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Post by Waffel113 on Dec 7, 2016 20:26:58 GMT -5
I'll give this to Will, he's taking his ouster like a champ. So long, dude.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 20:41:41 GMT -5
That Will vote was almost as obvious as Roger's exit in the Amazon.
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Post by Waffel113 on Dec 7, 2016 20:43:06 GMT -5
Surely they wouldn't burn the David boot on a double-boot episode...right?
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Post by Waffel113 on Dec 7, 2016 20:55:00 GMT -5
So, our final six:
Adam Bret David Hannah Jay Ken
Should be a hell of a finish. In theory, I can see any of them winning, save Bret.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 7, 2016 20:56:24 GMT -5
ah man, are we looking at a no-goat final 3? I mean someone is obviously going to get little votes but maybe besides Brett everyone who ends up sitting at final tribal will get there on their own merits and won't be brought to it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 21:03:37 GMT -5
That was an absolute best case scenario episode. So pumped for the finale now.
It's been a great season.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Dec 7, 2016 21:23:28 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think Bret's got a chance. I think he's coasted a little too much.
I still think Adam is overthinking things a little too much. He's making things more difficult than they need to be.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Dec 7, 2016 21:31:00 GMT -5
Season reminds me a bit like Cambodia where you got a lot of people obsessed with making "big moves" and building their resume not realizing they are leaving people they can't beat to make the end.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 21:31:11 GMT -5
I hope Adam and Jay stay friends. I love the relationship those two guys have.
My best case finale scenario would be Brett out first, then Hannah, and then Jay. Adam, David, Ken final 3. I actually think Jay has a better shot to win than Ken, but Jay could beat Adam and David, and I'd rather see one of them win. Pulling for Adam the most though.
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Post by Waffel113 on Dec 8, 2016 9:25:00 GMT -5
Before this thread goes into hibernation for the next week, I'd just like to say that the second challenge was one of the best challenges they've come up with in quite some time.
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Post by sfvega on Dec 8, 2016 9:34:56 GMT -5
His personal story aside, Adam is a little bitch. He plays the game with no balls and no real cunning. Him helping Ken in the IC is the quintessential Adam move.
How HAVE David and Ken come out so unscathed? Yeah, David had the Zeke showdown, but he's such a huge target because his fingerprints are all over the game. Not to mention he's a well-spoken writer. Do you really want to plead your case to the jury against him as well as the effect he's had on the game? And Ken, who I'm rooting for, has a pretty clean game as well.
Hannah is just crazy for sticking with Ken and David. She just keeps not entertaining the idea of breaking up their alliance, but she's far and away the 3rd in that Final 3. She claims it's strategy, but she's playing with her heart more than her head. Especially as it pertains to Ken, who is dreamy.
Sunday? Who tf votes her out? She's the most useless of anyone left. Kind of a weird target.
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Post by King Boo on Dec 8, 2016 9:38:39 GMT -5
His personal story aside, Adam is a little bitch. He plays the game with no balls and no real cunning. Him helping Ken in the IC is the quintessential Adam move. How HAVE David and Ken come out so unscathed? Yeah, David had the Zeke showdown, but he's such a huge target because his fingerprints are all over the game. Not to mention he's a well-spoken writer. Do you really want to plead your case to the jury against him as well as the effect he's had on the game? And Ken, who I'm rooting for, has a pretty clean game as well. Hannah is just crazy for sticking with Ken and David. She just keeps not entertaining the idea of breaking up their alliance, but she's far and away the 3rd in that Final 3. She claims it's strategy, but she's playing with her heart more than her head. Especially as it pertains to Ken, who is dreamy. Sunday? Who tf votes her out? She's the most useless of anyone left. Kind of a weird target.Hannah's looking at it like if there's a final three but people are intent on taking Sunday, that they're really only fighting for two spots. I get it, even if it's not necessarily the move I'd make.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Dec 8, 2016 10:57:23 GMT -5
Season reminds me a bit like Cambodia where you got a lot of people obsessed with making "big moves" and building their resume not realizing they are leaving people they can't beat to make the end. That's pretty much been the show's mantra in recent years, which is concerning from many angles. I've said it once, and I'll say it again: making big moves does not automatically translate into good gameplay. Hopefully Will learned that lesson (although, let's face it, he probably didn't).
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Post by trollrogue on Dec 8, 2016 11:32:37 GMT -5
It's the Big Move Gameplay that makes great seasons, tho. Hannah just convinced Adam to release David from his triggerhairs, BC she wanted to save an ally. That's something to brag about at Final Tribal.
Adam convinced Jay to use his idol bc he decided to reveal a secret about his real life to force a personal connection. Scummy move perhaps, but ELITE gameplay indubitably.
David has somehow been dodging bullets since the very first tribal this season when he was a huge target for his paranoia (hunting for an idol within minutes). He's played the hardest aside from Jay since the beginning, and is the only guy who correctly used his (first) hidden idol this season. He might win automatically unless the jury is biased for Jay (Tayls and Michelle might poison the Ponderosa)
Jay joins David and Adam for the trifecta of wasting an immunity idol. Really curious why nobody has been looking for new idols since one's been burned for the past 3 episodes. Jay is almost a lock for individual immunity till the end unless Adam bitches him over again with Ken.
Ken doesn't win against David or Jay, his only shot is taking Brett and Hannah to the end, then he has more friends on the jury than the other two.
Hannah's move might make her into the F3 but like Ken she needs Brett alongside her and Ken or Adam. She can't beat Jay or David and I get why she targeted Sunday but David might have screwed her game up since she's trying to get to the end along with him, rather than with-or-without. Adam made himself enemies when he helped out Ken in the challenge so if she goes with Adam and Brett I think she has the $1M.
Brett has no shot. He flops like the wind and all of his attempts to maintain any real alliance evaporated with Sunday's exit.
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Post by Some Guy on Dec 8, 2016 12:33:33 GMT -5
I honestly don't see any way that Ken wins. He has maybe David and Jessica from their age old alliance, but everyone else (primarily Will) has mentioned how he's just kind of this dull guy who everyone seems to keep around because they know he won't win in the end. Hannah would probably get more votes simply because she's more likable.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Dec 8, 2016 12:40:58 GMT -5
It's the Big Move Gameplay that makes great seasons, tho. Hannah just convinced Adam to release David from his triggerhairs, BC she wanted to save an ally. That's something to brag about at Final Tribal. Adam convinced Jay to use his idol bc he decided to reveal a secret about his real life to force a personal connection. Scummy move perhaps, but ELITE gameplay indubitably. David has somehow been dodging bullets since the very first tribal this season when he was a huge target for his paranoia (hunting for an idol within minutes). He's played the hardest aside from Jay since the beginning, and is the only guy who correctly used his (first) hidden idol this season. He might win automatically unless the jury is biased for Jay (Tayls and Michelle might poison the Ponderosa) Jay joins David and Adam for the trifecta of wasting an immunity idol. Really curious why nobody has been looking for new idols since one's been burned for the past 3 episodes. Jay is almost a lock for individual immunity till the end unless Adam bitches him over again with Ken. Ken doesn't win against David or Jay, his only shot is taking Brett and Hannah to the end, then he has more friends on the jury than the other two. Hannah's move might make her into the F3 but like Ken she needs Brett alongside her and Ken or Adam. She can't beat Jay or David and I get why she targeted Sunday but David might have screwed her game up since she's trying to get to the end along with him, rather than with-or-without. Adam made himself enemies when he helped out Ken in the challenge so if she goes with Adam and Brett I think she has the $1M. Brett has no shot. He flops like the wind and all of his attempts to maintain any real alliance evaporated with Sunday's exit. Certainly nobody would argue that big moves can't make for entertaining television. Good gameplay can be enthralling, but it can also be just as boring. For example: Boston Rob running roughshod over 17 flesh puppets assembled in the labs of Mark Burnett Inc. programmed to give him the million dollars. But reducing the game to making the flashiest moves possible would be to neglect other key components that got even less regarded winners jury votes. Jay is actually a fine example. Yes, he has made some big moves, but he's also made a few subtle ones that have situated him well even when it appeared he would be the next person voted out on more than one occasion. He hasn't been likable at times, but never in a way that would completely alienate him from the other contestants.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 8, 2016 13:21:08 GMT -5
I honestly don't see any way that Ken wins. He has maybe David and Jessica from their age old alliance, but everyone else (primarily Will) has mentioned how he's just kind of this dull guy who everyone seems to keep around because they know he won't win in the end. Hannah would probably get more votes simply because she's more likable. Maybe he does? Did any of us think Michelle would win last season? I like Ken but he hasn't done anything of note yet receives enough air time like Michelle to keep him from being anonymous. Plus there's the legacy advantage. I'm starting to like his chances all of the sudden but maybe that's the nerd in me trying to make editing conspiracy theories
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Post by Some Guy on Dec 8, 2016 13:24:38 GMT -5
I honestly don't see any way that Ken wins. He has maybe David and Jessica from their age old alliance, but everyone else (primarily Will) has mentioned how he's just kind of this dull guy who everyone seems to keep around because they know he won't win in the end. Hannah would probably get more votes simply because she's more likable. Maybe he does? Did any of us think Michelle would win last season? I like Ken but he hasn't done anything of note yet receives enough air time like Michelle to keep him from being anonymous. Plus there's the legacy advantage. I'm starting to like his chances all of the sudden but maybe that's the nerd in me trying to make editing conspiracy theories Michelle's point last season was that EVERYONE liked her. She made friends with everyone, had conversations with everyone and just played a really smart social game. Ken has no social skills at all.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 8, 2016 13:26:41 GMT -5
Maybe he does? Did any of us think Michelle would win last season? I like Ken but he hasn't done anything of note yet receives enough air time like Michelle to keep him from being anonymous. Plus there's the legacy advantage. I'm starting to like his chances all of the sudden but maybe that's the nerd in me trying to make editing conspiracy theories Michelle's point last season was that EVERYONE liked her. She made friends with everyone, had conversations with everyone and just played a really smart social game. Ken has no social skills at all. On that same token, I don't think anyone dislikes Ken
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Post by Rocky Raccoon on Dec 8, 2016 13:39:33 GMT -5
Michelle's point last season was that EVERYONE liked her. She made friends with everyone, had conversations with everyone and just played a really smart social game. Ken has no social skills at all. On that same token, I don't think anyone dislikes Ken I don't think anyone flat-out dislikes him, but Ken's method of testing Will was one of the stupidest things I've ever seen anyone do.
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