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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 19:51:33 GMT -5
Plus he may you know rather leave his kids/future grandkids 60K more in his will. If the option was 60K more in my inheritance or my dad not being in incredible pain and agony for the last 20 or 30 years of his life I'd rather my dad paid for the operation. I find this very odd, Foley being careful with his money is very well known and I just don't buy he can't afford the surgery. Some parents are the most selfless people. Hell when I wrote that post I was thinking through my dad's point of view because that's exactly he would do in that situation no matter how much I begged and plead. Then he would be selfish about being selfless.
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Post by Hickster on Dec 28, 2016 21:19:44 GMT -5
Open enrollment ends January 31.
Yeah, Mick will have a 2000 dollar monthly payment for coverage, and a 3000 dollar deductible(maybe 5000) but the man needs coverage, and he is making the money. If he doesn't have it, he's getting penalized $2085 when he files his taxes.
Sadly, this is not an uncommon scenario.
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Post by lookout on Dec 28, 2016 21:25:22 GMT -5
Simply nonsense. I'm sorry but this is an absolute joke. I wonder what the people I know as well as the untold numbers of other people who truly can't afford expensive and necessary procedures think about a freaking millionaire many times over claiming he can't get a 60,000 dollar operation because he doesn't have insurance? Not too damn favorably I think it's safe to say.
To me it's outrageous and im legit angry he would go public with that load of horsesh8t while there are so many people out there that truly are in a bad spot and likely will never be able to get the treatment they need....unlike Foley who could do it tomorrow and hardly notice or hurt his long term financial future considering how it's well known he's so cheap.
Just disgusting he writes that in what looks like an attempt to garner sympathy, raise money, or get the wwe to pay for it...because he has to know fans will contact wwe or atempt to raise the money because many probably think because he dresses like he's poor that means he is. Ugh.
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Post by PKO on Dec 28, 2016 21:30:53 GMT -5
God bless the NHS
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Post by abjordans on Dec 28, 2016 22:12:29 GMT -5
Open enrollment ends January 31. Yeah, Mick will have a 2000 dollar monthly payment for coverage, and a 3000 dollar deductible(maybe 5000) but the man needs coverage, and he is making the money. If he doesn't have it, he's getting penalized $2085 when he files his taxes. Sadly, this is not an uncommon scenario. I haven't had insurance all year(can't afford it), is that really the penalty?
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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 28, 2016 22:22:28 GMT -5
I believe there are perfectly acceptable clinics abroad that will happily take payment out of pocket to perform such an operation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 22:25:14 GMT -5
Simply nonsense. I'm sorry but this is an absolute joke. I wonder what the people I know as well as the untold numbers of other people who truly can't afford expensive and necessary procedures think about a freaking millionaire many times over claiming he can't get a 60,000 dollar operation because he doesn't have insurance? Not too damn favorably I think it's safe to say. To me it's outrageous and im legit angry he would go public with that load of horsesh8t while there are so many people out there that truly are in a bad spot and likely will never be able to get the treatment they need....unlike Foley who could do it tomorrow and hardly notice or hurt his long term financial future considering how it's well known he's so cheap. Just disgusting he writes that in what looks like an attempt to garner sympathy, raise money, or get the wwe to pay for it...because he has to know fans will contact wwe or atempt to raise the money because many probably think because he dresses like he's poor that means he is. Ugh.
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Post by JTH on Dec 28, 2016 22:35:01 GMT -5
Come on Mick, Canada's not a far walk across the border.
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Post by Johawn on Dec 28, 2016 22:39:08 GMT -5
Simply nonsense. I'm sorry but this is an absolute joke. I wonder what the people I know as well as the untold numbers of other people who truly can't afford expensive and necessary procedures think about a freaking millionaire many times over claiming he can't get a 60,000 dollar operation because he doesn't have insurance? Not too damn favorably I think it's safe to say. To me it's outrageous and im legit angry he would go public with that load of horsesh8t while there are so many people out there that truly are in a bad spot and likely will never be able to get the treatment they need....unlike Foley who could do it tomorrow and hardly notice or hurt his long term financial future considering how it's well known he's so cheap. Just disgusting he writes that in what looks like an attempt to garner sympathy, raise money, or get the wwe to pay for it...because he has to know fans will contact wwe or atempt to raise the money because many probably think because he dresses like he's poor that means he is. Ugh. Public figure shares health update with fans. Jesus, he's actively rejected funding and told people to give to more worthy causes. As for sympathy? Eh, maybe. f*** Mick Foley for being human and maybe hunting for a couple well wishes. I'm sure you've never posted "man, that sucked" on Facebook or come home and said "that was a shitty day" in the hopes of finding a sympathetic ear. I don't know about you, but if I have to spend £60 on something I'm salty. If I had to spend a penny just for the privilege of not being in quite as much but still in quite a lot of pain I'd be pissed off. There are a lot of ways to take what he's posted. He might have an agenda. He might want attention. He might be disgruntled with American health care. He might be making a point on his style of wrestling. He might even be promoting latex torture porn in some secret code only latex torture porn fans know about. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt because he seems like a good guy and he always looks out for people. I doubt too many are looking out for him in the same way. I don't get a lot of people who think that because someone has money or notoriety they can't complain or make a point or have an opinion like the rest of us. Grow up. I have minus £112 in my bank today, the Rock has like infinity money in his. He stubs his toe and it hurts just the same as it hurts me, and I'll say "that must've sucked, big lad." I won't say "at least you've got all that money and all them Twitter followers" cos what f***ing difference does that make?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 0:26:03 GMT -5
The internet is great and I enjoy talking about wrestling here but man alive do we get awfully presumptuous sometimes about what strangers should be doing with their lives based on not nearly enough information.
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Post by xCompackx on Dec 29, 2016 1:13:37 GMT -5
Mick Foley is one of those guys where when I hear "I need a hip replacement", my first thought is along the lines of "You don't f***ing say". The guy's had a great career, but damn has he done some unnecessary things along the way. I'm not going to pretend to be his financial accountant or anything, but I hope he gets something worked out because I couldn't imagine the pain he must be in daily.
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Post by imthewalrus79 on Dec 29, 2016 2:53:29 GMT -5
Given Mick's history of online posts, I think the only thing he was trying to do was clear up the rumors going around about his health and WWE status and possibly reach out to anyone in the medical community who may be trying something different with hip issues. We don't know the Foley family's full financial situation. He may be worth a reported $20 million. But that doesn't mean he's got $20 million in the bank. He may have some of that money in investments, donated a decent amount of it, etc. And, no matter how much money he has, I don't see anything wrong with him looking into not spending at least $60,000 and seeing if he can find a cheaper way.
As for revealing the details of his deal with WWE, again, I don't think he was trying to get people to ask or pressure the company into paying for the surgery. I think it was just a part of his explanation as to why it's not covered by the company. I will say that, seeing as Vince seems to really care about Mick, that he hasn't said they'd pay for it; but he and the WWE are under no contractual obligation to.
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Post by oj32 on Dec 29, 2016 3:32:01 GMT -5
Simply nonsense. I'm sorry but this is an absolute joke. I wonder what the people I know as well as the untold numbers of other people who truly can't afford expensive and necessary procedures think about a freaking millionaire many times over claiming he can't get a 60,000 dollar operation because he doesn't have insurance? Not too damn favorably I think it's safe to say. To me it's outrageous and im legit angry he would go public with that load of horsesh8t while there are so many people out there that truly are in a bad spot and likely will never be able to get the treatment they need....unlike Foley who could do it tomorrow and hardly notice or hurt his long term financial future considering how it's well known he's so cheap. Just disgusting he writes that in what looks like an attempt to garner sympathy, raise money, or get the wwe to pay for it...because he has to know fans will contact wwe or atempt to raise the money because many probably think because he dresses like he's poor that means he is. Ugh. Public figure shares health update with fans. Jesus, he's actively rejected funding and told people to give to more worthy causes. As for sympathy? Eh, maybe. f*** Mick Foley for being human and maybe hunting for a couple well wishes. I'm sure you've never posted "man, that sucked" on Facebook or come home and said "that was a shitty day" in the hopes of finding a sympathetic ear. I don't know about you, but if I have to spend £60 on something I'm salty. If I had to spend a penny just for the privilege of not being in quite as much but still in quite a lot of pain I'd be pissed off. There are a lot of ways to take what he's posted. He might have an agenda. He might want attention. He might be disgruntled with American health care. He might be making a point on his style of wrestling. He might even be promoting latex torture porn in some secret code only latex torture porn fans know about. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt because he seems like a good guy and he always looks out for people. I doubt too many are looking out for him in the same way. I don't get a lot of people who think that because someone has money or notoriety they can't complain or make a point or have an opinion like the rest of us. Grow up. I have minus £112 in my bank today, the Rock has like infinity money in his. He stubs his toe and it hurts just the same as it hurts me, and I'll say "that must've sucked, big lad." I won't say "at least you've got all that money and all them Twitter followers" cos what f***ing difference does that make? I don't disagree with much of what you wrote, however a couple things need to be highlighted: 1. Mick Foley told anyone who listened that he was taking time off to get a hip replacement. He requested and was granted time off from WWE to get this surgery. All this was widely reported for nearly a month. 2. Mick lost his insurance due to his own irresponsibility - he did not pay his insurance bill and ignored all of the communications alerting him of this and requesting payment. 3. Mick didn't share which month his insurance was cancelled which is a sure sign that it didn't just happen. Ever been late with a payment to a major corporation that provides you a service and NOT hear from that company when they haven't been paid? All major service providers from your mobile service provider to your cable provider to your health insurance provider employ many, many people to pester you and threaten you until you pay them. To achieve this they will call you, send you letters and email you until they receive the money you owe them. But it seems that Mick chose to ignore those communications. Companies, including health insurance providers, are very willing to work with you unless you ignore their outreach until it's too late. Mick Foley's own actions (or lack thereof) put him in this situation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 3:33:26 GMT -5
I honestly don't see Foley being worth 20 million unless his house is worth that much. Dude made all his big money from 97-2000 and I doubt he made close to 20 million during those years. Unless he signed the greatest merch deal ever I just don't see it.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Dec 29, 2016 4:07:58 GMT -5
Looks like he made the same financial mistakes that Big Show and Shawn Michaels made!
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 29, 2016 4:22:57 GMT -5
Simply nonsense. I'm sorry but this is an absolute joke. I wonder what the people I know as well as the untold numbers of other people who truly can't afford expensive and necessary procedures think about a freaking millionaire many times over claiming he can't get a 60,000 dollar operation because he doesn't have insurance? Not too damn favorably I think it's safe to say. To me it's outrageous and im legit angry he would go public with that load of horsesh8t while there are so many people out there that truly are in a bad spot and likely will never be able to get the treatment they need....unlike Foley who could do it tomorrow and hardly notice or hurt his long term financial future considering how it's well known he's so cheap. Just disgusting he writes that in what looks like an attempt to garner sympathy, raise money, or get the wwe to pay for it...because he has to know fans will contact wwe or atempt to raise the money because many probably think because he dresses like he's poor that means he is. Ugh. Now now, let's not let facts laid out like 3-4 times already in this thread get in the way of the narrative. Seriously, though. Yes, Mick can probably drop 60,000 dollars for this, but he also has good cause to be loathe to do that if he can find another way, particularly because Mick participates in a great deal of charity. This is more money than many yearly wages, and he's rich, but he's not "I'ma buy a luxury vehicle on my lunch break" rich.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Dec 29, 2016 7:50:45 GMT -5
I honestly don't see Foley being worth 20 million unless his house is worth that much. Dude made all his big money from 97-2000 and I doubt he made close to 20 million during those years. Unless he signed the greatest merch deal ever I just don't see it. You can make a pretty penny off of books. He was always on the NYT best sellers list.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Dec 29, 2016 8:20:55 GMT -5
When I met the man at a Brooklyn street festival back in 1993, at that time he was working a program with Vader in WCW that was rough and tumble to say the least. I mentioned to him that his wild style would cost him his health down the road. His reply was "You ain't seen nothing yet!" Notoriety is more important than one's health? Hell no! Mick Foley has made his own bed as far as I'm concerned. It's hard to feel sorry for him.
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Post by msc on Dec 29, 2016 8:30:42 GMT -5
To be honest, when I read his Facebook post in the first post in the thread, I was thinking to myself: "I hope there's not a more ominous reason for turning down the surgery now..."
Not helped by RAW, of course - when one of the finest promo men in wrestling history stumbles over simple sentences, one can't help but be alarmed.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 29, 2016 10:10:35 GMT -5
Mick is notoriously cheap. I'm sure he's got some money stashed away somewhere. Motherf***er traveled and stayed with fans so that he could save money. This happened while he was the wwe champion. Dude has a lot of money, he gets no sympy from me when there are guys who really need help like Rico Constantino.
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