AFN: Judge Shred
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Nov 21, 2015 1:31:49 GMT -5
The new trying to get people to turn on Bayley fad needs to die. Not liking her finisher means they want people to turn on her? I think it is more that it always starts with one our two things around here before it escalates to "this wrestler sucks." It is a pretty common trend we have had. |
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Nov 21, 2015 1:47:12 GMT -5
The new trying to get people to turn on Bayley fad needs to die. Oh behave! Did Eva try to turn on Bayley? |
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Nov 21, 2015 4:33:54 GMT -5
Whether it was the Shane Douglas version or the Scott Steiner version, I'm a mark for such a simple yet effective move. |
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Nov 21, 2015 4:34:20 GMT -5
The new trying to get people to turn on Bayley fad needs to die. Yup This is why we can't have nice things |
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 21, 2015 4:44:00 GMT -5
I'll say this. If she does get another finisher, I'd like if she still kept the move as part of her moveset. It's good, and it fits her gimmick. Besides, doesn't she also have a submission finisher too that she occasionally uses? I guess she could also use that facebuster she used as Davina Rose, but I don't know if it really suits her now, and it looks easy to botch, while one of the strengths of this is that there's very little the recipient can do to f*** it up.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Nov 21, 2015 4:55:42 GMT -5
I'll say this. If she does get another finisher, I'd like if she still kept the move as part of her moveset. It's good, and it fits her gimmick. Besides, doesn't she also have a submission finisher too that she occasionally uses? I guess she could also use that facebuster she used as Davina Rose, but I don't know if it really suits her now, and it looks easy to botch, while one of the strengths of this is that there's very little the recipient can do to f*** it up. I think she did the Rings of Saturn during the Iron Woman match, could've just been like, a counterpart of the Bank Statement though. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 21, 2015 6:06:15 GMT -5
Who cares? It's over.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Nov 21, 2015 6:30:09 GMT -5
I'll say this. If she does get another finisher, I'd like if she still kept the move as part of her moveset. It's good, and it fits her gimmick. Besides, doesn't she also have a submission finisher too that she occasionally uses? I guess she could also use that facebuster she used as Davina Rose, but I don't know if it really suits her now, and it looks easy to botch, while one of the strengths of this is that there's very little the recipient can do to f*** it up. Looking at the 1-2-3-Floor (yep, that's what it was called)... Looks unique enough in that it's sort of like a reverse Sling Blade, but yes there's a high margin of error. Cherry Bomb ends up taking it the wrong way completely on one of the volumes I've got. |
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The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 21, 2015 9:08:16 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of any kind of suplex as a finisher.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 21, 2015 10:59:46 GMT -5
The Worm was over, didn't make it a good finisher. The Bayley-to-Belly is a weak finisher. If someone like The Miz or Brie was using it, people would be shitting all over it as a finishing move. Plus, Bayley isn't big enough for a move like that to work. If it was Big E or Ryback I could perhaps buy it putting people away for the 3 count because they're built like tanks. But Bayley... nah. www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTK_G7pV-JcHow anyone can say that piece of shite is an effective finisher is beyond me. |
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 21, 2015 12:48:28 GMT -5
I'll say this. If she does get another finisher, I'd like if she still kept the move as part of her moveset. It's good, and it fits her gimmick. Besides, doesn't she also have a submission finisher too that she occasionally uses? I guess she could also use that facebuster she used as Davina Rose, but I don't know if it really suits her now, and it looks easy to botch, while one of the strengths of this is that there's very little the recipient can do to f*** it up. It should be the set up for another move. Most weak finishers have two components. Hogan's leg drop had the big boot, Rock's elbow had the spinebuster. She should B2B and then an additional move, like an anaconda vice or something. |
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Nov 21, 2015 12:49:36 GMT -5
Sasha makes that move look good though.
I'd like her to get a new finish for move evolution sake, but not because I don't like the B2B.
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Woo
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Post by Woo on Nov 21, 2015 13:13:40 GMT -5
Hogan used a leg drop, Rock used an standing elbow drop and Warrior used a splash. The Bayley to Belly is fine.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 21, 2015 13:21:47 GMT -5
Hogan used a leg drop, Rock used an standing elbow drop and Warrior used a splash. The Bayley to Belly is fine. I just mentioned how those were combo moves not two posts ago. It wasn't just a leg drop, there was a big boot first, it wasn't just an elbow there was a spine buster first. Both of those are finishers in their own right. And like the AA many people have complained about Warrior's splash being a weak finisher but that also had a set up. |
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Post by Woo on Nov 21, 2015 13:24:47 GMT -5
Hogan used a leg drop, Rock used an standing elbow drop and Warrior used a splash. The Bayley to Belly is fine. I just mentioned how those were combo moves not two posts ago. It wasn't just a leg drop, there was a big boot first, it wasn't just an elbow there was a spine buster first. Both of those are finishers in their own right. And like the AA many people have complained about Warrior's splash being a weak finisher but that also had a set up. The combo stuff seems like a bit of a stretch to me. So Scotty's finisher was a bulldog and then the fist drop whilst Jake Roberts finisher was a short-arm-clothesline into a DDT. I honestly don't think it matters. If the move is over, it's good enough. |
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 21, 2015 13:28:36 GMT -5
I just mentioned how those were combo moves not two posts ago. It wasn't just a leg drop, there was a big boot first, it wasn't just an elbow there was a spine buster first. Both of those are finishers in their own right. And like the AA many people have complained about Warrior's splash being a weak finisher but that also had a set up. I honestly don't think it matters. If the move is over, it's good enough. To some people it doesn't matter, but others have a hard time suspending disbelief for a move that's so standard and weak looking. It's over in NXT but I doubt it would be on the main roster. |
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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Nov 21, 2015 14:01:34 GMT -5
Hogan used a leg drop, Rock used an standing elbow drop and Warrior used a splash. The Bayley to Belly is fine. A 300+ pound man jumping as high as he can and landing thigh first across my throat? I can buy that. A near 300 pound man jumping as high as he can and landing on my sternum after press slamming me from almost 7 feet in the air? I can believe that as well. The People's Elbow, eh, its more rubbing salt in the wound after a Rock Bottom or Spinebuster. But a belly to belly suplex from a 115-130 pound woman? I'm sorry, I can't suspend my disbelief enough. Especially since its been used as a transitional move for the entirety I've watched wrestling. |
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Nov 21, 2015 14:17:44 GMT -5
I like it. She gets a good snap to it, reminds me more of one you'd see in an amateur wrestling competition or MMA, going for impact over flash & distance. I've seen belly-to-belly suplexes finish MMA matches, so I've no problems buying B2B as a legit finisher. Everyone's favourite Meximerican won one of his MMA matches by Belly to Belly. Granted, that's because he broke the dude's arm, but still! And then he got his head kicked off. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 21, 2015 15:04:31 GMT -5
The Worm was over, didn't make it a good finisher. The Bayley-to-Belly is a weak finisher. If someone like The Miz or Brie was using it, people would be shitting all over it as a finishing move. Plus, Bayley isn't big enough for a move like that to work. If it was Big E or Ryback I could perhaps buy it putting people away for the 3 count because they're built like tanks. But Bayley... nah. www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTK_G7pV-JcHow anyone can say that piece of shite is an effective finisher is beyond me. And now I want to see Miz do a side belly to belly. |
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Post by Starshine on Nov 21, 2015 16:36:05 GMT -5
The Worm was over, didn't make it a good finisher. The Bayley-to-Belly is a weak finisher. If someone like The Miz or Brie was using it, people would be shitting all over it as a finishing move. Plus, Bayley isn't big enough for a move like that to work. If it was Big E or Ryback I could perhaps buy it putting people away for the 3 count because they're built like tanks. But Bayley... nah. www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTK_G7pV-JcHow anyone can say that piece of shite is an effective finisher is beyond me. And now I want to see Miz do a side belly to belly. Speaking of shite moves, it would be an improvement over the Skull Crushing Finale. |
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