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Post by sonofblaine on Apr 2, 2016 15:18:47 GMT -5
I watch wrestling on my laptop while playing the WWE video games, playing as I keep one eye on the show. From Zayn's entrance to the cut away after the match, game was paused and eyes glued. It was the match I was looking forward to and did not dissapoint.
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Post by Vern on Apr 2, 2016 15:31:33 GMT -5
This guy... Sorry, I don't get the hype. He's eccentric to the point of kind of annoying. In ring he's pretty good, but I've seen wrestlers who use strikes and you can only make them look so good. If he showed up on the main roster, you'd have the Krusty "WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT" look on 7/10 of your audience. Sure it was one match and his first impression was one of it wouldn't kill me if I never saw him wrestle again. Zayn was absolutely fantastic and that guy has continued to win me over to the point where he's one of my favorite wrestlers. Sorry if this offends you for having a different opinion, I'm not somebody that watches any Indy or Japanese wrestling to give you some background on the basis of my opinion. If you're not somebody that watches any Indy or Japanese wrestling then it's basis is that it's simply an uninformed opinion. All good, it's your choice what you watch. You're not a bad person for only watching WWE or whatever, just be aware there's a fine line between sharing thoughts and showing ignorance when sharing uninformed opinions. |
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Apr 2, 2016 15:48:05 GMT -5
This guy... Sorry, I don't get the hype. He's eccentric to the point of kind of annoying. In ring he's pretty good, but I've seen wrestlers who use strikes and you can only make them look so good. If he showed up on the main roster, you'd have the Krusty "WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT" look on 7/10 of your audience. Sure it was one match and his first impression was one of it wouldn't kill me if I never saw him wrestle again. Zayn was absolutely fantastic and that guy has continued to win me over to the point where he's one of my favorite wrestlers. Sorry if this offends you for having a different opinion, I'm not somebody that watches any Indy or Japanese wrestling to give you some background on the basis of my opinion. If you're not somebody that watches any Indy or Japanese wrestling then it's basis is that it's simply an uninformed opinion. All good, it's your choice what you watch. You're not a bad person for only watching WWE or whatever, just be aware there's a fine line between sharing thoughts and showing ignorance when sharing uninformed opinions. It's based on what I saw, so sorry that I don't have time to watch all these matches/wrestling companies or "do homework" on a wrestler before watching him. I watch mainly WWE/NXT and that's it. I've heard of wrestlers through the internet/word of mouth so I had heard of Nakamura and the hype that he had prior to this match. I was expecting big big things based on what I had heard, and while his match was Zayn was admittedly really really good and 2nd only to the tag match on the Takeover card for me, Nakamura's mannerisms didn't really do anything for me and kind of detracted because of the eccentricity. Not everybody is going to be a hit for everybody right. Maybe he'll win me over, maybe he won't. It's not being ignorant at all, it's based on the impression he gave me. |
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Apr 2, 2016 15:50:24 GMT -5
This guy... Sorry, I don't get the hype. He's eccentric to the point of kind of annoying. In ring he's pretty good, but I've seen wrestlers who use strikes and you can only make them look so good. If he showed up on the main roster, you'd have the Krusty "WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT" look on 7/10 of your audience. Sure it was one match and his first impression was one of it wouldn't kill me if I never saw him wrestle again. Zayn was absolutely fantastic and that guy has continued to win me over to the point where he's one of my favorite wrestlers. Sorry if this offends you for having a different opinion, I'm not somebody that watches any Indy or Japanese wrestling to give you some background on the basis of my opinion. While I respect your opinion even if I don't really agree at all, I don't see how you can hear that reaction he got, and expect 7/10 of the audience to not buy into him. The dude was an instant star with the crowd and almost every single person who watched.
Yeah, it takes work to make strikes look good, and when you may be the best active striker in professional wrestling, it's pretty easy to do so... and that is Nakamura.
If he isn't your cup of tea fine, but don't act like you speak for 7/10ths of the crowd... because I believe I heard a "FIGHT FOREVER" chant for both Zayn and Nakamura, a chant no one, not even on NXT, has ever gotten. An NXT crowd and a WWE crowd are two very different things. Nakamura's reception in Brooklyn, NY is going to be so much different than Nakamura's reception in Des Moines, IA. I'm not acting like I speak for anybody, but the crowd makeup is completely different between WWE and NXT. |
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Post by Ringmaster on Apr 2, 2016 15:55:38 GMT -5
The stratosphere heights of holding the U.S title for a bit while sometimes tagging with Roman and eventually jobbing to Cena in match where he finally earns his respect. Uh huh. Oh shit Cena Vs. Nakamura would be so good! Its not Tanahashi but I'll take it. As long as Nakamura looks good in the defeat, amirite |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 15:59:01 GMT -5
 This is the tag team/feud I never knew I wanted until yesterday. |
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Apr 2, 2016 16:20:09 GMT -5
Uh huh. Oh shit Cena Vs. Nakamura would be so good! Its not Tanahashi but I'll take it. As long as Nakamura looks good in the defeat, amirite Sure whatever floats your boat. That match would be amaaaaaaazing though. |
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Post by Vern on Apr 2, 2016 16:20:12 GMT -5
If you're not somebody that watches any Indy or Japanese wrestling then it's basis is that it's simply an uninformed opinion. All good, it's your choice what you watch. You're not a bad person for only watching WWE or whatever, just be aware there's a fine line between sharing thoughts and showing ignorance when sharing uninformed opinions. It's based on what I saw, so sorry that I don't have time to watch all these matches/wrestling companies or "do homework" on a wrestler before watching him. I watch mainly WWE/NXT and that's it. I've heard of wrestlers through the internet/word of mouth so I had heard of Nakamura and the hype that he had prior to this match. I was expecting big big things based on what I had heard, and while his match was Zayn was admittedly really really good and 2nd only to the tag match on the Takeover card for me, Nakamura's mannerisms didn't really do anything for me and kind of detracted because of the eccentricity. Not everybody is going to be a hit for everybody right. Maybe he'll win me over, maybe he won't. It's not being ignorant at all, it's based on the impression he gave me. You said "Sorry, I don't get the hype." followed by "I'm not somebody that watches any Indy or Japanese wrestling". I don't fault you for not liking Nakamura (to each his own), but by your own admission your opinion is uninformed. ...this made your " Sorry if this offends you for having a different opinion" come off a bit douchey and presumptuous. I'd given you the benefit of the doubt. I thought maybe I was just reading something into your comment that wasn't there, but your "I don't have time to ... do homework" comment just now verified my initial thought. You're preemptively defending yourself against a non-existent backlash man, and the way you're doing so is pretty lame. Just enjoy watching whomever you want. |
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Post by alexwrightspackage on Apr 2, 2016 16:28:32 GMT -5
I rarely rewatch films. Even more rare I replay story-based games. I never re-read books. I rewatched a wrestling match in its entirety after it finished. First time I have ever done that in the same day. I've rewatched moments soon after--Austin clearing house to help Mankind win the title, Hollywood Hulk Hogan hulking up against Rock af Mania, Eddie winning against Brock--but I've never just sat there and rewatched an entire match afted seeing it hours before. The matches before better be happy they didn't follow that, and Asuka/Bayley can only be glad that they were just awesome enough right after. I'll need time to let it sink to consider it as my favourite match ever, and while the crowd, the storytelling and Sami were of course important, Shinsuke ARRIVED in front of the world last night. So yeah, I have some appreciation  |
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Apr 2, 2016 16:31:47 GMT -5
I watched it, and was amazed. I watched it a second time, and was just as amazed.
But the more telling reaction was when my cousin watched it. He enjoys wrestling, but doesn't go out of his way to watch and knows nothing outside of the WWE bubble. He was in awe of Nakamura, and after the match ended the other end of the Xbox line just went silent. After a minute I said "You there?" And the response was "Sorry. I was just legit speechless. After that finisher my jaw dropped. That was the best match I have ever seen."
He's special, and I cannot wait to see more!
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Apr 2, 2016 16:32:42 GMT -5
It's based on what I saw, so sorry that I don't have time to watch all these matches/wrestling companies or "do homework" on a wrestler before watching him. I watch mainly WWE/NXT and that's it. I've heard of wrestlers through the internet/word of mouth so I had heard of Nakamura and the hype that he had prior to this match. I was expecting big big things based on what I had heard, and while his match was Zayn was admittedly really really good and 2nd only to the tag match on the Takeover card for me, Nakamura's mannerisms didn't really do anything for me and kind of detracted because of the eccentricity. Not everybody is going to be a hit for everybody right. Maybe he'll win me over, maybe he won't. It's not being ignorant at all, it's based on the impression he gave me. You said "Sorry, I don't get the hype." followed by "I'm not somebody that watches any Indy or Japanese wrestling". I don't fault you for not liking Nakamura (to each his own), but by your own admission your opinion is uninformed. ...this made your " Sorry if this offends you for having a different opinion" come off a bit douchey and presumptuous. I'd given you the benefit of the doubt. I thought maybe I was just reading something into your comment that wasn't there, but your "I don't have time to ... do homework" comment just now verified my initial thought. You're preemptively defending yourself against a non-existent backlash man, and the way you're doing so is pretty lame. Just enjoy watching whomever you want. ok |
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Post by Raskovnik on Apr 2, 2016 16:39:12 GMT -5
Eh, I'm sure if you have the hours for Raw that you might be able to swap that out for some classic Nakamura matches so you could see why he has so many fans, if you really want to see what the fuss is about. Not like you won't miss anything they won't recap a million times, if anything happens there in the first place. I'm all for conflicting opinions because people feel differently about things which makes things more interesting to discuss but that's something else entirely. That's just kind of stirring the pot.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Apr 2, 2016 16:52:47 GMT -5
It's based on what I saw, so sorry that I don't have time to watch all these matches/wrestling companies or "do homework" on a wrestler before watching him. I watch mainly WWE/NXT and that's it. I've heard of wrestlers through the internet/word of mouth so I had heard of Nakamura and the hype that he had prior to this match. I was expecting big big things based on what I had heard, and while his match was Zayn was admittedly really really good and 2nd only to the tag match on the Takeover card for me, Nakamura's mannerisms didn't really do anything for me and kind of detracted because of the eccentricity. Not everybody is going to be a hit for everybody right. Maybe he'll win me over, maybe he won't. It's not being ignorant at all, it's based on the impression he gave me. You said "Sorry, I don't get the hype." followed by "I'm not somebody that watches any Indy or Japanese wrestling". I don't fault you for not liking Nakamura (to each his own), but by your own admission your opinion is uninformed. ...this made your " Sorry if this offends you for having a different opinion" come off a bit douchey and presumptuous. I'd given you the benefit of the doubt. I thought maybe I was just reading something into your comment that wasn't there, but your "I don't have time to ... do homework" comment just now verified my initial thought. You're preemptively defending yourself against a non-existent backlash man, and the way you're doing so is pretty lame. Just enjoy watching whomever you want. Ehhh. I hadn't seen Nakamura in over a decade until this match and LOVED him in it, do I need to watch other matches of his to be sure of my opinion? No. By the same token, this guy doesn't need to see Nakamura's previous work to be able to say that, on the basis of THIS showing, he doesn't get it. If previous work was all we needed to form opinions, Zayn would be getting better Raw reactions. As it is, that very "I dont have to justify myself, look up the previous work and dont be so ignorant" attitude is the reason his feud with Owens isn't gaining traction- because the majority of the roster haven't seen or been told any reason to care. I loved Shinsuke based on this match, he's instantly become a guy I can't wait to see when he was previously a guy who I knew nothing about beyond "He does weird poses in some photos, and has a nice knee strike". If people can become overnight fans from 1 match, people are allowed to go "I'm not impressed yet" from 1 match. It's not writing him off, but if 1 match didn't endear somebody? It didn't endear them. People are allowed different opinions, this is fundamentally about men in tights pretending to murder each other, it's a silly artform that doesn't have uniform right or wrong perspectives. Again I am hooked by Nakamura from this match, but does that mean everybody has to be? No. And does that mean everybody has a duty to watch previous matches to "correct" their opinion of this match? No. |
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Post by Vern on Apr 2, 2016 17:15:51 GMT -5
You said "Sorry, I don't get the hype." followed by "I'm not somebody that watches any Indy or Japanese wrestling". I don't fault you for not liking Nakamura (to each his own), but by your own admission your opinion is uninformed. ...this made your " Sorry if this offends you for having a different opinion" come off a bit douchey and presumptuous. I'd given you the benefit of the doubt. I thought maybe I was just reading something into your comment that wasn't there, but your "I don't have time to ... do homework" comment just now verified my initial thought. You're preemptively defending yourself against a non-existent backlash man, and the way you're doing so is pretty lame. Just enjoy watching whomever you want. Ehhh. I hadn't seen Nakamura in over a decade until this match and LOVED him in it, do I need to watch other matches of his to be sure of my opinion? No. By the same token, this guy doesn't need to see Nakamura's previous work to be able to say that, on the basis of THIS showing, he doesn't get it. If previous work was all we needed to form opinions, Zayn would be getting better Raw reactions. As it is, that very "I dont have to justify myself, look up the previous work and dont be so ignorant" attitude is the reason his feud with Owens isn't gaining traction- because the majority of the roster haven't seen or been told any reason to care. I loved Shinsuke based on this match, he's instantly become a guy I can't wait to see when he was previously a guy who I knew nothing about beyond "He does weird poses in some photos, and has a nice knee strike". If people can become overnight fans from 1 match, people are allowed to go "I'm not impressed yet" from 1 match. It's not writing him off, but if 1 match didn't endear somebody? It didn't endear them. People are allowed different opinions, this is fundamentally about men in tights pretending to murder each other, it's a silly artform that doesn't have uniform right or wrong perspectives. Again I am hooked by Nakamura from this match, but does that mean everybody has to be? No. And does that mean everybody has a duty to watch previous matches to "correct" their opinion of this match? No. ok |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 17:29:53 GMT -5
I've watched this match twice it holds up on the second viewing, excellent. If I'm gonna 5 star it, I have to give it at least 4 1/2 stars. Really good. This is coming from someone that has long since stopped following anything outside the WWE and only has seen nakamura in some random youtube matches you guys have linked recently before he came in for this.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 17:45:05 GMT -5
Arigatou gozaimasu. Sugoi, Nakamura-san.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Apr 2, 2016 17:54:17 GMT -5
I've lost count how many times I've listened to his theme or watched his entrance today. Totally hyped for the guy.
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Post by lionheart21 on Apr 2, 2016 17:59:31 GMT -5
Just imagine how a match between Nakamura and Joe would be. Not sure if either of them would survive.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Apr 2, 2016 18:18:42 GMT -5
We actually got that match during Brock's run in New Japan.  I watched that on You Tube.... Him NOW versus current "The Form of The Destructor Has Been Chosen" Brock though? My god....I'd mark for days and days... They should make it happen again if there's another Japan special. |
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Apr 2, 2016 18:19:45 GMT -5
Just imagine how a match between Nakamura and Joe would be. Not sure if either of them would survive. The fight goes into the crowd where people die by the dozens. Joe is gonna kill you takes on a new meaning. Their strikes collide inducing a blast not seen since DBZ. |
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