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Post by ManInGauze on Dec 24, 2015 6:02:02 GMT -5
He sucks. Bar none. Easily the worst wrestler WWE's had in a long time. He's absolute garbage.
Ok dude I get opinions and all, but this is just straight wrong
I can name a ton of wrestlers Bray is better than on the roster right now. He's not the crispest of workers but I think that is kind of the point. He has had countless great matches in his WWE Tenure, and quite frankly is at least the second best worker in his own faction, I'd put Harper above him if I had a vote.
If you hate Wyatt, fine, but there is a point where your hatred turns silly, and that is it...
Being a better worker than Erick Rowan and Braun f***ing Stowman is not an accomplishment. It's a shame that a great worker like Harper has to be saddled with those chucklef***s to be perfectly honest, but that's just me. The point is that his character and his matches are all dumb and awful. This is a gimmick that belongs in the New Generation era along with the Godwinns or something. Awful, awful matchs, promos that would make any fedora tipping neckbeard blush, and holy shit do we really need more fatasses in wrestling? At least Kevin Owens can actually work. Give me one meaningful Bray Wyatt feud. Give me one good match that he's had that doesn't involved tag teams or weapons. Blame it on Creative all you want, but it takes too to tango. He's just as much to blame as the dumbass writers are, but oh wait? Doesn't he write his own promos or something? If that's the case, then yeah no he's pretty much destined to flounder because he's just awful. The only worthwhile thing about him is his theme song. That's about it.
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Post by 111111 on Dec 24, 2015 6:03:37 GMT -5
He sucks. Bar none. Easily the worst wrestler WWE's had in a long time. He's absolute garbage. Go back and watch his match with Bryan from the royal rumble a few years ago and see if you still think that.......
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 24, 2015 12:13:41 GMT -5
those children wear sheep masks and sing to John Cena.. We are going to have to disagree on that one... I found that super lame.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2015 16:52:27 GMT -5
those children wear sheep masks and sing to John Cena.. We are going to have to disagree on that one... I found that super lame. Especially with the stupid vocal distortions and the emphasis on "He's got the whole world in his hands" part of the song. Give it up for WWE on how to take something somewhat creative and butchering it in record time.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 24, 2015 18:32:57 GMT -5
We are going to have to disagree on that one... I found that super lame. Especially with the stupid vocal distortions and the emphasis on "He's got the whole world in his hands" part of the song. Give it up for WWE on how to take something somewhat creative and butchering it in record time. the sheep mask kids choir was fine, but the kid with the distorted voice helping Bray win was pretty stupid, even for him.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 24, 2015 18:46:52 GMT -5
The Wyatts don't work as guys who are just another part of the roster. Every year, WWE should do a major multi-month long angle like a season of TV with a new big bad. That's what they should have been. A major threat, an ever growing cult attacking all the faces, until eventually they have to stand together to oppose them.
This format creates multi-roles for many different wrestlers like the leader of the big bad, his allies and mooks, his muscle, his girl etc, and new recruits which could give guys who are otherwise doing nothing, something useful to do. The same also applies to the good guys. Stars have new threats to fight, new talent can be given a higher profile, and stale guys have a chance to participate in a structured major storyline.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2015 20:47:35 GMT -5
According to Wyatt's twitter Monday they're going to begin to bring down "the machine" so I hope they get something major to sink their teeth into.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 24, 2015 21:30:26 GMT -5
Stephanie will have a new person to slap on Monday
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 24, 2015 21:34:49 GMT -5
Stephanie will have a new person to slap on Monday I wanna see her try, only for Bray to laugh at her face and Braun slowly appears behind her. He never attacks, but surely that'll intimidate.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 24, 2015 22:00:20 GMT -5
Stephanie will have a new person to slap on Monday Their thick beards will cushion the blow, so her only resort would be an overhead slap to Rowan's bald head.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 24, 2015 22:13:54 GMT -5
Stephanie will have a new person to slap on Monday I wanna see her try, only for Bray to laugh at her face. Just because he has a beard doesn't make him Daniel Bryan Also I think we all know what who he means by the machine... {Spoiler}
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Post by foxylady79 on Dec 25, 2015 2:31:31 GMT -5
According to Wyatt's twitter Monday they're going to begin to bring down "the machine" so I hope they get something major to sink their teeth into. They're going to feud with Kane?
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Post by benstudd on Dec 25, 2015 5:55:23 GMT -5
I think I'm done with every wrestler on the roster. Seriously nobody gets me excited by their work right now.
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Post by King Devitt on Dec 25, 2015 8:28:35 GMT -5
Honestly a lot of Bray's problems could be resolved if he would, 1), cut a different promo once in awhile, 2), win a feud of consequence every now and then, 3), stop trying to make the look darker and edgier and just winding up making it look dumber (like the red pants or those stupid horns) and 4), stop being used as a deus ex machina when you need a face to lose and not get a rematch afterward. I still wouldn't be his biggest fan, but those four things would help him a ton. And those problems could be solved if he was written better. Vince has no clue what he has on his hands. The potential in Wyatt is ridiculous. So much so that he arrived and was instantly credible. He still hasn't recovered from the Cena feud, before that he was on fire. Hell the Wyatt Family and Shield stood in the ring at their booked best and got a "this is awesome" chant without even touching. Because they were all well written. Wyatt could be THE quintessential Jake meets Undertaker creepy heel, but they don't know how to write to his strengths, or his character. Put it to you this way, imagine Bray Wyatt in the creative hands of Paul Heyman. Every single time this thread comes up, I will continue to defend the man. To quote Snitsky, it's not his fault. In my opinion it's Vince and creative your done with OP. As are most of us.
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Post by trollrogue on Dec 26, 2015 14:55:52 GMT -5
He needs to evolve and change a few things with the gimmick that are stale, like FOLLOW THA BUZZAHDS and DAHHRP
But he's great as a true evil villain that's inexplicably charismatic. His John Cena feud started out great, the payoff sucked and I was hoping Wyatt and Cena would have some reverse Undertaker/HBK deal going on when Cena was worried he was losing his mojo as a main eventer. But they fted Wyatt to Taker and Cena squashed Wyatt, and Wyatt jobbed out a few more times and that was that for his 'mystique'.
Tag team epics are pretty much the best thing they know how to do with Wyatt and his Family. Some of his best stuff were those Shield/Wyatt 6-mans. If New Day ever turns face (or the Wyatts do somehow I guess) that might be doable. As it stands not even counting The Authority itself there's like 4 featured heel stables already on RAW/SD (New Day, League, Cosmic Wasteland, Wyatts) not counting the 2-and-a-half Diva heel stables (Beautiful and Deadly, Team Bella (w/ Paige?), and Evil Charlotte/Nature Boy/Innocent Becky (who cheat to win matches behind Becky's back).
Aside from the ECWs and Roman's Familia (both not true face stables just a collection of faces) there aren't any good face opponents for Wyatt. Unlike The New Day (who use their extra man as an advantage to fight in regular tag team matches) the Wyatts need to always face rag-tag groups and it's never impressive when they beat them (Super Smackdown they pretty much squashed the faces-- it meant nothing though especially considering they've already defeated the ECW Originals in elimination matches, ppv matches and regular tag matches before). If they lose to these teams it makes them seem even less impressive of a unit, and Wyatt less impressive as an effective leader.
By comparison, the New Day is booked as a threat, and only really Brawn Strowman still has any heat as an unstoppable monster after the rest of the Wyatts have jobbed themselves into oblivion. But both teams lose just as much it seems like. I think the big difference is adequate faces to feud with. I understand why they thought The Undertaker would be Bray Wyatt's 'glass ceiling' moment, and even tried rehashing the feud with the Brothers of Destruction (they also debuted Wyatt in an Inferno match with Kane on Summerslam) but they aren't good opponents for each other. Two supernatural gimmicks should be allies, not enemies... Wyatt needs his "HBK" to rock two successive Wrestlemania feuds against.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 26, 2015 22:00:41 GMT -5
Tag team epics are pretty much the best thing they know how to do with Wyatt and his Family. Some of his best stuff were those Shield/Wyatt 6-mans. If New Day ever turns face (or the Wyatts do somehow I guess) that might be doable. Honestly, I'd be doing a Wyatt Family v New Day (and friend) match for WrestleMania. New Day is probably going to be so over with that crowd that they may as well be babyfaces for the night.
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