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Post by Red Impact on Dec 27, 2015 11:33:02 GMT -5
The way I see it, they have years worth of movies planned in this bit, overarching franchise of Marvel. So even if a benchmark movie in it was popular, if it wasn't as popular as the previosu benchmark movie, then they're probably orried that the series might be losing steam like the Hobbit movies did, rather than gaining it like they want it to. Makes sense to a degree. Hobbit lost steam because it didn't need to be broken into three films, along with I feel there was no emotional connection to the characters like the Lord of the Rings. I'll put it this way, I don't think Marvel is necessarily losing steam with its films, although I feel the studio needs to take more risks with the stories and go in a more serious direction. Of course that's why Daredevil and Jessica Jones exists. But my English professor explained to me that while he likes the Marvel films, he made a point that they're too predictable with its scenarios. I do see his point and while they've made a lot of money, it's time the films go into a much darker, less humorous, and more serious scenario the closer they get to Infinity War. I think Marvel risks the same issue as far as not identifying with characters as they expand their universe more and more. Civil War already has something like, 10 heroes characters, and that's not even all we'll see in Infinity Wars (also, Infinity Wars is being split into two movies, so there's that). Movies like the Avengers gross as muhc as they do because they draw in a casual audience, and Marvel had been very good at playing to that audience. If you have too much going on between benchmarks, you begin to risk alienating them, which is how series end up declining. I don't see it as a bubble bursting anymore (I expected that with GotG and won't predict it again), but I can see a gradual decline where they get less and less popular as they get more and more overloaded with characters, especially if Marvel ever decides to include references to the TV shows along with the movies.
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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 27, 2015 12:05:23 GMT -5
We all know it's coming eventually
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 27, 2015 12:06:51 GMT -5
We all know it's coming eventually she can't beat Galactus or Doom so what's the point
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 27, 2015 12:13:43 GMT -5
I think there's a lot of things they could do that would make for interesting and entertaining movies, but those things also may be seen as falling flat compared to the Infinity Wars. You can bring Red Skull back, you can now start to incorporate Norman Osborn. You can do the Cabal. Hell, use the Death of Cap and show how much Steve means to the world.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Dec 27, 2015 12:18:48 GMT -5
It'll never happen(mostly because, what's Ghost Rider's status? Has he reverted to Marvel yet or is he still with Sony or whoever?), but I'd love it if they used Doctor Strange's presence in the MCU as a lever to give us the Midnight Sons. Like I said, it'll never happen, maybe for a Netflix thing, MAYBE, but I'd love it.
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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 27, 2015 12:28:08 GMT -5
We all know it's coming eventually she can't beat Galactus or Doom so what's the point To torture us
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 27, 2015 12:33:15 GMT -5
It'll never happen(mostly because, what's Ghost Rider's status? Has he reverted to Marvel yet or is he still with Sony or whoever?), but I'd love it if they used Doctor Strange's presence in the MCU as a lever to give us the Midnight Sons. Like I said, it'll never happen, maybe for a Netflix thing, MAYBE, but I'd love it. Marvel owns Ghost Rider's film rights now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2015 8:57:06 GMT -5
I thought the first Miss Marvel/Captain Marvel is focusing on Carol Danvers? I like Carol, but Monica Rambeau would make an equally good subject. If nothing else, her powers would look cooler on-screen. I've always said Monica Rambeau/Captain Marvel would be the cooler movie, not just because her powers are actually cooler but we haven't had a black woman as a lead in a superhero movie since Catwoman. Catwoman, y'all. Hell, it would fry my processors blow my mind if Monica Rambeau was the Captain Marvel of the MCU and MCU Kamala Khan idolized Rambeau. I mean, how often do you not only have a black woman as a lead in a superhero movie, but have her have a legacy that's carried on to another woman of color? I'll answer that question for you: NEVER. Never had that in a movie, how often does that even happen in comics? Just, man.... I'm going to stop because Marvel is never going to do it for one ridiculous reason or another.
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Post by Gremlin on Dec 28, 2015 11:02:59 GMT -5
The obvious answer is reboot phase one.
What I would like to see is Sgt. Fury's Howling Commandos. That could be pretty cool.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Dec 28, 2015 11:31:24 GMT -5
Big screen adaptation of Spider-Man: Reign.
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Post by chrom on Dec 31, 2015 20:51:51 GMT -5
The GLA are gathered around the phone, begging it to ring.
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Post by jagilki on Dec 31, 2015 21:12:56 GMT -5
DC gives them the rights to Batman/Superman.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jan 1, 2016 0:12:36 GMT -5
Big screen adaptation of Spider-Man: Reign. Not going to lie. I would like to see that. I thought the Reign story was a very cool and unique take on Spider-Man.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 1, 2016 0:59:19 GMT -5
I'd watch the shit out of some Spider-Ham.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 1, 2016 1:04:40 GMT -5
After the Fox's complete failure with the FF, I could potentially see Disney getting them for phase 4.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 1, 2016 1:16:28 GMT -5
After the Fox's complete failure with the FF, I could potentially see Disney getting them for phase 4. You underestimate the assholishness of Fox. We're getting a sequel and another reboot. By 2018.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 1, 2016 11:19:09 GMT -5
After the Fox's complete failure with the FF, I could potentially see Disney getting them for phase 4. What would be the point? I'd love to see Marvel get the rights back for their cosmic elements like Galactus and the Heralds and the Skrulls and such (they'd almost be a necessity if they're gonna keep going with GOTG after 2). But as for the Fantastic Four themselves, and even Doom, there's a very good argument that the last movie left them toxic to average movie-goers. I don't know if Marvel would want to risk it at this point putting them on the big screen under their own banner.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 1, 2016 11:25:16 GMT -5
After the Fox's complete failure with the FF, I could potentially see Disney getting them for phase 4. What would be the point? I'd love to see Marvel get the rights back for their cosmic elements like Galactus and the Heralds and the Skrulls and such (they'd almost be a necessity if they're gonna keep going with GOTG after 2). But as for the Fantastic Four themselves, and even Doom, there's a very good argument that the last movie left them toxic to average movie-goers. I don't know if Marvel would want to risk it at this point putting them on the big screen under their own banner. If Marvel gets them back, there's no way they don't put them on the big screen. The reason the other ones flopped is because Fox has no clue. Marvel knows what makes the franchise work. Audiences would be sold after one trailer. Also as an aside, I believe that Fox harming the integrity and profit potential of Disney's property is something they can use as legal leverage to get the property back.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 1, 2016 16:15:30 GMT -5
What would be the point? I'd love to see Marvel get the rights back for their cosmic elements like Galactus and the Heralds and the Skrulls and such (they'd almost be a necessity if they're gonna keep going with GOTG after 2). But as for the Fantastic Four themselves, and even Doom, there's a very good argument that the last movie left them toxic to average movie-goers. I don't know if Marvel would want to risk it at this point putting them on the big screen under their own banner. If Marvel gets them back, there's no way they don't put them on the big screen. The reason the other ones flopped is because Fox has no clue. Marvel knows what makes the franchise work. Audiences would be sold after one trailer. Also as an aside, I believe that Fox harming the integrity and profit potential of Disney's property is something they can use as legal leverage to get the property back. Yeah, they either fell into the trap taht Fantastic four is a team... when it's not... it's a family. or They gave it to the guy who didn't want to make a Fantastic Four movie and wanted to make some body horror movie instead... so Fox were sent scrambling trying to add new scenes that made it more like a Fantastic Four movie than a movie that just had characters named like the Fantastic Four. at the very least with how much money they lost on Fant4stic you can guarantee someone at Fox is undoubtedly cursing that they didn't just sell Fantastic Four back to Marvel when they offered...
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Jan 1, 2016 16:26:47 GMT -5
If Marvel gets them back, there's no way they don't put them on the big screen. The reason the other ones flopped is because Fox has no clue. Marvel knows what makes the franchise work. Audiences would be sold after one trailer. Also as an aside, I believe that Fox harming the integrity and profit potential of Disney's property is something they can use as legal leverage to get the property back. Yeah, they either fell into the trap taht Fantastic four is a team... when it's not... it's a family. or They gave it to the guy who didn't want to make a Fantastic Four movie and wanted to make some body horror movie instead... so Fox were sent scrambling trying to add new scenes that made it more like a Fantastic Four movie than a movie that just had characters named like the Fantastic Four. at the very least with how much money they lost on Fant4stic you can guarantee someone at Fox is undoubtedly cursing that they didn't just sell Fantastic Four back to Marvel when they offered... I'm just pissed we can't get Kang in an Avengers movie because he is considered a Fantastic Four character
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