Hall and Hulk's reaction to HHH going over Sting at WM31

[lebuddha]

Jan 14, 2016 22:58:07 GMT -5 @conebone69 said:

Either Sting should have won or he should have faced someone else where he could have won. Otherwise, what was the point of bringing him in other than to pad HHH's resume as the Killer of WCW? If Sting was going to job, just do Sting/Taker and move on. Just a really stupid result in what amounted to a pointless match.

As if 2003 wasn't good enough for HHH. Back then, you had Eric Bischoff running Monday Night Raw, the Big Gold WCW belt on HHH; and Hunter going over WCW stars for the entirety of that year: Scott Steiner, Booker T, Kevin Nash, Goldberg. 

Jan 14, 2016 23:39:54 GMT -5 nate5054 said:

I believe it. And it's one of the many reasons I detest Vince. He won, everyone gets it. Why not let the fans have the moment they wanted.

Here's a fun one: If you were a wrestler who chose to stay with WCW until their very last show when went out of business and were bought out by WWF; that means you would never win the WWF/E Championship in your career. Sure, you might get the Big Gold belt that was the WCW belt one day; but you'll never get the "main" flagship title of the WWF.

Actually... Come to think of it; they did give the WWE Championship to one of those WCW stars who wrestled on the very last Nitro... It was Rey Mysterio. It didn't happen for TEN YEARS after the buyout. And when 2011 finally did came, Mysterio only held it for 1 hour before jobbing it back to John Cena. Gee, thanks Vince; thanks for making us wait an entire decade to see the WWF belt on a WCW guy; only for you to choose the smallest WCW guy on the roster.

[spagett]

Sting was very similar to The Rock in that he never really minded losing. He knew how good he was and how popular he was so I don't think he was ever that bothered about doing the job in any situation. Obviously there will be exceptions but in general I think that was the case.

I still think Triple H winning was stupid and absolutely the wrong thing to do but what can you do? Obviously Vince and Triple h have much bigger egos than the Stinger.

[Hit Girl]

I find it funny that Sting's reason for not joining WWE in the early 2000's was that the character would be treated like a jobber.

[HMARK Center]

I remember watching it, being baffled by the booking, but also thinking "Huh, that's weird that HBK was the last guy to interfere, this would be a perfect spot for Flair to help Sting. Maybe he's not there."

Next segment, Flair appears on screen.

Huh.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

I'm sure Hulk would be dead against the idea of someone going over Sting unnecessarily.

[111111]

Sting probably made a shit ton of money, he would have made the same amount win lose or draw.


Scott Hall probably got paid peanuts for his "involvement" in comparison.

[King Devitt: What Plants Crave]

Jan 15, 2016 6:37:21 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

I find it funny that Sting's reason for not joining WWE in the early 2000's was that the character would be treated like a jobber.

my thoughts as well.

he didn't join because he was afraid he'd be treated poorly, then signs and gets treated poorly. From debut, to build, to promos, to announcing, to WM.

Showing us again why Vince is the millionaire who should be a billionaire. I'm trying to think of any other profession you can put out a product universally disliked, one that anyone on the outside can see how to clearly fix, but be in a position to coast on idiotic decision after idiotic decision and still make money.

[Andy Martin]

Jan 15, 2016 7:26:34 GMT -5 King Devitt: What Plants Crave said:

Jan 15, 2016 6:37:21 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

I find it funny that Sting's reason for not joining WWE in the early 2000's was that the character would be treated like a jobber.

my thoughts as well.

he didn't join because he was afraid he'd be treated poorly, then signs and gets treated poorly. From debut, to build, to promos, to announcing, to WM.

Showing us again why Vince is the millionaire who should be a billionaire. I'm trying to think of any other profession you can put out a product universally disliked, one that anyone on the outside can see how to clearly fix, but be in a position to coast on idiotic decision after idiotic decision and still make money.

Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment.

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I have to admit, the insinuation that Hulk was as surprised as Hall was (even though Hall doesn't say it - for all we know he looked at Hogan thinking "Hey, you're not the only one to use his stroke that blatantly." ) makes HHH's win sound more........well, pathetic.

[Soultastic]

It's not often I use the phrase "he should've stayed in TNA" but...

[Welfare Willis]

I guess I get the logic of it since they also had to do the Rousey/Rock segment, but you couldn't move the schedule around to do that bit first?

[Rolent Tex]

What's funny is that WWE refusing to acknowledge TNA's existence pretty much left the plot hole that could have explained the nWo backing Sting. Nash and Sting were running mates in the Main Event Mafia and I believe Hogan and Sting made peace on air before Hogan left.

[No Longer a Produceman]

Jan 15, 2016 6:55:38 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

I remember watching it, being baffled by the booking, but also thinking "Huh, that's weird that HBK was the last guy to interfere, this would be a perfect spot for Flair to help Sting. Maybe he's not there."

Next segment, Flair appears on screen.

Huh.

I was expecting Flair to come out, seemingly on Sting's side, only to turn on him for old time's sake.

[MichaelMartini]

HHH is the most insecure "alpha male" in history.

[CubsFan71]

Wait a minute: You mean to tell me that of all people, HULK HOGAN was complaining about an established main eventer thats a little past his prime, not wanting to put other talent over? HULK FREAKIN HOGAN?

[schma]

Jan 15, 2016 10:14:04 GMT -5 Andy Martin said:

Jan 15, 2016 7:26:34 GMT -5 King Devitt: What Plants Crave said:

my thoughts as well.

he didn't join because he was afraid he'd be treated poorly, then signs and gets treated poorly. From debut, to build, to promos, to announcing, to WM.

Showing us again why Vince is the millionaire who should be a billionaire. I'm trying to think of any other profession you can put out a product universally disliked, one that anyone on the outside can see how to clearly fix, but be in a position to coast on idiotic decision after idiotic decision and still make money.

Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment.

I wish I could like that more than once.  MLSE boggles the mind.

[schma]

Jan 14, 2016 22:48:15 GMT -5 @kn said:

“I was there and obviously involved in his match at WrestleMania last year,” said Hall. “We’re rehearsing the match in Cali last year at Levi Stadium, and it’s the Kliq and the New Age Outlaws out there, and we all know each other. And then there’s Sting, who doesn’t know anybody. He’s an outsider. I just think he never felt comfortable there. Being hurt was answered prayer for him–just let it end.

“You need to remember that Vince is never going to go with something he didn’t create. But we didn’t get anything done at the rehearsal the night before, so WrestleMania day, there were tents in the parking lot set up with rings for rehearsal. So we’re all in there again, and I’m next to Hulk on the ring apron and Triple H is going over the match and then he goes, ‘OK, he’ll break the sledgehammer, then I’ll hit him with the sledgehammer, and cover him, 1-2-3.’ I looked at Hulk, and Hulk looked at me, and I was thinking, ‘Sting, what kind of lawyer do you have, bro? You’re coming in the door doing a job? You weren’t even guaranteed to go over?’ That’s Vince just reminding you who won, even if he’s going to make money the other way.”

www.si.com/extra-mustard/2016/01/13/scott-hall-brock-lesnar-sting-wwe-new-japan

Hulk didn't say anything.  This is what Hall was thinking.  He only mentions looking at Hulk so he probably figures Hulk was thinking the same thing.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Jan 15, 2016 11:12:18 GMT -5 Rolent Tex said:

What's funny is that WWE refusing to acknowledge TNA's existence pretty much left the plot hole that could have explained the nWo backing Sting. Nash and Sting were running mates in the Main Event Mafia and I believe Hogan and Sting made peace on air before Hogan left.

They refused to acknowledge TNA because they wanted to say that HHH singlehandedly destroying WCW was so traumatic that it caused Sting to sit at home crying for 14 years.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Jan 15, 2016 14:16:36 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Jan 15, 2016 11:12:18 GMT -5 Rolent Tex said:

What's funny is that WWE refusing to acknowledge TNA's existence pretty much left the plot hole that could have explained the nWo backing Sting. Nash and Sting were running mates in the Main Event Mafia and I believe Hogan and Sting made peace on air before Hogan left.

They refused to acknowledge TNA because they wanted to say that HHH singlehandedly destroying WCW was so traumatic that it caused Sting to sit at home crying for 14 years.

They refuse to Acknowledge TNA because TNA aren't and have never been competition.

Would use any kind of mention as a propoganda that the WWE is scared of them.

not to mention TNA tried suing the WWE, after the WWE let them know one of their former employees was trying to tell the WWE confidential contract information. (Which the WWE was not legally required to do.)

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Jan 15, 2016 14:42:48 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave is Correct said:

Jan 15, 2016 14:16:36 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

They refused to acknowledge TNA because they wanted to say that HHH singlehandedly destroying WCW was so traumatic that it caused Sting to sit at home crying for 14 years.

They refuse to Acknowledge TNA because TNA aren't and have never been competition.

Would use any kind of mention as a propoganda that the WWE is scared of them.

not to mention TNA tried suing the WWE, after the WWE let them know one of their former employees was trying to tell the WWE confidential contract information. (Which the WWE was not legally required to do.)

The point was that they tried to push the idea that Sting "sat at home" for well over a decade after WCW's closure.