Should Ambrose go over Lesnar?

[Toilet Paper Roll]

Absolutely NOT. Lesnar needs to win to look good, Ambrose doesn't. This match reeks of a ref stoppage.

[TheDieselTrain]

Sorry....not sorry but I hope not

[edgestar]

I like them both, so I am fine with whoever wins. Whatever the turnout is, it would be cool to see them show mutual respect to each other when the match is over

[Crappler El 0 M]

If Ambrose wins, they better follow-it up with a real plan. If he wins, and then goes right back to where he was as Rollins, Cena, and Orton all return, then he shouldn't have won. He should only win if they have a real plan and goal in what to do with him after Mania.

[FinalGwen]

One thing that has to be remembered: If Lesnar wins, regardless of how good Ambrose looks in defeat or whether he gets Lesnar's respect, it isn't going to help when Stephanie cuts a "You couldn't get the job done against Lesnar!" promo and WWE acts like it was a regular old loss.

[Mozenrath]

I have a question for those who say Brock should win: what are they saving up for? It's Wrestlemania, it's a possible establishing moment for Dean, one where Brock could very easily be protected in the loss. What good comes of having Dean play choke artist and Brock just washes his hands of Dean? A win, they could do a rematch, or spin off from there, but if Dean loses, feud's dead in the water and Brock just f***s off for a few months.

[Heartbreaker]

Ambrose NEEDS this. He's always taking the pin for everyone, making everyone else look good. Why can't somebody do it for him? Yeah, Brock is... well, Brock Lesnar. He ended the Undertaker's streak so how much stronger does he need to be booked? Eventually the monster has to be taken down anyway.

Dean Ambrose is on fire right now. They need to keep that going. The perfect way to do that is have him beat Brock Lesnar. Make it a long, tough match where Ambrose has to do everything he can to take down the beast.

[Richard]

For those saying Brock should be protected, he has been, one loss won't hurt him and he will be since this is a hardcore anything goes match.

For those saying Dean never wins so it would be stupid to have him beat Brock, since losing to Reigns at Survivor Series, he is 20-8-4

Of those eight losses
3 Singles losses: Pinned by Roman @ Fastlane, Pinned by Hunter @ Roadblock and DQ'd against Strowman on RAW)
4 Tag Match Losses (including a handicapped) however he was only pinned once, by Sheamus in a 4-on-7 match.
1 "loss" in a multi-man match when Breeze was pinned by Owens costing Dean the IC Title.

So in the 5 or 6 months before Wrestlemania, he will have take a clean pinfall loss 3 times.

*I am not counting the Rumble in this*

In closing, yes, he should win and as cleanly as possible in this match.

[Blindkarevik]

Ambrose/Lesnar is last year's Roman/Lesnar with the proper fan reaction. Lesnar will go into it having his supporters, and I don't think they need to do a full heel turn... but Ambrose has enough fan support where I could see the crowd starting 50/50 but by the end, enough "Holy shit, Ambrose might actually do it" will build up and he'll have the crowd solidly behind him by the end and a pinfall at the end would cause the crowd to absolutely lose their shit.

I'm totally down for the match and am hoping they do go with Ambrose for the win.

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Mar 22, 2016 17:59:51 GMT -5 Ben Wyatt said:

Why do we need to "keep Lesnar strong"? He's already booked as the absolute baddest guy in the company. He's been kept strong as f***. It's time he makes someone a star by being pinned clean. If not Ambrose, who exactly are we "saving" Lesnar for?

He's built up too much to risk having anyone beat him, because they might fail afterwards. They should just have a part-timer do it.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

To me, it comes down to one thing as to why I feel Ambrose should win. If not him...then who? Literally the only other option is Roman Reigns which lol, good luck with that shit. That'd be a legitimate waste because of all the damage that has been done to Roman.

The entire point of keeping Lesnar so strong for so long was so he could lose to someone clean and help elevate that person. It's gotta happen eventually and Dean's the best possible choice on the regular roster.

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Mar 22, 2016 21:49:55 GMT -5 Richard said:

For those saying Brock should be protected, he has been, one loss won't hurt him and he will be since this is a hardcore anything goes match.

For those saying Dean never wins so it would be stupid to have him beat Brock, since losing to Reigns at Survivor Series, he is 20-8-4

Of those eight losses
3 Singles losses: Pinned by Roman @ Fastlane, Pinned by Hunter @ Roadblock and DQ'd against Strowman on RAW)
4 Tag Match Losses (including a handicapped) however he was only pinned once, by Sheamus in a 4-on-7 match.
1 "loss" in a multi-man match when Breeze was pinned by Owens cost Dean the IC Title.

So in the 5 or 6 months before Wrestlemania, he will have take a clean pinball loss 3 times.

*I am not counting the Rumble in this*

In closing, yes, he should win and as cleanly as possible in this match.

It's not really that Dean never wins, he does that a ton, it's more that he never wins when it really counts. Which this is the perfect time to address.

[Final Countdown Jones]

Mar 22, 2016 21:55:00 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

Mar 22, 2016 17:59:51 GMT -5 Ben Wyatt said:

Why do we need to "keep Lesnar strong"? He's already booked as the absolute baddest guy in the company. He's been kept strong as f***. It's time he makes someone a star by being pinned clean. If not Ambrose, who exactly are we "saving" Lesnar for?

He's built up too much to risk having anyone beat him, because they might fail afterwards. They should just have a part-timer do it.

That's terrible logic. Lesnar's rocket push started two years ago when he beat the part-timer. It means absolutely nothing to have Lesnar win and win and win if he's not going to make a star out of someone eventually. Giving that to Rock or Triple H does literally nothing for the product and is another step back in terms of making this new generation of stars matter. Ambrose is huge, he's on the verge of being a top face, and giving him a massive moment at Wrestlemania where he manages to live up to his gimmick and prove a crazy enough motherf***er to beat down Lesnar will f***ing make the dude. The logic of not letting any full time star accomplish anything worthwhile or beat any elite part-timers will only perpetuate the need to keep trucking part-timers out in the first place.

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Mar 22, 2016 21:55:00 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

Mar 22, 2016 17:59:51 GMT -5 Ben Wyatt said:

Why do we need to "keep Lesnar strong"? He's already booked as the absolute baddest guy in the company. He's been kept strong as f***. It's time he makes someone a star by being pinned clean. If not Ambrose, who exactly are we "saving" Lesnar for?

He's built up too much to risk having anyone beat him, because they might fail afterwards. They should just have a part-timer do it.

Someone will eventually beat Lesnar. Having it be a younger talented superstar who will be here years to come makes the most sense. You have another made superstar who can feud with others especially one like Ambrose who's great as a heel, great as a face, great in the ring, great on the mic and has a distinct memorable character.

Having Lesnar's reign be beaten by a part-timer wastes the entire point of Lesnar even beating Taker and Cena.

[Allie Kitsune]

Mar 22, 2016 22:21:05 GMT -5 @kn said:

Mar 22, 2016 21:55:00 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

He's built up too much to risk having anyone beat him, because they might fail afterwards. They should just have a part-timer do it.

Someone will eventually beat Lesnar. Having it be a younger talented superstar who will be here years to come makes the most sense. You have another made superstar who can feud with others especially one like Ambrose who's great as a heel, great as a face, great in the ring, great on the mic and has a distinct memorable character.

Having Lesnar's reign be beaten by a part-timer wastes the entire point of Lesnar even beating Taker and Cena.

If WWE wanted to give the ultimate FU to people, Lesnar's clean loss would be a a flash roll-up from Heath Slater, while the Social Outcasts celebrate out of range from Lesnar's wrath.

[Timeless Hayterade]

I would love to see Dean Ambrose beat Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania. Him beating Lesnar would give me the Eddie/Lesnar vibe. Plus, it would give Ambrose a huge win, something he desperately needs. With this being a match type that is right up Ambrose's alley, him winning would work.

[Tom Turkey]

Mar 22, 2016 22:26:40 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

Mar 22, 2016 22:21:05 GMT -5 @kn said:

Someone will eventually beat Lesnar. Having it be a younger talented superstar who will be here years to come makes the most sense. You have another made superstar who can feud with others especially one like Ambrose who's great as a heel, great as a face, great in the ring, great on the mic and has a distinct memorable character.

Having Lesnar's reign be beaten by a part-timer wastes the entire point of Lesnar even beating Taker and Cena.

If WWE wanted to give the ultimate FU to people, Lesnar's clean loss would be a a flash roll-up from Heath Slater, while the Social Outcasts celebrate out of range from Lesnar's wrath.

Then the following night, Raw is just three hours of the Social Outcasts celebrating Heath's win over Bork.

[sonofblaine]

Absolutely. If they're going to hold Ambrose just below the title picture in favor of Reigns, he should at least get the rub from defeating the Beast Incarnate. Losing the IC title a while back, then losing to Trip as a Pitstop while Roman was out, Ambrose is due for a serious win. Plus, given that everyone is going to shit on the world title match, no matter who wins, and people are already shitting on the Shane/Taker match, the Ambrose/Lesnar street fight is their chance to have an amazing match with a beloved babyface come out on top.

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Mar 22, 2016 22:26:40 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

Mar 22, 2016 22:21:05 GMT -5 @kn said:

Someone will eventually beat Lesnar. Having it be a younger talented superstar who will be here years to come makes the most sense. You have another made superstar who can feud with others especially one like Ambrose who's great as a heel, great as a face, great in the ring, great on the mic and has a distinct memorable character.

Having Lesnar's reign be beaten by a part-timer wastes the entire point of Lesnar even beating Taker and Cena.

If WWE wanted to give the ultimate FU to people, Lesnar's clean loss would be a a flash roll-up from Heath Slater, while the Social Outcasts celebrate out of range from Lesnar's wrath.

Yep.

And have it be on Main Event of all places.

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Mar 22, 2016 21:59:43 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

To me, it comes down to one thing as to why I feel Ambrose should win. If not him...then who? Literally the only other option is Roman Reigns which lol, good luck with that shit. That'd be a legitimate waste because of all the damage that has been done to Roman.

The entire point of keeping Lesnar so strong for so long was so he could lose to someone clean and help elevate that person. It's gotta happen eventually and Dean's the best possible choice on the regular roster.

My longshot hope was always that Cesaro ended up being the guy, he can pretty much go toe to toe with Brock in terms of beast-like athletic feats if Vince could see it, I could picture him beating Brock no strings attached, but that would never happen.

I'm not saying Ambrose couldn't do it either, but if he beats Brock he definitely needs to find a new intensity and stick with it afterwards because if he cuts an "aaaww shucks looks like Sheriff crazy pants could do it after all" promo and goes back to calling Seth Rollins "Justin Bieber," losing to main eventers and all that, then I'm not sure that comedown is worth the high of him beating Brock in the first place. Given recent booking I just don't see WWE doing that. Beating Brock Lesnar has become the defacto streak to beat since beating the Undertaker so if he gets beat, I'd like to see it be done with a plan because you can only make these big time moves once every few years.