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Post by karl100589 on Dec 6, 2014 20:06:47 GMT -5
So often, 90s Britpop is boiled down to Oasis VS Blur, ignoring Pulp, who for my money were the best of the three by far. Suede were better then any of them, particularly when Bernard Butler was still with the band.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 20:09:50 GMT -5
Recently I relistened to a lot of 2000s emo/pop punk groups and really I don't know why I ever hated them in the first place. Groups like My Chemical Romance, Panic! at the Disco, Fallout Boy, etc. I really thought those groups were the goddamn worst when I was in my teens.
Also not sure if they're underrated as I don't pay attention to what's mainstream that much anymore, but as far as pop music goes I think Marina and the Diamonds, Janelle Monae, Tove Lo, and Ellie Goulding are awesome.
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Post by ERON on Dec 7, 2014 10:43:50 GMT -5
I've believed for years that the Ramones going to England had as big an impact on music as the Beatles coming to America; we here in the States just don't appreciate it because we only experienced the aftereffects. You can also add Enuff Z'Nuff to the list as well....great power pop band who were unfortunately lumped into the hair bands from the era in which they started. I'll see your Enuff Z'Nuff and raise you Saigon Kick.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Dec 7, 2014 10:55:17 GMT -5
So often, 90s Britpop is boiled down to Oasis VS Blur, ignoring Pulp, who for my money were the best of the three by far. Amen Different Classes is an album I still listen to today Although I wouldn't call Blur underrated, I feel "Modern life is Rubbish" is an overlooked album, one of their personal faves of mine.
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Post by metylerca on Dec 7, 2014 11:29:36 GMT -5
Faith No More.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Dec 7, 2014 16:32:28 GMT -5
Buddy Holly. The names that list him as their biggest influence (The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, etc) make him practically the God of rock n'roll songwriting, but most kids probably know him from a Weezer song.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Dec 7, 2014 16:53:42 GMT -5
Rancid
While they did have some success with "And Out Come The Wolves", they haven't really gotten the kind of success that I feel they deserve. Tim Armstrong especially since he's shown that he can do just about any style of music (punk/rockabilly/rap/reggae/folk for starters). I know that some will say that they're overrated and that's fine. I just think of them as a modern-day Clash.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Dec 7, 2014 17:26:24 GMT -5
I've believed for years that the Ramones going to England had as big an impact on music as the Beatles coming to America; we here in the States just don't appreciate it because we only experienced the aftereffects. You can also add Enuff Z'Nuff to the list as well....great power pop band who were unfortunately lumped into the hair bands from the era in which they started. I'll see your Enuff Z'Nuff and raise you Saigon Kick. I'm FB friends with Matt....great guy, and I do agree that the band should've been huge before Jason's ego derailed them.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Dec 7, 2014 21:32:32 GMT -5
King's X....phenomenal musicians and Doug has a great voice, and had the tools to be a BIG deal, but they always seem to fall under the radar for a majority of the mass music media. You can also add Enuff Z'Nuff to the list as well....great power pop band who were unfortunately lumped into the hair bands from the era in which they started. Enuff Z'Nuff had a good power pop sound...but c'mon...look how they dresssed...what did you expect?
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Dec 7, 2014 21:34:20 GMT -5
Fantastic Planet is a god damn amazing album. As far as this sound goes, I'd also have to mention Hum. "Stars" by Hum is one of my favorite songs. And so is "Stuck on You" by Failure. That was one of the best songs of '96.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Dec 7, 2014 23:33:22 GMT -5
King's X....phenomenal musicians and Doug has a great voice, and had the tools to be a BIG deal, but they always seem to fall under the radar for a majority of the mass music media. You can also add Enuff Z'Nuff to the list as well....great power pop band who were unfortunately lumped into the hair bands from the era in which they started. Enuff Z'Nuff had a good power pop sound...but c'mon...look how they dresssed...what did you expect? You're right....I do stand corrected.
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Post by rocket on Dec 8, 2014 8:09:40 GMT -5
So often, 90s Britpop is boiled down to Oasis VS Blur, ignoring Pulp, who for my money were the best of the three by far. That reminds me, Blur in America are just known as one-hit wonders for a song commonplace at sporting events and elsewhere. They don't deserve that fate.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 8, 2014 13:14:08 GMT -5
Weird Al deserves his own wing in the Rock and Roll hall of fame as far as I'm concerned. His live shows are AWESOME.
For more recent acts, Lindsey Stirling puts on an amazing show. I can't recommend seeing her live enough.
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Post by ZERO on Dec 8, 2014 14:08:50 GMT -5
Zwan are pretty much destined to be that thing Billy Corgan did between disbanding and reforming the Smashing Pumpkins. That saddens me.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 8, 2014 14:16:11 GMT -5
Eve 6. They desreved a better fate than 1 really well known song, and one or 2 more that got some play
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Post by Digital Witness on Dec 8, 2014 14:40:20 GMT -5
So often, 90s Britpop is boiled down to Oasis VS Blur, ignoring Pulp, who for my money were the best of the three by far. That reminds me, Blur in America are just known as one-hit wonders for a song commonplace at sporting events and elsewhere. They don't deserve that fate. You're more likely to hear Gorillaz on the radio than Blur, and if you do hear Blur, the likelihood of hearing Song 2 is about 99%. I'm sure there's one station out there that plays Girls and Boys. Blur's one of those bands that just seems to be forgotten with time in the US. Oasis don't get much better either. I don't think Pulp ever had any kind of success here. Moving on from britpop, there are a great many British bands that I'd consider underrated. Catherine Wheel, Ride, Swervedriver, and Lush being among them. There's a whole lot of the early 90s seemingly lost to time.
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Post by RedSmile on Dec 8, 2014 17:33:41 GMT -5
Ok, I could spend the rest of my life in this thread. There are a ton of underground and underrated bands in heavy metal.
But I shall start with a band from Ukraine called Sad Alice Said.
Sad Alice Said can be described as a gothic metal/rock band that utilize pianos, keyboards, violin, and female vocals amongst the traditional metal instruments. The band is the project of Alisa Shakor, whom also serves as lead singer. Alisa has a really seductive and exotic voice, with her Ukrainian accent. The band has only been active since 2011, and has released a single EP, Clock of Eternity, and a couple of singles; but their video for the song Open Your Eyes has a ton of plays on Youtube. I guess it helps that Alisa is also pretty damn gorgeous, as is keyboardist Julia Balan.
Fun band.
Sample tracks for your listening pleasure:
Open Your Eyes:
Alive:
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Dec 8, 2014 23:48:43 GMT -5
Weird Al deserves his own wing in the Rock and Roll hall of fame as far as I'm concerned. His live shows are AWESOME. I came here to say Al. I've stated this in other threads, but it does bear repeating...only 3 artists have charted singles in the Top 40 in each of the last 4 decades. Madonna, Michael Jackson and "Weird Al" Yankovic. The man isn't just a comedy legend, but a music legend. And you hear people saying that what he does is silly and/or easy. Really? Let's see YOU be a multi-Grammy, Multi-Platinum, chart-topping, movie-making, dude who has never made an enemy in show business all while singing about food, television, Star Wars and f***ed up tourist traps. Seriously, there are people in the f***ing HALL OF FAME whose careers were *decades* shorter than his. Give the man what he deserves.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Dec 9, 2014 3:13:13 GMT -5
Oasis = Dismissed as being a clone of The Beatles. Those who never bothered to listen to the rest of (What's The Story?) Morning Glory - the band's breakthrough album in North America - wrote the band off as something of a one hit wonder after hearing "Wonderwall" and "Champagne Supernova."
Marilyn Manson = Dismissed as a band that only became relevant for relying on 'shock rock' tactics/lyrics and for making use of spooky and fascist imagery.
KoRn = Maligned for kick-starting the 'nu-metal' phenomena that took off in the late 90s. KoRn were 'untouchable' for a reason: The band innovated and took chances. It got noticed because it did something different (The fact that its songs featured tribal beats and death metal growls - things unheard of in mainstream rock - also helped to get KoRn noticed by audiences that never really gave bands like Sepultura a chance). KoRn were 'Untouchable' innovators in the nu-metal sub-genre; the crappy, derivative imitators were just that.
Aerosmith = Formerly dismissed as an American rip-off of The Rolling Stones. Was that accusation based purely on the fact that both bands played hard rock/blues rock and featured front men with giant mouths?
Spinerette and Brody Dalle = Maligned by Rancid and Tim Armstrong fanboys who let the fact that she broke up with Tim Armstrong (of Rancid) get in the way of appreciating the work she's done since leaving her ex-husband. Some of the stuff she recorded in Spinerette is incredible!!!
Guns N' Roses = So many people have crapped on this band for soldiering on after Slash left. Chinese Democracy is criminally overlooked and was seriously under-promoted by the time it was finally released. Yes, the sound is different than Appetite, but so was Use Your Illusion. Like UYI, Chinese Democracy rocks and showcases incredible risks with mostly positive results.
Pearl Jam = People whined about the fact that the band didn't copy the sound of Ten (the debut album) by the time the band released its third album. Maybe the new stuff wasn't your thing, but at least respect the band for taking chances that clearly aren't being done for ostensibly commercial reasons (read: 'selling out').
Michael Jackson = Although Dangerous sold well, it didn't sell nearly as well as Jackson's two previous albums, and people said he was losing his touch. Overall, I actually prefer Dangerous to Thriller and Bad. Don't even get me started on how overlooked Jackson's (excellent) HIStory was; too much of the public bought into the Evan Chandler smear campaign against Jackson and let the allegations against the artist interfere with their ability to give the album a fair chance.
Weezer = Pinkerton is a masterpiece, yet it was derided as a failure by the majority of those who heard it when it came out.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Dec 9, 2014 4:07:37 GMT -5
Recently I relistened to a lot of 2000s emo/pop punk groups and really I don't know why I ever hated them in the first place. Groups like My Chemical Romance, Panic! at the Disco, Fallout Boy, etc. I really thought those groups were the goddamn worst when I was in my teens. I thought I was the only one who hated them. Maybe there would have been less supposed hate if they chose better names for themselves.
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