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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 6, 2016 1:20:24 GMT -5
A person has a certain responsibility as a good interviewer and journalist to ask good, well-thought, DIFFERENT, thought-provoking questions. This guy failed to do so, and then tried to flip Punk into being the bad guy. When you've done as many interviews as he has, the same poorly worded questions over and over IS insulting. I don't understand how that isn't more apparent. If Punk can set aside time to be interviewed, the person in question should do the same to make sure it's a good interview.. Which the guy clearly did NOT do. No, a journalist job is to ask important questions not the ones CM Punk wants to be asked about. That's not how serious journalism works, this isn't North Korea. Every journalist is within his right to ask CM Punk anything they want because the ufc sent him to an event to answer questions, he will always be bound to the wwe, so everybody is going to ask him about that chapter of his life. The man is a mixed martial arts rookie, obviously they are going to ask him questions about the wwe. The journalist job is to cover a story, not to know details about Punk's life that he wants to be asked about.
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Post by heroicdanger on Feb 6, 2016 4:13:16 GMT -5
A person has a certain responsibility as a good interviewer and journalist to ask good, well-thought, DIFFERENT, thought-provoking questions. This guy failed to do so, and then tried to flip Punk into being the bad guy. When you've done as many interviews as he has, the same poorly worded questions over and over IS insulting. I don't understand how that isn't more apparent. If Punk can set aside time to be interviewed, the person in question should do the same to make sure it's a good interview.. Which the guy clearly did NOT do. I actually had to login to a site I almost never login to to say how much complete nonsense this is. I have no idea how you've come to the conclusion that the actual journalist is as fault here for doing exactly what every journalist in the world does on an interview designed to hype an upcoming event. Everybody has a job to do here; the job of the journo is to sit and ask inoffensive questions to put together a pretty standard article reminding people that CM Punk exists and may be fighting in the UFC soon. The job of the UFC is to get their man, make sure they are clean and sober and put them in front of the interviewer to answer their questions. The job of the interviewee is smile, nod and generally answer bland questions with cookie cutter replies. This is what happens when everybody is being a professional. This is literally as big a part of CM Punk's job as his daily training regime is. This is how the fight business works. When a person says something controversial about another person or do some of the stuff that people like Tyson Fury does, this is part of them creating a public persona in order to build up a fight. The difference however is the Golden Rule that you never attack the person opposite you - neither the interviewer or interviewee attacks the person opposite them because they are just as important as each other in making a successful outcome for the story that both UFC and the editor who are their respective bosses want to see. Every now and again you get some people who thinks their shit doesn't stink who goes into business for themselves. They decide that they don't want to follow your rules man, and generally do something along these lines. Unless this was pre-arranged and it reads like it almost certainly wasn't, all this actually does is give them a reputation as being difficult to work with, unreliable and ultimately unprofessional to both the fight bosses/promoters and the media which they rely on to promote the fights. Fans think this is cool and rebellious. Fight journalists and promoters do not think this is cool, it questions the discipline, commitment and professionalism of the person they are thinking of sinking millions of dollars into. There's very famous stories from the entire entertainment business in the past of major publications just blacklisting certain people because they cannot keep their latest hot property under any type of professionalism which the entire promotions and entertainment businesses are built upon.
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Post by christopher vinn. on Feb 6, 2016 5:10:24 GMT -5
A person has a certain responsibility as a good interviewer and journalist to ask good, well-thought, DIFFERENT, thought-provoking questions. This guy failed to do so, and then tried to flip Punk into being the bad guy. When you've done as many interviews as he has, the same poorly worded questions over and over IS insulting. I don't understand how that isn't more apparent. If Punk can set aside time to be interviewed, the person in question should do the same to make sure it's a good interview.. Which the guy clearly did NOT do. I actually had to login to a site I almost never login to to say how much complete nonsense this is. I have no idea how you've come to the conclusion that the actual journalist is as fault here for doing exactly what every journalist in the world does on an interview designed to hype an upcoming event. Everybody has a job to do here; the job of the journo is to sit and ask inoffensive questions to put together a pretty standard article reminding people that CM Punk exists and may be fighting in the UFC soon. The job of the UFC is to get their man, make sure they are clean and sober and put them in front of the interviewer to answer their questions. The job of the interviewee is smile, nod and generally answer bland questions with cookie cutter replies. This is what happens when everybody is being a professional. This is literally as big a part of CM Punk's job as his daily training regime is. This is how the fight business works. When a person says something controversial about another person or do some of the stuff that people like Tyson Fury does, this is part of them creating a public persona in order to build up a fight. The difference however is the Golden Rule that you never attack the person opposite you - neither the interviewer or interviewee attacks the person opposite them because they are just as important as each other in making a successful outcome for the story that both UFC and the editor who are their respective bosses want to see. Every now and again you get some people who thinks their shit doesn't stink who goes into business for themselves. They decide that they don't want to follow your rules man, and generally do something along these lines. Unless this was pre-arranged and it reads like it almost certainly wasn't, all this actually does is give them a reputation as being difficult to work with, unreliable and ultimately unprofessional to both the fight bosses/promoters and the media which they rely on to promote the fights. Fans think this is cool and rebellious. Fight journalists and promoters do not think this is cool, it questions the discipline, commitment and professionalism of the person they are thinking of sinking millions of dollars into. There's very famous stories from the entire entertainment business in the past of major publications just blacklisting certain people because they cannot keep their latest hot property under any type of professionalism which the entire promotions and entertainment businesses are built upon. Clearly our tastes in publications differ greatly. I don't want to read anything that's cookie cutter unless absolutely nessecary. If generic answers is the standard, you're not setting your goals very high. Simple as that. I get how promotion works, but I also get that doing the same interview over and over doesn't. For the interviewer, or interviewee. Read any celebrities answers to the question "What was your best interview?" and 9/10 they're the ones where they were asked questions that were both unique and important common knowledge. What this guy was aiming to do is literally the same interview Punk has done since being signed. We've all read it before and it's not doing a good job promoting anything. Also, you assuming what journalist and MMA bosses want is a real stretch unless you're Dana or some other person of significance. Who's to say the "heel" interview we got out of Punk WON'T sell more tickets than the vanilla one we've already ready from him 20 times? One's interesting, one isn't. I know I wouldn't have read through it had Punk fielded the mindless questions appropriately. I've already HEARD all of it. And have you read CM Punk's contract where it says it's his JOB to promote his fights and cooperate with interviewers? Didn't know those details were ever publicly released. I believe his only obligation is to step into the octagon. It'd be intelligent for him to promote as he'll get a bigger payday, but definitely not a required part of his job unless you're signing his paychecks and know that for a fact. Yes, no one is required to ask Punk the questions he "wants" asked, but no one is required to ask the same questions the last person did, either. All I'm saying here. Anything else is really speculative or jumping to conclusions.
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Post by heroicdanger on Feb 6, 2016 5:19:30 GMT -5
I actually had to login to a site I almost never login to to say how much complete nonsense this is. I have no idea how you've come to the conclusion that the actual journalist is as fault here for doing exactly what every journalist in the world does on an interview designed to hype an upcoming event. Everybody has a job to do here; the job of the journo is to sit and ask inoffensive questions to put together a pretty standard article reminding people that CM Punk exists and may be fighting in the UFC soon. The job of the UFC is to get their man, make sure they are clean and sober and put them in front of the interviewer to answer their questions. The job of the interviewee is smile, nod and generally answer bland questions with cookie cutter replies. This is what happens when everybody is being a professional. This is literally as big a part of CM Punk's job as his daily training regime is. This is how the fight business works. When a person says something controversial about another person or do some of the stuff that people like Tyson Fury does, this is part of them creating a public persona in order to build up a fight. The difference however is the Golden Rule that you never attack the person opposite you - neither the interviewer or interviewee attacks the person opposite them because they are just as important as each other in making a successful outcome for the story that both UFC and the editor who are their respective bosses want to see. Every now and again you get some people who thinks their shit doesn't stink who goes into business for themselves. They decide that they don't want to follow your rules man, and generally do something along these lines. Unless this was pre-arranged and it reads like it almost certainly wasn't, all this actually does is give them a reputation as being difficult to work with, unreliable and ultimately unprofessional to both the fight bosses/promoters and the media which they rely on to promote the fights. Fans think this is cool and rebellious. Fight journalists and promoters do not think this is cool, it questions the discipline, commitment and professionalism of the person they are thinking of sinking millions of dollars into. There's very famous stories from the entire entertainment business in the past of major publications just blacklisting certain people because they cannot keep their latest hot property under any type of professionalism which the entire promotions and entertainment businesses are built upon. Clearly our tastes in publications differ greatly. I don't want to read anything that's cookie cutter unless absolutely nessecary. If generic answers is the standard, you're not setting your goals very high. Simple as that. I get how promotion works, but I also get that doing the same interview over and over doesn't. For the interviewer, or interviewee. Read any celebrities answers to the question "What was your best interview?" and 9/10 they're the ones where they were asked questions that were both unique and important common knowledge. What this guy was aiming to do is literally the same interview Punk has done since being signed. We've all read it before and it's not doing a good job promoting anything. Also, you assuming what journalist and MMA bosses want is a real stretch unless you're Dana or some other person of significance. Who's to say the "heel" interview we got out of Punk WON'T sell more tickets than the vanilla one we've already ready from him 20 times? One's interesting, one isn't. I know I wouldn't have read through it had Punk fielded the questions approriately. I've already HEARD all of it. I'm a sports journalist. His job is literally to sit there answering the same questions by 1000 different people phrased in very slightly different ways. This is a business with millions of potential dollars at stake, not a circus for his personal entertainment. What he did was unprofessional and instead of understanding the covenant that athletes and journos have together in terms of mutual gain, he decided that he was bored so that reporter had to go to his editor and tell him that in fact he didn't get the story that was requested of him.
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Post by christopher vinn. on Feb 6, 2016 5:34:05 GMT -5
Clearly our tastes in publications differ greatly. I don't want to read anything that's cookie cutter unless absolutely nessecary. If generic answers is the standard, you're not setting your goals very high. Simple as that. I get how promotion works, but I also get that doing the same interview over and over doesn't. For the interviewer, or interviewee. Read any celebrities answers to the question "What was your best interview?" and 9/10 they're the ones where they were asked questions that were both unique and important common knowledge. What this guy was aiming to do is literally the same interview Punk has done since being signed. We've all read it before and it's not doing a good job promoting anything. Also, you assuming what journalist and MMA bosses want is a real stretch unless you're Dana or some other person of significance. Who's to say the "heel" interview we got out of Punk WON'T sell more tickets than the vanilla one we've already ready from him 20 times? One's interesting, one isn't. I know I wouldn't have read through it had Punk fielded the questions approriately. I've already HEARD all of it. I'm a sports journalist. His job is literally to sit there answering the same questions by 1000 different people phrased in very slightly different ways. This is a business with millions of potential dollars at stake, not a circus for his personal entertainment. What he did was unprofessional and instead of understanding the covenant that athletes and journos have together in terms of mutual gain, he decided that he was bored so that reporter had to go to his editor and tell him that in fact he didn't get the story that was requested of him. You're saying you're a journalist.. And it's a part of the job to do what everyone else does by asking the same questions everyone else does and bringing back a story. So he did that, and like you said.. didn't bring back a story. Even by YOUR definition he's a poor journalist. All he did was spin one when he failed at getting one..
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Post by 魔界5号 on Feb 6, 2016 5:44:05 GMT -5
I loved CM Punk as a wrestler. I was 8 when I first watched him and all the way up until he left I was a big fan. I looked up to him and respected his work ethic, straight edge lifestyle and talent.
Since he left WWE though, I've greatly soured on Phil Brooks. There was a time when I would believe the "maybe he's just having a bad day" or "he probably has a thousand people ask him this every day" excuses, but nobody is like that every day. He just comes off as a bitter, miserable, angsty human being with a real attitude problem and sense of entitlement.
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Post by xCompackx on Feb 6, 2016 12:15:32 GMT -5
Even if you think Punk's in the right for being a dick to the interviewer, what other questions are there to ask? The entire story regarding Punk's UFC career so far is how people doubting that he can do it, and given his previous career as a pro wrestler, you can't expect the topic not to come up.
I mean, maybe if Punk's tired of being asked the same things, he should stop doing interviews until his debut (if it ever happens).
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Feb 6, 2016 12:43:12 GMT -5
"Punk, what is your opinion of the shocking death in the first season of 'Captain Power'?"
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 6, 2016 12:47:37 GMT -5
It is Punk's job and every other fighter to do interviews when the company sends him to events like this.
Nick Diaz skipped a press conference and he paid dearly by pulling him out of a fight costing him money.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Feb 6, 2016 15:42:54 GMT -5
Eh, he's selling the fight. Well written interview, pretty hyped to watch his debut.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 6, 2016 19:39:47 GMT -5
His opponent just finished off a Golden Gloves champ in about fifteen seconds.
Punk's getting his ass kicked.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Feb 6, 2016 19:41:17 GMT -5
Some Punk apologist wrote this article on Rajah... it may or may not be grammatically correct... {Spoiler}We are all guilty of having a bad day. When you’re in the public eye if you have one prickly exchange with a member of the media or with a fan, then you’re labelled an asshole or a prick. CM Punk may in fact be those things sometimes, but aren’t we all? It’s part of being human. CM Punk was recently interviewed for Complex magazine and apparently he wasn’t thrilled about some of the questions he was asked by writer Kevin Wong. I’ll be the first to admit I come to Punk’s defence because I, like a lot of people, am a HUGE fan. I still miss seeing him on my TV screen every Monday night. There is something so vanilla about the product now. The product needs the kind of grit that only the former leader of the Straight Edge Society and the Chicago made Second City Saint can bring to the table. However, I’m not just a fan of CM Punk when he’s entertaining me in a wrestling ring. I am genuinely interested in whatever he does. It doesn’t matter whether it’s writing comic books or graphic novels or perusing a career in MMA. I’m also a big fan of his wife AJ Lee. I can’t wait to read her memoir when it comes out. Based on the very small portion of their personalities that I have gleamed threw the interviews they have given, I thought it was cool that the two of them found each other and I even marked out a little. Punk’s stepping into an arena that he had limited experience in when the big announcement was made that he would be fighting under the UFC banner. Right from the start there have been so called experts, who have never stepped foot in the octagon, speculating that this man from the fake world of wrestling may have bitten off more than he can chew. Jealous MMA grapplers have been complaining that he moved to the front of the line. The UFC is where countless men and women scrape and claw to be. CM Punk gets a pass to straight to pay per-view because people like me, who have never watched an MMA card, will defiantly want to see Punk’s first fight. Others will want to see him get his ass kicked to prove they were right about him all along. It’s about new eyes and more money. This is a great business move for UFC. If you were busting your ass and giving your all to follow your passion, wouldn’t you get angry and frustrated when all you’re getting is questions and criticism? Kevin Wong asked Punk about weaknesses or flaws he’s working on in training. When Punk told him “I work on everything” Kevin didn’t feel he got enough from the answer so he rephrased it and Punk came back with “It’s a boring answer, because it’s kind of a boring question.” I think Punk gave the right answer. Here is man who, like so many fighters and members of the media have reminded us before, has never had a professional MMA match in his life. Why wouldn’t he be working on every aspect of the craft? It’s a perfectly acceptable answer to me. A question about being anxious or intimidated to be transitioning from the WWE to the UFC gets a response from Punk that shows he’s frustrated “Your question is insulting. You’re asking me if I know the difference between the WWE and the UFC?” Again, I don’t blame Punk for reacting like this. He’s been eating sleeping and breathing his training in preparation for the biggest moment of his life and he’s also been talking a lot to the press. Punk takes this VERY seriously and at this point anyone interviewing him should realize that he’s sick of talking about the WWE and he isn’t naïve about what he’s getting into when it comes to MMA. Yes I’m a CM Punk fan and this whole column might seem like he can do no wrong and everyone else can do no right, but he’s not your conventional role model. If he could smile for the camera and give you the cookie cutter answers to the same questions repeated over and over…..then maybe Vince and company would have put him in the spot that he earned in professional wrestling. I am very grateful that Rajah is giving me this platform to express myself, but in my opinion CM Punk didn’t “flip out when asked about the WWE.” I encourage you to read the article for yourself here. The only thing I do take issue with is the pictures of him wearing a New Jersey Devils t-shirt. Although I guess it balances out with the ones in which he’s sporting a Chicago toque. Go Blackhawks! Sorry if a column called “WWE In Dept” didn’t dig deep into what’s happening in the WWE right now. WrestleMania is on the horizon and we’ll have plenty of time to talk about stuff like….who the hell is Undertaker facing? A Huge shout out to Jeff Martin and Brian Burga for having me on their “High Spot” podcast recently. We spent almost an hour taking about The Royal Rumble, AJ Styles and predicting the card for Mania. You can listen to that episode soundcloud.com/bry-28/the-high-spot-episode-19As always I welcome your feedback. You can email me at johnathanprice@live.ca I really don't understand those defending him. He was fine when the questions were "Oh Mr. Punk, aren't you great?" "You write comic books, that's so cool man, talk to us about that!". He turned into a little bitch when he was very lightly pressed about his weaknesses and challenges he faces, a subject ANY sportsperson has to face at any point during their career. For example, Arsene Wenger is arguably Arsenal's greatest ever football manager, he's been in charge for nearly 20 years and won nearly every trophy up for grabs, he's helped design, finance and build a 60,000 seater stadium and kept the club not only afloat but competitive during those times. All pretty great right? Well you can bet win, lose or draw tomorrow against they'll be 20 or so journalists in a press conference trying to create controversy, criticising and questioning his methods. Arsene will answer all those questions calmly with dignity. CM Punk is a nobody in the MMA world. Most diehards probably think he's a joke, a 'fake wrestler', etc. The ONLY reason he is in the position he is right now is because of his time in WWE. He's signed a lucrative contract with UFC, getting preferential treatment thanks to his WWE career, so don't become a bitch when you're asked about the one thing you're known for. I imagine the diehards who hate wrestling but love UFC see it like we do when a model or meathead gets signed to WWE and is pushed way above their talent level. He comes across as if he believes his own hype, he thinks he's untouchable and doesn't have to answer to anybody. Unfortunately for him, he does. When he spoke about training his verbiage is VERY basic, nothing a kid who's spent two hours on a UFC video game couldn't have come up with and when pushed for specifics he gets angry. For a man who's fancied himself for years to be well versed in Muay Thai that's pretty pathetic. He's either become so arrogant that he believes his own hype or he's terrified of getting found out. He's not being a heel, he's just a prick.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 6, 2016 19:49:02 GMT -5
His opponent just finished off a Golden Gloves champ in about fifteen seconds. Punk's getting his ass kicked. Just watched the replay, the hype train is dead.
A 40 year old with a history of concussions is going a 20 year old with massive knockout power. CM Punk is spending the night on the hospital.
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Post by Andy Martin on Feb 6, 2016 19:49:17 GMT -5
His opponent just finished off a Golden Gloves champ in about fifteen seconds. Punk's getting his ass kicked. AND Gall is a brown belt under Renzo. Makes me wonder if the over/under on rounds is going to be like .5 or something absurd.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 6, 2016 19:50:22 GMT -5
Double post...that handshake, Phil just pissed his pants.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 6, 2016 19:51:51 GMT -5
His opponent just finished off a Golden Gloves champ in about fifteen seconds. Punk's getting his ass kicked. AND Gall is a brown belt under Renzo. Makes me wonder if the over/under on rounds is going to be like .5 or something absurd. Punk is not even a purple belt.
The Renzo Gracie? Like in Renzo Gracie the son of Carlson Gracie and legit black belt that taught Serra and Weidman?
How can any athletic comission can approve this fight? It is a farce.
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Post by Andy Martin on Feb 6, 2016 19:53:27 GMT -5
AND Gall is a brown belt under Renzo. Makes me wonder if the over/under on rounds is going to be like .5 or something absurd. Punk is not even a purple belt.
The Renzo Gracie? Like in Renzo Gracie the son of Carlson Gracie and legit black belt that taught Serra and Weidman?
How can any athletic comission can approve this fight? It is a farce.
Punk's not even a blue belt apparently. And yes, THAT Renzo. Honest to God, I'll probably hammer the under on the total rounds because I don't think it can get low enough.
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 6, 2016 19:54:49 GMT -5
AJ better tell her doctor that Punk may need another appointment, soon.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 6, 2016 20:00:25 GMT -5
Punk is not even a purple belt.
The Renzo Gracie? Like in Renzo Gracie the son of Carlson Gracie and legit black belt that taught Serra and Weidman?
How can any athletic comission can approve this fight? It is a farce.
Punk's not even a blue belt apparently. And yes, THAT Renzo. Honest to God, I'll probably hammer the under on the total rounds because I don't think it can get low enough. Renzo don't train no jabronis, his academy prides itself as prestigious. Gail knocked out a Golden gloves champion. A Golden gloves champion means a legit striker.
Where did this kid came from? I wonder if Dana picked him up thinking it would be a tomato can?
Duke can't create a strategy for this dude, Ben Askren can not teach him enough wrestling, Pettis can't teach him enough striking, and Woodley can't give him power.
This is the end my only friend. I'm watching the ufc network, and the analyst is Mario Delgado, the one who was a guest trainer with Werdum for TUF Latin America, he also has a prestigious bjj academy in Mexico, and he also participated in Abu Dhabi, he said that Punk looked scared. I'm gonna take the expert's point of view.
CM Punk already lost the mental warfare, he's already snake bit.
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 6, 2016 20:05:42 GMT -5
If I was Punk I'd just focus on writing comics. It's much safer than messing with these UFC barbarians. I'd also be a lot nicer and less angry at humanity.
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