Roman Reigns is Superstar of the Year

[Johnny B. Decent]

Dec 9, 2014 16:33:07 GMT -5 Bruce Mother Wayne said:

Dec 9, 2014 16:25:35 GMT -5 The Captain said:

and his moves have a real impact to them.

Of course they do, all of his moves are impact moves.

All four of them, too.

[Crappler El 0 M]

I was surprised and already said I initially thought it could be WWE overruling the fan vote, but the more I think about it, the more I think it's just as likely he really won. When you add so many choices and give just a few minutes for fans to vote, really anything is possible. If I recall, there were eight choices: Brock, Cena, Bryan, Orton, Rollins, Reigns, Wyatt, and Ambrose. With that many choices, the man with the most votes could have won with a smaller percentage compared to the other categories. It's possible that many hardcore fans split their vote between Bryan, Ambrose, and Rollins. The superstar in second place could have been very close to Reigns. I think it is possible Reigns could have won with like 29 percent of the vote or something just because there were so many options. Perhaps if you removed Wyatt, Rollins, and Ambrose from the poll, Reigns would not have won. Who knows?

[Surfer Sandman]

Daniel Bryan was buried...again.

I don't like Reigns. Ambrose is the true star of the Shield.

[wcc2]

Dec 9, 2014 17:54:36 GMT -5 Crappler El 0 M said:

I was surprised and already said I initially thought it could be WWE overruling the fan vote, but the more I think about it, the more I think it's just as likely he really won. When you add so many choices and give just a few minutes for fans to vote, really anything is possible. If I recall, there were eight choices: Brock, Cena, Bryan, Orton, Rollins, Reigns, Wyatt, and Ambrose. With that many choices, the man with the most votes could have won with a smaller percentage compared to the other categories. It's possible that many hardcore fans split their vote between Bryan, Ambrose, and Rollins. The superstar in second place could have been very close to Reigns. I think it is possible Reigns could have won with like 29 percent of the vote or something just because there were so many options. Perhaps if you removed Wyatt, Rollins, and Ambrose from the poll, Reigns would not have won. Who knows?

Good grief. 

Maybe he's just actually popular with the WWE fans?

[wcc2]

Dec 9, 2014 17:43:33 GMT -5 kidglov3s said:

Dec 9, 2014 17:25:03 GMT -5 wcc2 said:

Maaaaaan this thread is everything that is wrong with this forum, and internet wrestling fans in general.

When people want to use the 'The term IWC is redundant because we aren't a hive mind!' argument line, just take a look at this thread. It may not be a 100% opinion all one way, but there is a clear vibe of 'Reigns is being forced down our throats' and 'he's going to get booed out of the building because fans will reject him.'

Ummm, no. There is absolutely sod all evidence for this, only the pre-conceived notion of a certain section of the fan base that seems to want to delude themselves into not listening what is happening in the arenas. The fans go ABSOLUTELY NUTS for Roman Reigns. He has presence and charisma that means he only has to shoot someone a look and it will make the fans go crazy. Suck it up IWC, because it's the truth.

If he gets booed in a few smark towns, it doesn't matter, because those towns will boo any WWE top guy that didn't make it on the indies first. Or maybe they didn't make it on the indies but they've had enough time in the mid-card being 'held down' so it became fashionable for smarks to cheer for them. This section of fans always want to feel like they are bucking the system.

WWE always create new stars, and yet always get chastised for not doing so. They are putting the machine behind Reigns. The live crowds love him. Don't let your pre-conceived prejudices get in the way of what is happening in reality. It looks very sad if you do.

Funny you can see back and forth all through this thread, back and forth that you're taking part in, and then make the hivemind accusation.

Ok, let me put it another way. I'm taking aim at the deluded people that like to imagine there's a Reigns backlash / the fans are rejecting Reigns when actual evidence points completely to the contrary.

[Crappler El 0 M]

Dec 9, 2014 18:29:07 GMT -5 wcc2 said:

Dec 9, 2014 17:54:36 GMT -5 Crappler El 0 M said:

I was surprised and already said I initially thought it could be WWE overruling the fan vote, but the more I think about it, the more I think it's just as likely he really won. When you add so many choices and give just a few minutes for fans to vote, really anything is possible. If I recall, there were eight choices: Brock, Cena, Bryan, Orton, Rollins, Reigns, Wyatt, and Ambrose. With that many choices, the man with the most votes could have won with a smaller percentage compared to the other categories. It's possible that many hardcore fans split their vote between Bryan, Ambrose, and Rollins. The superstar in second place could have been very close to Reigns. I think it is possible Reigns could have won with like 29 percent of the vote or something just because there were so many options. Perhaps if you removed Wyatt, Rollins, and Ambrose from the poll, Reigns would not have won. Who knows?

Good grief. 

Maybe he's just actually popular with the WWE fans?

So is Cena among a portion of the audience. So is Bryan. So is Ambrose. My point was that having eight choices and a quick window of time makes me think it is more likely that Reigns did actually win the vote. Many people were skeptical with the vote. After I thought about it more, I thought it was actually quite possible that Reigns's win was legitimate. Can you really argue with my points about how giving eight options and a short voting window making it more possible for Reigns to win? I am not saying WWE designed it this way deliberately to try to effect the decision.

I'm not trying to make excuses or explain away something. I'm just putting thought into the situation and giving an opinion.

[Fiddleford H. McGucket]

Dec 9, 2014 18:29:07 GMT -5 wcc2 said:

Dec 9, 2014 17:54:36 GMT -5 Crappler El 0 M said:

I was surprised and already said I initially thought it could be WWE overruling the fan vote, but the more I think about it, the more I think it's just as likely he really won. When you add so many choices and give just a few minutes for fans to vote, really anything is possible. If I recall, there were eight choices: Brock, Cena, Bryan, Orton, Rollins, Reigns, Wyatt, and Ambrose. With that many choices, the man with the most votes could have won with a smaller percentage compared to the other categories. It's possible that many hardcore fans split their vote between Bryan, Ambrose, and Rollins. The superstar in second place could have been very close to Reigns. I think it is possible Reigns could have won with like 29 percent of the vote or something just because there were so many options. Perhaps if you removed Wyatt, Rollins, and Ambrose from the poll, Reigns would not have won. Who knows?

Good grief. 

Maybe he's just actually popular with the WWE fans?

I doubt that he's actually unpopular, but with a combination of sidelining injury and a shallow movepool he hasn't DONE that much to be considered as "Superstar of the year.

Since the Shield's dissolution, he's been in Multi-Man matches and his sole solo "main event" was a middle of the card match against Randy Orton. Since then he's been out of action.

My issue is a simple one. A Superstar SHOULD have it all, they should be able to put on good matches consistently with a variety of opponents AND be able to cut a coherent, engaging, and convincing promo.  To me, Roman has about 75% of the first bit down. He's hindered by booking and the fact that he does a "Big Man" moveset with little variation. The latter bit....not so much. I'm not convinced by a Roman Reigns promo. He sounds forced when he tries to be threatenng and as if he's being puppeted by somebody else when he tries to be anything else.  My hope is he improves before we get the inevitable (If WWE has its way) Roman Reigns championship push and run

[Confused Mark Wahlberg]

So for a whole year, Roman will be the Reign-ing superstar?

Get it?  'Reign-ing'?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps]

I think anyone who wasn't in the Summerslam main event falls short of being the Superstar Of The Year.

That includes Heyman, I think he'd have a good case if managers could be nominated.

[Mikoto Misaka]

Doesn't bother me.

[BigWill]

Dec 9, 2014 17:42:21 GMT -5 Jeff Mangum PI said:

Word is that the fan voting for last night's WWE Slammy Awards was 100% legitimate. The WWE App reportedly received a ton of traffic and it held up well throughout the voting.


-PWInsider

What was that about an inevitable Roman Reigns backlash again?

Are they insinuating that it's not legitimate every year?

[Richard]

Dec 9, 2014 18:30:22 GMT -5 wcc2 said:

Dec 9, 2014 17:43:33 GMT -5 kidglov3s said:

Funny you can see back and forth all through this thread, back and forth that you're taking part in, and then make the hivemind accusation.

Ok, let me put it another way. I'm taking aim at the deluded people that like to imagine there's a Reigns backlash / the fans are rejecting Reigns when actual evidence points completely to the contrary.

So you're flaming and baiting people, really the board as a whole, despite how long you've been here and known the rules? Come on.

[Richard]

Dec 9, 2014 19:27:15 GMT -5 BigWill said:

Dec 9, 2014 17:42:21 GMT -5 Jeff Mangum PI said:

What was that about an inevitable Roman Reigns backlash again?

Are they insinuating that it's not legitimate every year?

They have said for the last few years it is a legit vote.

[Dave the Dave]

I don't like Reigns. I didn't when he was "that quiet guy in the Shield" and I didn't when he was starting his mega push.

Even I feel for the guy a bit with some of the comments I'm seeing about him. I'm willing to put him in my "Cena" zone where even though I don't "like" him, I'm fine with watching him because he's really really trying and improving.

I hope Roman does that. I think he will. He seems commited. I just don't want him to stagnate and still be the man. That would be the most disappointing thing that could happen.

[percymania]

Meh. My vote was for Seth Rollins.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

I voted for Kodos!

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

For what it's worth, Roman could become the best worker of this generation. I would still talk shit about him because I talk shit about everyone. I would hope that's kinda obvious by now.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Dec 9, 2014 17:42:21 GMT -5 Jeff Mangum PI said:

Word is that the fan voting for last night's WWE Slammy Awards was 100% legitimate. The WWE App reportedly received a ton of traffic and it held up well throughout the voting.


-PWInsider

What was that about an inevitable Roman Reigns backlash again?

Well, there will be a Roman Reigns Backlash.

WWE is bringing back Backlash next year and Roman Reigns is gonna headline! BELIVE DAT!

[Sparkybob]

Dec 9, 2014 22:23:03 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

For what it's worth, Roman could become the best worker of this generation. I would still talk shit about him because I talk shit about everyone. I would hope that's kinda obvious by now.

If you dare to talk shit about my favorite wrestlers I'll f****** cut you.

[Fauxnaki]

Dec 9, 2014 19:21:06 GMT -5 Mikoto Misaka said:

Doesn't bother me.

well good for you