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Post by Woo on Apr 12, 2015 4:27:10 GMT -5
So the Rock is famous for having a great movie career since qutting as a wrestler having appeared in 3 Fast & the Furious movies but is he the best wrestling movie star? I mean besides the three Fast & Furious movies all of his movies are rated Rotten on Rotten Tomatoes with the exception of Welcome to the Jungle and Hercules (which just avoids being rotten by 1%!).
Obviously before the Rock came Hulk Hogan who has appeared in a lot of largely terrible movies but he did show up in Rocky III which is a popular franchise and Gremlins II which is a fun movie.
The latest is of course is Dave Batista who just appeared in critical and box office success Guardians of the Galaxy and is going to follow that up by being a part of movie history when he appears as the main henchman in the latest James Bond film Spectre. With just these two movies some are already saying his career In Hollywood has eclipsed the rest.
The James Bond series will live forever and Rocky is still a hugely popular series, but then so still is Predator the first of which starred Jesse Ventura who steals every scene he is in and has almost all of the iconic quotes from the film "I don't have time to bleed"; "I'm a sexual Tyranasaurs!". Ventura would also appear in popular Arnie movie the Running Man too.
Another actor who keeps seeming to get roles in fairly big movies is Kevin Nash. His role as Super Shredder is well known but he's also turned up in the Punisher in a memorable scene and been an aging stripper in Magic Mike.
Then we have Andre the Giant and Rowdy Roddy Piper. Both of them have appeared in a couple and only really have 1 standout movie each, but their one great films are complete cult classics and on that alone allows them to rival the rest of this list. Rowdy Roddy Piper stars as the main character in John Carpenter's 'They Live' and gets to have one of cinema's best, funniest fight scenes and gets to say what went on to become an iconic catchphrase "I'm here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of gum."
Andre meanwhile appears in The Princess Bride, which is a beloved movie the world over (who doesn't love the "My name is indigo Montoya, you killed my Father, prepare to die?" scene or the many great quotes like "Inconceivable!") and perhaps second only to Predator as the most popular movie which stars a wrestler?
So who's had the best career out of this lost? Or maybe it's Austin or HHH? Great Khali or Luther Reigns? Big Show or Jerry Lawler? Maybe Edge gets a nod for his TV work on Haven? Vote!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 4:34:15 GMT -5
Obviously Rock.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 12, 2015 4:37:42 GMT -5
Hogan. He was Mr Nanny.
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Post by Germansuplex on Apr 12, 2015 4:47:53 GMT -5
As much as I hate to say it, but Dave's movie career has already surpassed Rock's. Guardians and Bond are bigger deals than all Fast & Furiouses combined.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 4:51:00 GMT -5
As much as I hate to say it, but Dave's movie career has already surpassed Rock's. Guardians and Bond are bigger deals than all Fast & Furiouses combined. Furious 7 broke records for the biggest April release ever, so it's just as important a franchise now
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 4:52:37 GMT -5
Rock for consistency and money then Batista.
Hogan and Ventura, etc do not compare.
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Post by Woo on Apr 12, 2015 4:52:40 GMT -5
As much as I hate to say it, but Dave's movie career has already surpassed Rock's. Guardians and Bond are bigger deals than all Fast & Furiouses combined. That was my reasoning too. The Rock was been in a lot and paid a lot for them, but all but a handful have been critical failures and even then some of the others have had lukewarm praise at best. Not the Rock's fault as he has often been the best part in terrible films. So for me it comes down to the three Fast & The Furious movies against a Bond film and a Marvel movie. And Fast & The Furious can not compete with 60 years of Bond films or the Marvel empire.
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Post by Bad Moon on Apr 12, 2015 4:58:19 GMT -5
Ventura was in Predator. Nobody can compare.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 12, 2015 4:58:21 GMT -5
As much as I hate to say it, but Dave's movie career has already surpassed Rock's. Guardians and Bond are bigger deals than all Fast & Furiouses combined. That was my reasoning too. The Rock was been in a lot and paid a lot for them, but all but a handful have been critical failures and even then some of the others have had lukewarm praise at best. Not the Rock's fault as he has often been the best part in terrible films. So for me it comes down to the three Fast & The Furious movies against a Bond film and a Marvel movie. And Fast & The Furious can not compete with 60 years of Bond films or the Marvel empire. My counter to that is what were their roles in those films? Batista is in the Marvel Universe and the Bond franchise, but as at best a 3rd or 4th tier character. The Rock is the guy you put on the poster to make more people come, he's a leading man, Batista's so far just a guy you call for a big, tough looking guy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 5:00:04 GMT -5
Who would ever had thought Batista would have had a successful movie career?
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Post by Woo on Apr 12, 2015 5:02:28 GMT -5
That was my reasoning too. The Rock was been in a lot and paid a lot for them, but all but a handful have been critical failures and even then some of the others have had lukewarm praise at best. Not the Rock's fault as he has often been the best part in terrible films. So for me it comes down to the three Fast & The Furious movies against a Bond film and a Marvel movie. And Fast & The Furious can not compete with 60 years of Bond films or the Marvel empire. My counter to that is what were their roles in those films? Batista is in the Marvel Universe and the Bond franchise, but as at best a 3rd or 4th tier character. The Rock is the guy you put on the poster to make more people come, he's a leading man, Batista's so far just a guy you call for a big, tough looking guy. Batista is one of the main characters in Guardians of the Galaxy and the Bond's henchman will mean he is one of the main 4 characters in that film most likely too (though Daniel Craig's henchman have been worthless thus far). The Rock is also roughly in the same spot the F&F movies right?
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 12, 2015 5:09:58 GMT -5
My counter to that is what were their roles in those films? Batista is in the Marvel Universe and the Bond franchise, but as at best a 3rd or 4th tier character. The Rock is the guy you put on the poster to make more people come, he's a leading man, Batista's so far just a guy you call for a big, tough looking guy. Batista is one of the main characters in Guardians of the Galaxy and the Bond's henchman will mean he is one of the main 4 characters in that film most likely too (though Daniel Craig's henchman have been worthless thus far). The Rock is also roughly in the same spot the F&F movies right? Starlord Gamora Groot Rocket Raccoon Ronan He's not a main character, he's as much a main character as Nebula, a 2nd banana, he's Joey in Friends, he's in the group, but he's not a major part. He owned it, stole a lot of scenes, but he wasn't that big a deal overall. As for henchmen, as you say, the henchmen haven't been great with Daniel Craig, heck, out of all the movies, most people can name like, 3 henchmen, they're not big players. When he's front and centre of the marketing, then he can say he's on The Rock's level. There's nothing bad about it, but he's not in that position yet.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Apr 12, 2015 5:16:27 GMT -5
El Santo.
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Post by Woo on Apr 12, 2015 5:25:54 GMT -5
Batista is one of the main characters in Guardians of the Galaxy and the Bond's henchman will mean he is one of the main 4 characters in that film most likely too (though Daniel Craig's henchman have been worthless thus far). The Rock is also roughly in the same spot the F&F movies right? Starlord Gamora Groot Rocket Raccoon Ronan He's not a main character, he's as much a main character as Nebula, a 2nd banana, he's Joey in Friends, he's in the group, but he's not a major part. He owned it, stole a lot of scenes, but he wasn't that big a deal overall. As for henchmen, as you say, the henchmen haven't been great with Daniel Craig, heck, out of all the movies, most people can name like, 3 henchmen, they're not big players. When he's front and centre of the marketing, then he can say he's on The Rock's level. There's nothing bad about it, but he's not in that position yet. Going to have to disagree on that. Even little parts in Bond films go on to become famous on account of being in a Bond movie. Dr Kaufman appears in just one scene in Tomorrow Never Dies, but it's a hugely popular one. Oddjob, Jaws, Red Grant, Baron Samedi, Nick Nack, Xeina Onnatop, Borris, May Day etc have gone on to become iconic roles. Batista is now in a very elite group. The fact they are making such a big deal of Dave being cast in the role gives me hope he'll be treated better than recent henchman like Elvis. The Rock was only around the 5th or 6th main character in Fast Five too, which was less than Batista's credit in GotG.
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Post by 4real on Apr 12, 2015 6:23:05 GMT -5
At the moment it's The Rock, if Batista can keep up these roles over the next few years or so then he may well surpass The Rock. Star power wise he still is nowhere near The Rock anyway.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Apr 12, 2015 6:28:35 GMT -5
The Rock deserves credit for having a sustained Hollywood career but in my opinion but he's yet to do a film I love or even really like.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Apr 12, 2015 6:37:22 GMT -5
I'd have voted for Hulk Hogan, but I WAS FROZEN TODAY!
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 12, 2015 6:37:31 GMT -5
The difference between Rock and Batista is Rock's the one selling/carrying the film, Dave isn't
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 12, 2015 6:57:56 GMT -5
As much as I hate to say it, but Dave's movie career has already surpassed Rock's. Guardians and Bond are bigger deals than all Fast & Furiouses combined. The Rock can headline a movie and have it do well, while Batista isn't there yet. He's someone who's surprisingly good as part of an ensemble cast as Rock was at that stage in his career, I'm sure a vehicle for Batista as a lead can't be too far off so we'll see if he has genuine star power then.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 7:54:20 GMT -5
The Rock has been nicknamed "franchise Viagra" by Hollywood.
I think The Rock wins.
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