Regal: stop "head bumps."

[mrbananagrabber]

Regal shared images of the work he's getting done on his neck and the extent of the damage through the years, and says crowd pops aren't worth dangerous movies when safer moves can get the same effect.

www.wrestlezone.com/news/684655-william-regals-reveals-photos-of-his-recent-neck-x-rays-warns-wrestlers-to-stop-head-bumps-and-to-be-careful-in-the-ring


Guy must be in some amount of pain.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

X-Pac brought this up once but the sad reality of the situation is most young guys won't take this advice seriously until it's too late and they get hurt or witness somebody getting hurt in person. Still, the warnings need to be given so I'm glad he's putting this out there.

[xCompackx]

It's a shitty situation because guys have to do more and more to get noticed/get crowd reactions so you'll have guys constantly diving out of the ring or doing flying headbutts and you combine the fact that a lot of these guys have injuries and shit from before they got signed to WWE as well.

[4TheGlory]

It certainly is a tough thing to do. You want the guys to be safe but at the same if they do every possible thing to keep these guys completely safe, the in ring product would sadly be terrible as a result.

[angryfan]

I think it can be done it just...it takes more effort than WWE is willing to with their production. I LOVE a good chain wrestling match, I think it makes you do more storytelling than just "high spot high spot finish, kick out, high spot", but the announcers pay so little attention to what goes on in the ring, do so little to put over the little things, that the "casual fan" is left to say "oh, this is boring, even the announcers don't care".

Hell, I think the old Dean Malenko brain buster is great, I think a piledriver now and then is a great "serious moment" move, but I can do without them. I'd be fine with "Here's two guys, this is what they're doing this is why it matters, this is why this move means something because it does X", but the short-attention span many fans have (not just the casual fans, but they definitely fall into this category) means that if you don't do something big right the hell now, you will probably lose them, and even after you do something big, you've got to do something else big to keep it going. Sadly,t he big spots now are all dives, high spots, and upper-back/neck bumps.

[lionheart21]

When a legit tough guy like Regal tells you to knock the shit off, you knock the shit off.

[Session Moth is over]

I have felt for along time now that wrestling matches are too fast paced and we don't see enough selling in this day and age.

Regal is right. My favourite match of all time and is considered by most as a classic is Owen vs Bret from Wrestlemania 10. Fantastic story told and hardly a risky insane bump needed.

[The Heartbreak TWERK]

Mar 14, 2016 16:41:11 GMT -5 xCompackx said:

It's a shitty situation because guys have to do more and more to get noticed/get crowd reactions so you'll have guys constantly diving out of the ring or doing flying headbutts and you combine the fact that a lot of these guys have injuries and shit from before they got signed to WWE as well.

The sadder reality is if the booking was better, the guys wouldn't have to work these ludicrous spots to get a "This Is Awesome" chant.

[________ has left the building]

Sadly most young wrestlers won't listen because when you're young, you feel you are indestructible. You do things to your body that you shrug off but regret down the line when the adrenaline rush goes away. I seen plenty of wrestlers do mega stiff headbutts from around the world. Folks who take neck drop bumps like they are Misawa. And we know what happened to Misawa yet folks still take hideous bumps. Daniel Bryan is another example of the past catching up with you. Now watch someone on a wrestling show this weekend do a head bump out of spite to show their toughness.

[Raskovnik]

A match I will always bring up when the topic comes up is Suzuki vs Tanahashi at King of Pro Wrestling. Talk about a modern classic, but it's also way more than that to me. It's also a perfect example of how old school, no-frills matches are absolutely still viable and entertaining. Tanahashi has said before he is attempting to undo the damage years of the King's Road style that led to so many amazing matches yet also to the eventual ruin of many people's bodies throughout the industry in an attempt to top themselves or emulate what they were seeing elsewhere. Hopefully a legend like Regal coming out as well will get some people to listen.


Let's say, just as an example, how some indie goons missed the point of a Burning Hammer and all the buildup to it and started throwing it or other potentially lethal moves in its vein around, then kicking out at 2 to demonstrate their fighting spirit or something because they thought that's what made a good wrestling match. Where the hell do you go from there? It's such poor storytelling, and not only that, it has horrible ramifications on the performers bodies and the industry at large by conditioning fans to only pop for these dangerous spots, but even at that, they're not longer convinced that it'll get a two count anymore! The most recent examples and matches I consider complete trash barring the first one was Owens vs Cena. That's case and point for what I'm talking about. You didn't buy any of those big moves putting the other guy down, and then when the weak ass AA did put him down for the count you were underwhelmed. It does literally no one any favors.

So where do you go from there? You need to slow this shit down, cue the JR jokes. But really. People may have shorter attention spans but only because they've been conditioned to be that way. It'll take some doing but I hope thato enough wrestlers can catch on to it and wrestle a safer yet more involving style than these reckless, paint by numbers spotfests.

[N E O G E O B O Y S]

NEVER

[Nickybojelais]

Rick Martel and Jake Roberts hit about two wrestling moves during their match at Wrestlemania 7, and the crowd were insanely into it, and there wasn't a suicide dive to be seen!

[543Y2J]

Mar 14, 2016 18:17:47 GMT -5 N E O G E O B O Y S said:

NEVER

SUPER AMERICAN WOLF STRONG STYLE GRRRRRRRRR

Also, man that x ray is wild, in the worst way possible I bet the legend and fellow countryman is in so much pain with all that in his neck

[darkjourney]

Mar 14, 2016 18:40:14 GMT -5 Nickybojelais said:

Rick Martel and Jake Roberts hit about two wrestling moves during their match at Wrestlemania 7, and the crowd were insanely into it, and there wasn't a suicide dive to be seen!

Guys used to have ring psychology. Thats a rare attribute today where guys do 500 moves in a 10 minute match.

[Milkman Norm]

Seriously. I have no idea why psychology went away. I don't understand this logic of "people know it's fake, so we have to convince it's not by doing insane things that hurt ourselves and shorten our lives" rather then just going with "people know it's predetermined, let's do what's worked for years"

[MrElijah]

Mar 14, 2016 18:49:28 GMT -5 Milkman Norm said:

Seriously. I have no idea why psychology went away. I don't understand this logic of "people know it's fake, so we have to convince it's not by doing insane things that hurt ourselves and shorten our lives" rather then just going with "people know it's predetermined, let's do what's worked for years"

I think it can go back to the Jr. Heavyweight, Puro & Hardcore style of the 90s. Alot guys were infulenced by those styles but forgot how to built up to those moments. People bust out cutters as mid match moves. DDP showed it HOW you use it, not how MANY.

[111111]

I think the roadblock main event showed you can get as much if not more of a reaction with an actual wrestling match instead of one of these "performance art" style spot fests.

I used to think the old timers complaining about the modern style were out of touch and didn't "get" the current wrestling, but I now think there's merit in what they're saying, the only issue is in the way they usually say it. (I don't mean Regal though, he's always articulate and doesn't resort to putting his point across in a condescending way)

All these injuries at the moment are no coincidence and corrolate to the in ring style. If the workers actually spent time developing their characters they could calm and slow down and get a reaction with storytelling instead of doing ridiculous moves on a weekly basis.

It's not necessarily just the talent that's including the current style part of it is also on the company and some of the fanbase who encourage it.

[Alice Syndrome]

Mar 14, 2016 16:41:11 GMT -5 xCompackx said:

It's a shitty situation because guys have to do more and more to get noticed/get crowd reactions so you'll have guys constantly diving out of the ring or doing flying headbutts and you combine the fact that a lot of these guys have injuries and shit from before they got signed to WWE as well.

It's a massive problem based on "can you top this?" that I mostly blame on AJPW, NOAH and Dragon Gate for escalating. A finisher no longer being a finisher in japan seems to mean "let's do 4 false finishes with it a match", so the wrestlers invent versions that drop the victim right on the head like the Emerald Flowsion Kai and the Tiger Driver 91. And then the Burning Hammer was invented....

[N E O G E O B O Y S]

Which are the risks of the burning hammer?

I'm never capable of watching correctly how the opponent lands

[Raskovnik]

Mar 14, 2016 19:27:24 GMT -5 N E O G E O B O Y S said:

Which are the risks of the burning hammer?

I'm never capable of watching correctly how the opponent lands

Getting dropped directly on your neck. If I remember correctly Misawa always had trouble walking for a few days after taking it and got a stinger from it.