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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 15, 2016 14:46:02 GMT -5
They were right not to mention TNA. One mention and Dixie would consider it a huge victory. Daft cow.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 15, 2016 15:00:21 GMT -5
Have we ever gotten Sting's reasoning for being willing to take the fall in his WWE debut match? I'm assuming that he wasn't too fussed about it because the money was good. My guess is he got the same offer he had in 2011, but he actually still had some faith/loyalty to TNA in 2011, and after the whole AJ leaving thing he was like "so, who's pinning me?" |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 15, 2016 15:05:43 GMT -5
If I was booking this match, I would have had Hall and Nash helping HHH as the nWo, and DDP and Goldberg helping Sting. When everyone is laid out, Hogan comes down alone, echoing the "whose side is he on?" moment, but this time he drops the leg on HHH. The last WCW nostalgia angle goes out on a feel-good moment, and they get to use the spirit of "remember how good this was?" to shill the Network. Not happening with his crippled back caused by using a leg drop. Seriously, he had so much surgery he's 5 inches shorter. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 15, 2016 15:06:54 GMT -5
My guess is that Sting's contract with WWE said that he'd be winning at WM, but after he signed it, the actual words on the page changed inexplicably to "Sting agrees to lose at WM".
The English language betrayed him!
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 15, 2016 15:09:49 GMT -5
My guess is that Sting's contract with WWE said that he'd be winning at WM, but after he signed it, the actual words on the page changed inexplicably to "Sting agrees to lose at WM". The English language betrayed him! Sting forgot to make them specify which Mania. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 15, 2016 15:14:38 GMT -5
My guess is that Sting's contract with WWE said that he'd be winning at WM, but after he signed it, the actual words on the page changed inexplicably to "Sting agrees to lose at WM". The English language betrayed him! Sting forgot to make them specify which Mania. I told Sting he needed better legal representation than that blackbird that keeps cawing whenever he appears. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 15, 2016 15:15:25 GMT -5
If I was booking this match, I would have had Hall and Nash helping HHH as the nWo, and DDP and Goldberg helping Sting. When everyone is laid out, Hogan comes down alone, echoing the "whose side is he on?" moment, but this time he drops the leg on HHH. The last WCW nostalgia angle goes out on a feel-good moment, and they get to use the spirit of "remember how good this was?" to shill the Network. Not happening with his crippled back caused by using a leg drop. Seriously, he had so much surgery he's 5 inches shorter. Oh yeah, Hogan can barely walk... dropping the leg would pretty much make his spine explode into tiny fragments at this point. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 15, 2016 15:34:09 GMT -5
Not happening with his crippled back caused by using a leg drop. Seriously, he had so much surgery he's 5 inches shorter. Oh yeah, Hogan can barely walk... dropping the leg would pretty much make his spine explode into tiny fragments at this point. But would Hogan go out of this world any other way than dropping the leg and exploding in a glorious ball of fire? |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 15, 2016 16:14:59 GMT -5
Not happening with his crippled back caused by using a leg drop. Seriously, he had so much surgery he's 5 inches shorter. Oh yeah, Hogan can barely walk... dropping the leg would pretty much make his spine explode into tiny fragments at this point. Even Nikki Bella is having finisher related spinal problems right now. Hulk's back is doomed. |
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Post by Mrs. Potato Dick on Jan 15, 2016 16:17:45 GMT -5
"History is written by the victors." - Walter Benjamin Excellent quote, Shelton. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2016 16:35:00 GMT -5
Hulk didn't say anything. This is what Hall was thinking. He only mentions looking at Hulk so he probably figures Hulk was thinking the same thing. Which is based on how Hogan does things. That's classic Hogan, he's always been about the politics. Hogan agrees with that look. |
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Post by domrep on Jan 15, 2016 16:45:22 GMT -5
It's wrestling, it ain't like Sting was a young upstart and this push would kill his career. At this point, it's a money grab and a HOF induction. Win, lose, or draw he probably got a six figure check out of it.
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Post by Johnny D on Jan 15, 2016 16:49:06 GMT -5
Sting should have won without a doubt, just Vince being petty as usual.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Jan 15, 2016 17:41:00 GMT -5
It's wrestling, it ain't like Sting was a young upstart and this push would kill his career. At this point, it's a money grab and a HOF induction. Win, lose, or draw he probably got a six figure check out of it. Really tho. I mean, I like Triple H, but there are far more egregious examples of Trips playing politics to the detriment of others, WrestleMania XIX most notably. This ain't one of them. Sting's illustrious thirty year history is not gonna be hurt by a total clustersmurf of a match and a loss so protected that Hunter's "win" should be in scare quotes. Hell, in three years or less, this is going to be one of those matches that the average fan won't even remember without seeing it on a WrestleMania Rewind. |
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Post by dirtyoldman on Jan 15, 2016 18:03:49 GMT -5
I thought the commentary was the most embarrassing aspect of it. Was Vince literally on the other end telling them to say that crap or did Cole and jbs come up with it themselves without prompting? It made them look just as bad and petty either way.
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Post by schma on Jan 15, 2016 19:45:12 GMT -5
Not happening with his crippled back caused by using a leg drop. Seriously, he had so much surgery he's 5 inches shorter. Oh yeah, Hogan can barely walk... dropping the leg would pretty much make his spine explode into tiny fragments at this point. What makes it so much sadder is that it wasn't even a good finisher. |
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 15, 2016 20:14:42 GMT -5
It's wrestling, it ain't like Sting was a young upstart and this push would kill his career. At this point, it's a money grab and a HOF induction. Win, lose, or draw he probably got a six figure check out of it. Really tho. I mean, I like Triple H, but there are far more egregious examples of Trips playing politics to the detriment of others, WrestleMania XIX most notably. This ain't one of them. Sting's illustrious thirty year history is not gonna be hurt by a total clustersmurf of a match and a loss so protected that Hunter's "win" should be in scare quotes. Hell, in three years or less, this is going to be one of those matches that the average fan won't even remember without seeing it on a WrestleMania Rewind. Add in Punk getting fed to him in 2011, which was second only to jobbing out Booker T in terms of stupidity because of the fact that HHH was COO and no longer a full timer anymore. |
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Post by doinkmark on Jan 15, 2016 23:55:02 GMT -5
I get Hall's point. No one outside of WWE thought Sting losing in his first match was a good idea. That said, Hall and Hogan aren't exactly known as the most selfless guys either. I'm sure their lawyer really would've demanded in writing that they win at 'Mania, except their match would have to be the main event. All the positive upper-hand Sting booking up to that point would've also remained the same, and the match still would've featured all the interference and international objects, but with the face winning over one of the most powerful men in the company, in and out of kayfabe. ...Yeah, that sounds about right for the Kliq/Hulkster.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 16, 2016 0:01:22 GMT -5
"YA SEE, JACK, THE STINGER, MAN WAS ALWAYS TOO NICE. IF I WAS HIM, DUDE, I WOULD HAVE SAID: LISTEN VICIOUS VINCE, IS HUNTER REPAYING ME IN KIND? THAT'S HOW YOU DO BUSINESS. I WOULD HAVE SLAMMED HHH THROUGH THE RING, BROTHER, RIGHT THROUGH THE SAN ANDRES FAULT!! CALIFORNIA WOULD HAVE BROKE OFF THE USA, MAN, AND WHILE STEPH WOULD HAVE TEARS AFTER I KILLED HER HUSBAND, I WOULD TELL HER, DUDE, 'JUMP ON THE LARGEST BACK IN THE WORLD, AND I'LL SWIM YA TO SAFETY!!!!' SO WATCHA GONNA DO, WHEN HULKAMANIA DESTROYS YOU?!" All-time, HOF worthy post. Wow. |
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