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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 14, 2016 13:33:56 GMT -5
You know, everyone arm chair books and thinks they know better than Vince McMahon. Step back and look at what Vince has achieved with WWE. The guy can spot talent and make it grow, as well as greatly punish and de-push to make someone work harder. What's he achieved lately besides driving away millions of viewers in a ten year period?
Finding corners to cut to keep the stockholders happy so that he can put on a masturbatory show full of things that excite him before anyone else?
That's great.
Imagine what Vince would achieve if he put the customer before himself.
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Post by lionheart21 on Jan 14, 2016 13:41:48 GMT -5
I told a buddy of mine back when Breeze was in NXT that I really didn't wanna see Breeze on the main roster since the gimmick that he has was gonna have Vince make him into the next Fandango. I'm disappointed to see that I was correct.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 14, 2016 13:42:23 GMT -5
I told a buddy of mine back when Breeze was in NXT that I really didn't wanna see Breeze on the main roster since the gimmick that he has was gonna have Vince make him into the next Fandango. I'm disappointed to see that I was correct. Fandango lasted longer. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 14, 2016 13:44:30 GMT -5
You know, everyone arm chair books and thinks they know better than Vince McMahon. Step back and look at what Vince has achieved with WWE. The guy can spot talent and make it grow, as well as greatly punish and de-push to make someone work harder. I suspect Vince didn't see the next Hogan/Hart/Rock/Austin/HHH/Undertaker in the Breeze and decided to make him work through the ranks instead of HHH auto push. lol Oh boy. |
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Post by 魔界5号 on Jan 14, 2016 13:47:38 GMT -5
The bottom line is, if you're not named Roman Reigns, Brock Lesnar, The Rock, Undertaker, John Cena or Seth Rollins, Vince McMahon doesn't care about you.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 14, 2016 13:48:16 GMT -5
You know, everyone arm chair books and thinks they know better than Vince McMahon. Step back and look at what Vince has achieved with WWE. The guy can spot talent and make it grow, as well as greatly punish and de-push to make someone work harder. I suspect Vince didn't see the next Hogan/Hart/Rock/Austin/HHH/Undertaker in the Breeze and decided to make him work through the ranks instead of HHH auto push. lol Oh boy. Grab the brass ring, millennial! |
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Post by Andy Martin on Jan 14, 2016 13:51:53 GMT -5
I told a buddy of mine back when Breeze was in NXT that I really didn't wanna see Breeze on the main roster since the gimmick that he has was gonna have Vince make him into the next Fandango. I'm disappointed to see that I was correct. Fandango lasted longer. Fandango was more entertaining, too. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 14, 2016 13:52:21 GMT -5
Imo, Breeze being put into this position was to be expected. He's good enough to not be a complete jobber loser, but it's too soon to put him in the World Title picture (or even in the IC/US Title picture now that demoted main eventers have been seriously chasing those belts).
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Post by Abdullah on Jan 14, 2016 13:56:50 GMT -5
He actually lost a Superstars match to Swagger. It's not the end of the world but they clearly had no plan for his call-up; he's just a more visible Xavier Woods pre-New Day. Wow that is a perfect comparison. Xavier was only called up to be the catalyst for Brodus Clay to turn heel so Albert could retire. Tyler Breeze was the backup plan after the Rusev/Lana/Summer/Ziggler angle flopped. Thank you! No one remembers that Xavier had his weird debut with R-Truth and where some, myself included, said he was only called up for his PHD. He has found a perfect role, though. Which is to say - rough start but Breeze could still bounce back at any time. |
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Post by radiantsilvergun on Jan 14, 2016 13:59:56 GMT -5
You know, everyone arm chair books and thinks they know better than Vince McMahon. Step back and look at what Vince has achieved with WWE. The guy can spot talent and make it grow, as well as greatly punish and de-push to make someone work harder. What's he achieved lately besides losing millions of viewers in a ten year period?
Finding corners to cut to keep the stockholders happy while he can put on a masturbatory show full of things that excite him before anyone else?
That's great.
Imagine what Vince would achieve if he put the customer before himself.
Oh come on not this again. Shield guys, Punk/Cena, not screwing up Kevin Owens, etc are all pretty damn genius. The man does have something left. Breeze was in the main event on Monday so there's that. The mid-card is starting to get more and more important and Breeze will get a cushy spot in it once its all said and done it looks like. |
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jan 14, 2016 14:02:57 GMT -5
What's he achieved lately besides losing millions of viewers in a ten year period?
Finding corners to cut to keep the stockholders happy while he can put on a masturbatory show full of things that excite him before anyone else?
That's great.
Imagine what Vince would achieve if he put the customer before himself.
Oh come on not this again. Shield guys, Punk/Cena, not screwing up Kevin Owens, etc are all pretty damn genius. The man does have something left. Breeze was in the main event on Monday so there's that. The mid-card is starting to get more and more important and Breeze will get a cushy spot in it once its all said and done it looks like. Shield wasn't his idea. His idea for the Shield was Punk, Daniel Bryan, Big Show and someone else. Kevin Owens could be handled 2000% better and having Cena beat him twice in a row after all the momentum he'd been given with the first match was egregious. He offers nothing. Vince McMahon is washed up and blames his failures on "millennials" because he apparently knows better than his customers. |
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Post by jp49er80 on Jan 14, 2016 14:02:58 GMT -5
maybe Tyler sneezed backstage Maybe vince thinks hes called Tyler Sneeze? |
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Post by domrep on Jan 14, 2016 14:03:55 GMT -5
He was SOL'd when he debuted on Smackdown instead of RAW.
He is listed as six feet tall which is generous, wouldn't be shocked if he's 5'9 or 5'10. Gist of it, while he's a really good worker, he's short, has a gimmick that has a short shelf-life and debuted on a taped show when it should have been a bigger deal
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 14, 2016 14:04:55 GMT -5
What's he achieved lately besides losing millions of viewers in a ten year period?
Finding corners to cut to keep the stockholders happy while he can put on a masturbatory show full of things that excite him before anyone else?
That's great.
Imagine what Vince would achieve if he put the customer before himself.
Oh come on not this again. Shield guys, Punk/Cena, not screwing up Kevin Owens, etc are all pretty damn genius. The man does have something left. Breeze was in the main event on Monday so there's that. The mid-card is starting to get more and more important and Breeze will get a cushy spot in it once its all said and done it looks like. From what I've heard, SHIELD basically told creative they wouldn't do any shit that they didn't like. That alone would have spared them from Vince's booking insanity. He drove Punk out of the wrestling business and into a mid-life crisis. His tunnel eyed booking of Cena is the primary reason WWE devoid of top level stars, and Owens is succeeding in spite of WWE's booking, not because of it. He was another victim of Cena-based booking until he finally got away and feuded with Ambrose. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 14:06:19 GMT -5
What's he achieved lately besides losing millions of viewers in a ten year period?
Finding corners to cut to keep the stockholders happy while he can put on a masturbatory show full of things that excite him before anyone else?
That's great.
Imagine what Vince would achieve if he put the customer before himself.
Oh come on not this again. Shield guys, Punk/Cena, not screwing up Kevin Owens, etc are all pretty damn genius. The man does have something left. Breeze was in the main event on Monday so there's that. The mid-card is starting to get more and more important and Breeze will get a cushy spot in it once its all said and done it looks like. The whole reason Shield wasn't depushed is because they "bullied" their way to the top. They've said it in multiple interviews but they gained up on writers and officials so they wouldn't be buried, since they were 3 of them they couldn't push them down the card. They didn't do the stupid shit they asked them to do. They were scheduled to lose to Cena in their second feud and if that happened you would have never seen them in their current incarnations. Punk/Cena, we saw what happened with Punk and all that and that's purely because of the Pipebomb. Kevin Owens wasn't depushed completely because of Triple H, KO's his most pushed superstar that I can even remember and from what we can see, this Ambrose feud is the best thing Owens has gotten since that Cena thing and that's purely because of Ambrose who, as you can read, is this high up because of the Shield. You're not giving any good examples. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 14:06:47 GMT -5
What's he achieved lately besides losing millions of viewers in a ten year period?
Finding corners to cut to keep the stockholders happy while he can put on a masturbatory show full of things that excite him before anyone else?
That's great.
Imagine what Vince would achieve if he put the customer before himself.
Oh come on not this again. Shield guys, Punk/Cena, not screwing up Kevin Owens, etc are all pretty damn genius. The man does have something left. Breeze was in the main event on Monday so there's that. The mid-card is starting to get more and more important and Breeze will get a cushy spot in it once its all said and done it looks like. I love that the bar is so low in WWE right now that "not screwing up Kevin Owens" - is considered "genius." As is creating a working environment so creatively stifling that it drove away CM Punk. Also, Punk/Cena was largely Punk's idea born of his frustration with - yup, you guessed it, Vince's dumb ideas. What people are conflating these days is that cool stuff still happens in WWE in spite of Vince's ideas, not because of it. |
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Jan 14, 2016 14:08:04 GMT -5
Please retire Vince!
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 14, 2016 14:08:43 GMT -5
Considering how WWE booked Dolph the last couple of years, Breeze is got the same career path. Minus the championship pedigree. Let's be truthful, other than winning the NXT title; Tyler had nothing left to do in there. If he stuck around, he would be in the same spot as Bull Dempsey and Tye Dillenger. A starmaker. Hell, he was doing that before he even left. Honestly, he is one note on the main roster. No fleshed out character. Just a self involved pretty boy. See that is one of the problems NXT has. Underdeveloped characters who suffer when they leave the confines of NXT. We seen it happen to Charlotte and Emma. Creative ain't helping them out but it is not like they had layers to begin with. But before he is written off as a failure, keep in mind that one of the buzzworthy acts in WWE are 4 jobbers to the stars who people gave up hope on.
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Post by radiantsilvergun on Jan 14, 2016 14:08:44 GMT -5
Oh come on not this again. Shield guys, Punk/Cena, not screwing up Kevin Owens, etc are all pretty damn genius. The man does have something left. Breeze was in the main event on Monday so there's that. The mid-card is starting to get more and more important and Breeze will get a cushy spot in it once its all said and done it looks like. From what I've heard, SHIELD basically told creative they wouldn't do any shit that they didn't like. That alone would have spared them from Vince's booking insanity. He drove Punk out of the wrestling business and into a mid-life crisis. His tunnel eyed booking of Cena is the primary reason WWE devoid of top level stars, and Owens is succeeding in spite of WWE's booking, not because of it. He was another victim of Cena-based booking until he finally got away and feuded with Ambrose. He gave the SHIELD the cue to go though. Imagine how easy it would've been for him to say "HAHA not today pal!"? I was referring to the 2011 Punk/Cena program. That has Vince written all over it, the best feud of our time. Owens has been given tons of spotlight and main event slots. |
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 14, 2016 14:09:43 GMT -5
Vince is more bipolar and Richard Simmons
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