tiger suplexes (although Mikey's was an X-Plex which is still more of a German). Yay, the original music got kept in at the end. Replay segment is completely cut out despite the fact I know there was one. Very fun match.
Diamond & Swinger's entrance is cut. Oh look, Meanie has unfitting music too. Faux Big Balls. Botched Problem Solver. Rhyno says f*** this match, I've got Gores to hit and women to piledrive. Props to Jasmine for taking the super piledriver. And then Rhino teleports to the back...
Very lazy edit to suggest that Sandman came out while the announcers gave exposition when I know for a fact Corino came out first. Also, most of Sandman's entrance is cut (while dubbed, it's still epic) as well as Corino and Justin's entrances completely (again, Delta kept them all in with music edits). I feel like Coliseum Video is bringing us this ECW show. Sandman breaks a ladder by climbing it, amazing. Oh, apparently Bossman's here in the Hammerstein. Shit match.
Poor Rhino slipping on his Gore. Sandman does a f***ing great job putting emotion into his "Ring the f***ing bell." He knows he's losing the title and going to get his ass kicked over the belt he's just fought so hard to win back but his family's got to come first. Sandman, you may not be a good wrestler, but that was some great acting.
Progeny just isn't the same as Walk, I'm afraid. The dubbed-over commentary f***ing sucks, it's like a year behind. Jerry Lynn as a heel is weird to see. Fans mark out when some bald douche is escorted out for repeatedly harassing the wrestlers. Lynn pretends that the asshole chants are directed towards him and not the bald douche. Lynn manages to f*** up a schoolboy which is weird. RVD gets super pissed at Gertner not being able to get in position for the Van Terminator. Good match overall, and a fitting way to end ECW.
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Post by 67 more on Aug 22, 2014 13:08:53 GMT -5
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 23, 2014 23:55:24 GMT -5
I'm not lying when I say this, but I find Mark Madden to be the worst heel commentator in pro wrestling history.
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Post by 67 more on Aug 24, 2014 1:47:39 GMT -5
I'm not lying when I say this, but I find Mark Madden to be the worst heel commentator in pro wrestling history. I'm one of the few who doesn't actually mind Madden. He's no worse than current JBL.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Aug 24, 2014 3:15:06 GMT -5
Goldberg and Steiner was a f***ing awesome match.
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Post by wildojinx on Aug 24, 2014 12:22:10 GMT -5
I'm not lying when I say this, but I find Mark Madden to be the worst heel commentator in pro wrestling history. "Face full of stuff!"
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 24, 2014 20:36:32 GMT -5
I'm not lying when I say this, but I find Mark Madden to be the worst heel commentator in pro wrestling history. "Face full of stuff!" "I want to disqualify the ref" "3 Count came back from the Olympics after helping the US Women win the gold for squealing"
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 24, 2014 21:17:41 GMT -5
Kayfabe commentary and wrestling stops immediately after Paul Orndorff's injury as this injury is serious. And the piledriver he gave that caused his injury seemed fine.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 24, 2014 21:25:53 GMT -5
Pittsburgh Plunge Scaffold Match.....falling down into obvious mats.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 24, 2014 21:41:00 GMT -5
Oh God.....The Insane Clown Posse & Mark Madden on commentary. MUTE
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Post by 67 more on Aug 25, 2014 2:49:17 GMT -5
Kayfabe commentary and wrestling stops immediately after Paul Orndorff's injury as this injury is serious. And the piledriver he gave that caused his injury seemed fine. It pisses me off that they wrestle around him while a doctor is physically holding his neck still. So much room for tragedy. Also Scott Hudson goes "People ask us if wrestling is fake...". f***ing stop that, a wrestling programme should never ever mention that it's a work during its main programming.
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Post by DjZonk on Aug 26, 2014 6:30:12 GMT -5
Goldberg vs Steiner was an incredible match and it still holds up today. I remember Goldberg made the PS50 that year solely based on that match.
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