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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 25, 2016 6:13:50 GMT -5
There's absolutely no reason why not. Lesnar winning does nothing for either man.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Mar 25, 2016 9:08:52 GMT -5
Yes
Ambrose is ready to have a rocket strapped to his arse. Have him go over Lesnar and get a big push.
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Post by darkjourney on Mar 25, 2016 12:17:09 GMT -5
Absolutely not! While I'm an Ambrose fan, it will make Lesnar look awful losing to a guy who's lost 13 PPVs since going solo from The Shield! Great point.. Ambrose almost NEVER wins and now hes going to go over Lesnar? Ive said before, people are under the assumption that Ambrose will be built from here but no doubt he is going to take a backseat to Reigns or Wyatt (Word is Wyatt is deemed ready for a push after Mania) and Cena maybe even Orton too when Orton comes back. He may even take a backseat to Owens. The problem is they won't build on Ambrose as a CONSISTENT main eventer after Mania with guys returning. So unless Ambrose catches on like Austin (Won't happen) and draw crazy ratings, the Mcmahons will push who they want. Austin was too hot to be denied and drawing too strong and the Mcmahons were in a battle with another company. They own the playing field now so there is no reason to push who the fans want like back in the Austin days The best thing to do is have Ambrose takes Lesnar to the edge and come up short since we know the Mcmahons don't like looking pushing who the fans want. How mean how many examples of this do we have?? (Reigns, Sheamus, Del Rio,... The list goes on and on) Lesnar needs to be kept strong for whoever the true top face is going to be. And it won't be Ambrose. Since they have shown they aren't interested in Ambrose to the degree of other guys
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Mar 25, 2016 12:25:34 GMT -5
At this point, who are you saving him for? Bryan's done and the fans will never accept Roman doing it.
Whoever DOES beat him finally isn't going to be even CLOSE to as protected as Brock is.
I was joking when I said it before, but damn, if they DON'T let Ambrose do it, I'd seriously want them to go through with the Heath Slater surprise roll-up.
Heath has already knocked off a bunch of former World Champions, may as well add Brock to his list.
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Post by benstudd on Mar 25, 2016 12:31:35 GMT -5
If Ambrose don't win, it would have been pointless. He would be at the same place he was before the match.
Given that it's a hardcore match, you can have Dean win and Brock being protected cause you don't look like a pussy if you've been hit by big objects.
In my opinion the WWE are so afraid that anybody overshadow Roman that they won't have Dean win. Cause him winning would be huge and would place him as number one contender. They'd rather have Roman be the one that defeats Brock.
I'm pretty sure that's what they are thinking.
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Post by benstudd on Mar 25, 2016 12:35:52 GMT -5
To me, it comes down to one thing as to why I feel Ambrose should win. If not him...then who? Literally the only other option is Roman Reigns which lol, good luck with that shit. That'd be a legitimate waste because of all the damage that has been done to Roman. The entire point of keeping Lesnar so strong for so long was so he could lose to someone clean and help elevate that person. It's gotta happen eventually and Dean's the best possible choice on the regular roster. That's the thing. I'm betting the WWE wants to keep that Brock loss for Reigns.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 12:49:15 GMT -5
Yeah they were saving Brock for Roman and obviously that shit ain't gonna work. Ambrose needs to be established anyway. This company has a problem with making stars. He's arguably the most over face on the roster, he's only 30, he's a great talker, great in the ring, great character with a great personality, has faced off against legends such as Taker/HHH/Cena/Lesnar, tied to Reigns and Rollins who are other 2 major stars, can work face and heel. It's just building towards the future if you get Ambrose over here. Common sense really. Ambrose should go over Lesnar.
Also another problem I see in this thread is that those against it keep saying "he won't go over Lesnar" as if the title isn't "should" Ambrose go over Lesnar. Should is different from won't. Besides that, everybody knows it only takes 1 credible win to make someone legit in this company. You can lose every match for a year and be the weakest on the roster and win 1 major match and be a monster.
Again, this should be common sense stuff. Ambrose should go over Lesnar.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Mar 25, 2016 12:51:13 GMT -5
Man, Reigns turning heel and feuding with Ambrose, eventually putting him over the WWE title? That's like a blueprint for a top face. WWE's stumbled into a situation where all the pieces are in place. Again. Was it you who suggested that Reigns turn heel by beating Trips senseless and to an unsettling degree? Put the McMahons on the back burner, let Shane/Bryan/Cena would be great at it/whoever as the new face authority figure, and have Reigns go on a goon tear as the world champion until he defends against Ambrose The Brock Killer at Summerslam. There ya go.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 13:01:06 GMT -5
Man, Reigns turning heel and feuding with Ambrose, eventually putting him over the WWE title? That's like a blueprint for a top face. WWE's stumbled into a situation where all the pieces are in place. Again. Was it you who suggested that Reigns turn heel by beating Trips senseless and to an unsettling degree? Put the McMahons on the back burner, let Shane/Bryan/Cena would be great at it/whoever as the new face authority figure, and have Reigns go on a goon tear as the world champion until he defends against Ambrose The Brock Killer at Summerslam. There ya go. To add to this they can say "Ambrose beat Lesnar while Reigns was getting smacked around the whole match" which causes Reigns to be worried a bit. It's story progression.
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Post by joeiscool on Mar 25, 2016 13:20:26 GMT -5
Absolutely not! While I'm an Ambrose fan, it will make Lesnar look awful losing to a guy who's lost 13 PPVs since going solo from The Shield! Great point.. Ambrose almost NEVER wins and now hes going to go over Lesnar? Ive said before, people are under the assumption that Ambrose will be built from here but no doubt he is going to take a backseat to Reigns or Wyatt (Word is Wyatt is deemed ready for a push after Mania) and Cena maybe even Orton too when Orton comes back. He may even take a backseat to Owens. The problem is they won't build on Ambrose as a CONSISTENT main eventer after Mania with guys returning. So unless Ambrose catches on like Austin (Won't happen) and draw crazy ratings, the Mcmahons will push who they want. Austin was too hot to be denied and drawing too strong and the Mcmahons were in a battle with another company. They own the playing field now so there is no reason to push who the fans want like back in the Austin days The best thing to do is have Ambrose takes Lesnar to the edge and come up short since we know the Mcmahons don't like looking pushing who the fans want. How mean how many examples of this do we have?? (Reigns, Sheamus, Del Rio,... The list goes on and on) Lesnar needs to be kept strong for whoever the true top face is going to be. And it won't be Ambrose. Since they have shown they aren't interested in Ambrose to the degree of other guys If you don't think Ambrose isn't going to be champ in the next year or so you're not paying attention.
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Post by darkjourney on Mar 25, 2016 16:49:38 GMT -5
Great point.. Ambrose almost NEVER wins and now hes going to go over Lesnar? Ive said before, people are under the assumption that Ambrose will be built from here but no doubt he is going to take a backseat to Reigns or Wyatt (Word is Wyatt is deemed ready for a push after Mania) and Cena maybe even Orton too when Orton comes back. He may even take a backseat to Owens. The problem is they won't build on Ambrose as a CONSISTENT main eventer after Mania with guys returning. So unless Ambrose catches on like Austin (Won't happen) and draw crazy ratings, the Mcmahons will push who they want. Austin was too hot to be denied and drawing too strong and the Mcmahons were in a battle with another company. They own the playing field now so there is no reason to push who the fans want like back in the Austin days The best thing to do is have Ambrose takes Lesnar to the edge and come up short since we know the Mcmahons don't like looking pushing who the fans want. How mean how many examples of this do we have?? (Reigns, Sheamus, Del Rio,... The list goes on and on) Lesnar needs to be kept strong for whoever the true top face is going to be. And it won't be Ambrose. Since they have shown they aren't interested in Ambrose to the degree of other guys If you don't think Ambrose isn't going to be champ in the next year or so you're not paying attention. Who knows. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. Maybe it will be a lousy short term reign too. the Mcmahons promote and push who THEY want at the end of the day (not what the fans want) since they have no competition or else you haven't been paying attention the last decade either. The only reason Bryan was pushed was because fans started hijacking shows. They had no choice but to put the strap on him.. But then what? They immediately put him in a crappy feud with Kane and his wife. Now you got 50 year old HHH as champion (Yea the fans have been clamoring for that). The Mcmahons continue to get more and more TV time than their own talent and the authority shit continues on (Despite dropping ratings). Again.. the Mcmahons do what THEY want With Cena come back soon, Orton coming back, Rollins coming back, Reigns still being pushed to the moon (despite the fans not wanting it), and Wyatt in line for a reported huge push after Mania, I suspect Ambrose will get thrown to the back of the bus
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