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Post by Welfare Willis on Oct 5, 2016 22:48:14 GMT -5
I just thought of something: What if Billy Corgan's rebranding for TNA is it becoming Global Force Wrestling? Double J already got everything but an actual roster and tv. If things go as planned, Billy would have a majority of the roster's contract and TV contracts. I sense the TNA brand and Impact Wrestling brand will be part of the WWE deal so no one be using those names for shows or company. Double J did tweet about big news coming soon. So either this is the plan or the latest shipment of Karen Jarrett 8x12s came in. And really, beyond the name, what does Global offer?  GOLD! |
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Post by Reflecto on Oct 5, 2016 23:03:42 GMT -5
So if true.. Looks likely but still not confirmed  What get's added to the WWE Network? Guessing all PPVs are a given.. But will they add all Impacts or just a selection of good matches? I'm sure it'll be a slow roll-out like the Nitros have been. Probably a collection first, and then a year-by-year thing, but eventually with all the Impacts and events. The TNA rollout is potentially going to be really weird for the Network. Usually WWE was good at doing a year-by-year thing for other promotions, but TNA is a lot different because it came up as television switched over to high-definition...which means that TNA would need the same conversions for the weekly PPVs, early monthly PPVs/Impacts (if not the XPlosion tapings)- but all the PPVs and Impact literally from Foley's TNA debut in 2008 on were taped in HD and picture quality-wise, could be thrown on the Network tomorrow without needing any changes...which leads to the other question of "wait until you have the early TNA in good condition to add to the Network, or throw up the TNA high-def tape immediately and then throw up the earlier TNA library gradually?" The same is true for the music, with a lot of it being able to be sent over (heck, R-Truth uses the same theme song he used as Ron "The Truth" Killings because he wrote/produced it, so WWE already has those rights.) That's the thing, most of the past is better than what they have now. It would probably be more exciting to watch other TNA eras than what they do in present time on Pop. But Corgan (or anyone buying TNA) would have no use for the library unless they could turn it into some kind of profit (ex. selling DVD's, etc). Sitting on the library and having it collect dust vs. selling to the WWE to (presumably) help wipe out the inherited debt and start from scratch seems like a no brainer. The WWE could use the content now that they have signed former TNA guys (AJ, Joe, Roode, Aries, etc). The brand is tarnished and will never be recouped. This was Corgan basically starting from scratch but having at least some type of infrastructure already in place. Though I agree that Corgan and his Russo-ific view of booking probably isn't a good thing, but I guess anything is better than Dixie. In addition to the content for TNA, the other question- does anyone know if OVW gets a cut from WWE DVDs when they put an OVW match from the library WWE bought from them or not? If OVW gets any cut from those DVDs, that could give a potential extra lucrative revenue stream from WWE buying the library. |
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Post by Rave on Oct 5, 2016 23:10:07 GMT -5
If Billy takes over the company from Dixie, are there any known "Dixie Carter guys" backstage who won't have any support left and either likely be fired or quit when they see the writing on the wall? One of the news articles mentioned that John Gaburick was very much in favour of selling to WWE because Billy would most likely get rid of him if he got full power. Also, seems like things are pointing to Bob Ryder getting the boot as well. I am really not sure what the hell Big does. Forgetting to renew your current Tag Team Champion aka Bobby Roode's contract. And signing Bram to a billion contracts. IIRC, it was Bruce Prichard who screwed up regarding Roode's contract. Big did have a hand in lowballing AJ out of the company, freezing out TJ Perkins, and the debacle that was Hernandez's last run, among other things. |
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Post by Chainsaw on Oct 5, 2016 23:24:18 GMT -5
You know what's amazing?
You know WWE will do a better job in promoting TNA In death than TNA ever did when it was alive.
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Post by Gecko on Oct 6, 2016 1:46:27 GMT -5
No matter whether it somehow survives as is, dies completely, or ends up being reborn as Billy Corgan's Amazing Wrestling Show, it's been a fascinating journey.
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Post by jimmyjames on Oct 6, 2016 2:18:51 GMT -5
You know what's amazing? You know WWE will do a better job in promoting TNA In death than TNA ever did when it was alive. In all fairness my grandmother could do a better job of promoting TNA than TNA and she's been dead for more than 20 years. |
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 6, 2016 2:54:21 GMT -5
If the tape library goes, basically the company's whole history, and Corgan re-brands it then for all intents and purposes TNA is dead.
Some of the framework and roster might still be used, but it's a different company. WWE may even lock down the TNA name anyway, since they'd be using it to promote on their Network.
So, IF this suggestion goes ahead, that's the end of TNA. Right?
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Post by circus on Oct 6, 2016 3:26:13 GMT -5
This feels like the best result for everyone if true. Hopefully TNA will be rebranded with a less stupid name.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Oct 6, 2016 3:27:27 GMT -5
The thing I am worried about with Corgan's new company is booking, who is booking TNA shows right now? because clearly the same theory about PPVs not matter is still in effect and that's something that needs to change ASAP because all you doing with how they been doing things is killing a big way of making money over the years and I say that between buyrates and Merchandise sals was there income but TNA butchered the PPV buyrates because they felt Impact was more important because they felt big events would spike ratings but it never worked. Instead you shorted yourself out of potentially putting the company in the green for once.
Corgan has a good foundation to build off with and better than anybody could ask for when starting fresh. Now he must make it wore he getting the most out of it to keep it going long term. That is making sure you are gaining money from all available sources you can. Ticket sales, Merchandise, PPV Buyrates, and ext.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Oct 6, 2016 3:51:46 GMT -5
The thing I am worried about with Corgan's new company is booking, who is booking TNA shows right now? because clearly the same theory about PPVs not matter is still in effect and that's something that needs to change ASAP because all you doing with how they been doing things is killing a big way of making money over the years and I say that between buyrates and Merchandise sals was there income but TNA butchered the PPV buyrates because they felt Impact was more important because they felt big events would spike ratings but it never worked. Instead you shorted yourself out of potentially putting the company in the green for once. Corgan has a good foundation to build off with and better than anybody could ask for when starting fresh. Now he must make it wore he getting the most out of it to keep it going long term. That is making sure you are gaining money from all available sources you can. Ticket sales, Merchandise, PPV Buyrates, and ext. Talk about hitting the nail on the head. For all this talk about change behind the scenes and Dixie's power crumbling, it's the still the same damn TNA it has always been. You'd never be able to tell the difference if you just merely watched the shows. Same damn meaningless pay-per-views with the real important events on the next TV show. Same damn top angle that they've always done. Everything is painfully the same, which means the real problems still haven't been addressed. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 4:51:48 GMT -5
The thing I am worried about with Corgan's new company is booking, who is booking TNA shows right now? because clearly the same theory about PPVs not matter is still in effect and that's something that needs to change ASAP because all you doing with how they been doing things is killing a big way of making money over the years and I say that between buyrates and Merchandise sals was there income but TNA butchered the PPV buyrates because they felt Impact was more important because they felt big events would spike ratings but it never worked. Instead you shorted yourself out of potentially putting the company in the green for once. Corgan has a good foundation to build off with and better than anybody could ask for when starting fresh. Now he must make it wore he getting the most out of it to keep it going long term. That is making sure you are gaining money from all available sources you can. Ticket sales, Merchandise, PPV Buyrates, and ext. Talk about hitting the nail on the head. For all this talk about change behind the scenes and Dixie's power crumbling, it's the still the same damn TNA it has always been. You'd never be able to tell the difference if you just merely watched the shows. Same damn meaningless pay-per-views with the real important events on the next TV show. Same damn top angle that they've always done. Everything is painfully the same, which means the real problems still haven't been addressed. The really weird thing on the PPV subject is they seemed like they were starting to move past that with having a set up and fairly built Drew / Lashley title match then having it have the logical ending where Lashley won the title, along with on the same show having a couple of other title changes. Then both those new champions basically lost their belts immediately, then they seemed to iron it out with Bound for Glory with having the tag title change and after having had EC3 / Lashley build for awhile they had a decisive conclusion to it that handily wrapped up the story... and thennnn this batch of tapings happened. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 6, 2016 5:07:56 GMT -5
And the same debts, stigma, and general ill-will. People likely won't see it as a new company, but TNA V2.5. ...or Malibu Stacy with a new hat. Even that's not totally fair, since this move is pretty clearly "Buy TNA outright, rebrand it and make its new history (trying to take the TNA stigma away from it)- then as your first order of business, sell the tape library to WWE and use that money to pay off as much outstanding debt as possible to start basically fresh" (which is...well, SMART.) Since even the most doom and gloom people were saying TNA was about $2 million in debt and WWE's apparent first offer was $1.35 million for the library, it's not unlikely Corgan could have counter-priced WWE with "give us $2 million (or the exact number) to wipe out all our debts so I can start fresh"- and from all we've seen of Vince McMahon in the past, he would gladly agree to that price increase for the competition. Yeah, this is smart if true. Billy may be a money mark, but at least it's better than Dixie who's a "refuses to spend my" money mark. Plus I think from that belt that Billy actually wants to go through with the "IMPACT Wrestling" rebrand Hogan tried years ago. A few of those is just say 40 grand of his money, which is one or two good Pumpkins shows, which I imagine he's gonna get a lot of interest in if he can pull in James and Darcy or MAdM for a reunion show or three, and if he can pull anything out of his wallet to foot the rest of their stuff like the India tour, and have a big ad campaign of "Under New Management", then this could be the comeback of the century. |
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Post by Welfare Willis on Oct 6, 2016 5:21:26 GMT -5
Even that's not totally fair, since this move is pretty clearly "Buy TNA outright, rebrand it and make its new history (trying to take the TNA stigma away from it)- then as your first order of business, sell the tape library to WWE and use that money to pay off as much outstanding debt as possible to start basically fresh" (which is...well, SMART.) Since even the most doom and gloom people were saying TNA was about $2 million in debt and WWE's apparent first offer was $1.35 million for the library, it's not unlikely Corgan could have counter-priced WWE with "give us $2 million (or the exact number) to wipe out all our debts so I can start fresh"- and from all we've seen of Vince McMahon in the past, he would gladly agree to that price increase for the competition. Yeah, this is smart if true. Billy may be a money mark, but at least it's better than Dixie who's a "refuses to spend my" money mark. Plus I think from that belt that Billy actually wants to go through with the "IMPACT Wrestling" rebrand Hogan tried years ago. A few of those is just say 40 grand of his money, which is one or two good Pumpkins shows, which I imagine he's gonna get a lot of interest in if he can pull in James and Darcy or MAdM for a reunion show or three, and if he can pull anything out of his wallet to foot the rest of their stuff like the India tour, and have a big ad campaign of "Under New Management", then this could be the comeback of the century. Honestly, I feel like Billy is more of a businessperson than Dixie. Billy has been in the music industry for a long time and unlike Dixie doesn't have a rich daddy who gave her a job afterwards. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 6, 2016 5:28:10 GMT -5
Yeah, this is smart if true. Billy may be a money mark, but at least it's better than Dixie who's a "refuses to spend my" money mark. Plus I think from that belt that Billy actually wants to go through with the "IMPACT Wrestling" rebrand Hogan tried years ago. A few of those is just say 40 grand of his money, which is one or two good Pumpkins shows, which I imagine he's gonna get a lot of interest in if he can pull in James and Darcy or MAdM for a reunion show or three, and if he can pull anything out of his wallet to foot the rest of their stuff like the India tour, and have a big ad campaign of "Under New Management", then this could be the comeback of the century. Honestly, I feel like Billy is more of a businessperson than Dixie. Billy has been in the music industry for a long time and unlike Dixie doesn't have a rich daddy who gave her a job afterwards. Dixie grew up not knowing the value of money, Billy grew up in a low class shithole in Chicago and then nearly worked himself to death on every Pumpkins album until Adore. |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Oct 6, 2016 8:06:45 GMT -5
American Horror Story: Impact Wrestling will be pretty interesting next year I'm convinced Lady Gaga as The Countess will put on better matches than Maria as Knockouts Champion. |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Oct 6, 2016 8:14:04 GMT -5
Hmm, I'm sick of the WWE Network, maybe I should cancel. "WWE NETWORK: NOW FEATURING HOSTAGE TAKING BIRD AND ACES AND EIGHTS" SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!! I gotta get my Cute Kip fix! |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Oct 6, 2016 11:36:27 GMT -5
Hmm, I'm sick of the WWE Network, maybe I should cancel. "WWE NETWORK: NOW FEATURING HOSTAGE TAKING BIRD AND ACES AND EIGHTS" SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!! I gotta get my Cute Kip fix! That gimmick and the beatdown Awesome Kong gave him, killed his career pretty much. Then he had to get back in the wwe's good graces, if not we would be hearing about him. |
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Oct 6, 2016 12:23:01 GMT -5
You know what's amazing? You know WWE will do a better job in promoting TNA In death than TNA ever did when it was alive. I hope they buy a Billboard right outside Dixie's house with the TNA on the NETWORK announcement. Vince can wate that money for his amusement that way, but probably wouldn't, Dixie couldn't but did. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 6, 2016 12:50:25 GMT -5
Billy: "I am hereby announcing the creation of a new company called Impact Championship Wrestling"
Vince: "I'll buy that too!"
Billy: "SOLD!"
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Post by alred1982 on Oct 6, 2016 13:46:00 GMT -5
If Vince buys this he also get the future company at a discounted price/or first refusal like he did wcw. Or was that let them know when go on sale he would have same deal still some new stuff for network anyway.
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