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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on May 1, 2017 8:22:53 GMT -5
Like seriously dude that 1.01 tip move is messed up, holy shit. You don't like tipping culture so your solution is to be actively mean to the employee stuck in that situation? They do not stop being human beings just because they are serving you. I think you missed the part where I said, lousy service gets that. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 1, 2017 8:37:52 GMT -5
Tipping culture is stupid but the fact of the matter is that when you are all "rah rah fight the power I refuse to tip", you are not doing anything useful to change it. Literally all you are doing is messing with your server/driver's ability to pay their rent to make your little stand. The boss doesn't care if the employee is happy. They aren't going to pay higher wages if the tips dry up. They are going to fire the staff or let them quit and find more desperate people to take their place. It's a shitty cycle, but some of the anti-tippers out there who feel the best way to combat it is to punish the innocent employees who are taken advantage of, and respond to their problem with apathy and aggression, are in the end just being assholes. I spent ten days in the U.S. last month and despite being one of the cheapest sons of bitches you could ever meet, I tipped every server, driver, and room attendant 30-50% regardless of quality of service based on this very notion. I genuinely dislike tipping culture, but refusing to tip changes nothing. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 1, 2017 8:57:20 GMT -5
Tipping culture is stupid but the fact of the matter is that when you are all "rah rah fight the power I refuse to tip", you are not doing anything useful to change it. Literally all you are doing is messing with your server/driver's ability to pay their rent to make your little stand. The boss doesn't care if the employee is happy. They aren't going to pay higher wages if the tips dry up. They are going to fire the staff or let them quit and find more desperate people to take their place. It's a shitty cycle, but some of the anti-tippers out there who feel the best way to combat it is to punish the innocent employees who are taken advantage of, and respond to their problem with apathy and aggression, are in the end just being assholes. I spent ten days in the U.S. last month and despite being one of the cheapest sons of bitches you could ever meet, I tipped every server, driver, and room attendant 30-50% regardless of quality of service based on this very notion. I genuinely dislike tipping culture, but refusing to tip changes nothing. 30-50%? who are you, the Smog Strangler? |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 1, 2017 9:17:21 GMT -5
I spent ten days in the U.S. last month and despite being one of the cheapest sons of bitches you could ever meet, I tipped every server, driver, and room attendant 30-50% regardless of quality of service based on this very notion. I genuinely dislike tipping culture, but refusing to tip changes nothing. 30-50%? who are you, the Smog Strangler?  What reference am I missing here? |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 1, 2017 9:22:27 GMT -5
30-50%? who are you, the Smog Strangler? What reference am I missing here? it's a Seinfeld reference. George i in a cop car with Clint Howard and they get into an argument about tipping because George is a total skinflint and the other guy is adamant about tipping more than customary. then they both end up escapig the cop car and it turns out Clint Howard is the serial killer known as the Smog Strangler. |
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Post by crabbymelt on May 1, 2017 9:32:24 GMT -5
Drinking soda.
I don't like wine and I'm not really into beer. I'll drink liquor occasionally. But I love soda, and people make it a mission to "shame" me for my "childish" drink choices. Who freaking cares? I'm paying for a drink I actually like, and can afford!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 9:36:05 GMT -5
Like seriously dude that 1.01 tip move is messed up, holy shit. You don't like tipping culture so your solution is to be actively mean to the employee stuck in that situation? They do not stop being human beings just because they are serving you. I think you missed the part where I said, lousy service gets that. Nah. Lousy service gets the bare minimum of a tip (you've got to fork that over regardless) AND a talk with the manager about said shitty service. There are ways to do this without stiffing people on a tip and earning the name "Mr. Pink." I mean, dude. Think about it. His refusal to tip and his painstaking justifications as to why he shouldn't was deliberately used in the movie to mark him as a bit of a weasel.  Don't be that person, man. |
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on May 1, 2017 9:37:43 GMT -5
Non monogamous relationships. I wish they were understood better. Too many people seem to think it comes down to either monogamy, not interested in dating, or just want to bang everyone and everything with no emotional involvement. Or that people who prefer non monogamy want EVERYONE to abandon monogamy. Or that all non monogamous situations are built on a foundation of cheating and/or deceit. (Seriously, SCREW people who insist on always referring to unconventional relationships as "cheating on each other" after being explicitly told everyone involved is knowingly consenting!) Personally, if I wasn't with my current boyfriend, my ideal situation would be friends with benefits. "Friends" is the key word here, NOT the same as booty calls. Which, if everyone involved is a a knowledgeable, willing participant, should be equally accepted. My best friend prefers a structure where he is involved with two women simultaneously, and they each are involved with him and, if they choose, one more person. Then of course there's all sorts of different types of open relationships, with all sorts of different rules. But really, instead of number of people involved, it should come down to honesty and consideration for the needs of each individual. I know, it seems like a silly thing to complain about, but I feel like the social pressure to only pursue monogamy or pursue nothing contributed to a lot of the emotional issues I deal with today. Repeatedly, I would get close to someone, only to be told some variation of "be my girlfriend, or lose me forever". And me being me, I would, because I can't stand to lose people, even toxic people. So I would date them, be unfulfilled, then eventually depressed. The best part was, almost every one of those guys who forced a monogamous relationship with me just ended up cheating on me relentlessly. And yeah, I said guys, because funny thing? In spite of the stereotypes, girls I liked never tried to guilt me into a monogamous relationship. They either were down to try it, or just expressed lack of interest and life moved on. To anyone who actually read this, thank you, and sorry for the rant. I just keep seeing all these memes all over social media "the older I get, the more I realize I don't want to go out and party, I just want to settle down with my partner" "how come no one just wants cuddle up and brace for the long haul, why does everyone want to just be playing?" etc. It makes me feel like society believes people like me should be vilified. And then I get depressed One of my best friends had a relationship with two women at the same time. One of them decided to see someone outside of their circle without giving the other two a heads up and ended up getting herpes. Now they all have it. I'm not saying that's going to happen to everyone in a situation like this but the more people you add, the more risks you end up taking. It's hard to trust someone. That's one reason a lot of people insist on a monogamous relationship. I've been in plenty of relationships. Some were a friends with benefits situation. One even involved two women. They were fun at the time but I do prefer a relationship that's more serious. Especially now that I'm getting older. I don't have the energy or desire to juggle multiple people. It's hard enough to trust one person to be responsible with their lives and their choices. It's no secret that most relationships don't work out. It's just a matter of being smarter about your personal safety. You might be all about safe sex. Your partners might be with you too, but who knows what they're really up to when you're not around? You have zero control over that. I consider myself lucky to have never caught anything. I'm not judging anyone for their personal choices. I've had my fun so I really can't. I will say I understand why people aren't supportive of those situations. Many people are only as faithful as their options. I've been screwed over plenty of times. You can never know someone well enough and people do change. When you see someone in a potentially dangerous situation, you tend to think they should be more careful and smarter about what they're doing. I think the stigma that comes with non monogamous relationships has a lot to do with that. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 1, 2017 9:37:58 GMT -5
What reference am I missing here? it's a Seinfeld reference. George i in a cop car with Clint Howard and they get into an argument about tipping because George is a total skinflint and the other guy is adamant about tipping more than customary. then they both end up escapig the cop car and it turns out Clint Howard is the serial killer known as the Smog Strangler. Ah, well in my daily life I'm absolutely a George and will only tip for outstanding service. When I'm abroad in countries where tipping is the norm I'm the other guy... minus the serial murder. {Spoiler}  |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 1, 2017 9:50:19 GMT -5
Non monogamous relationships. I wish they were understood better. Too many people seem to think it comes down to either monogamy, not interested in dating, or just want to bang everyone and everything with no emotional involvement. Or that people who prefer non monogamy want EVERYONE to abandon monogamy. Or that all non monogamous situations are built on a foundation of cheating and/or deceit. (Seriously, SCREW people who insist on always referring to unconventional relationships as "cheating on each other" after being explicitly told everyone involved is knowingly consenting!) Personally, if I wasn't with my current boyfriend, my ideal situation would be friends with benefits. "Friends" is the key word here, NOT the same as booty calls. Which, if everyone involved is a a knowledgeable, willing participant, should be equally accepted. My best friend prefers a structure where he is involved with two women simultaneously, and they each are involved with him and, if they choose, one more person. Then of course there's all sorts of different types of open relationships, with all sorts of different rules. But really, instead of number of people involved, it should come down to honesty and consideration for the needs of each individual. I know, it seems like a silly thing to complain about, but I feel like the social pressure to only pursue monogamy or pursue nothing contributed to a lot of the emotional issues I deal with today. Repeatedly, I would get close to someone, only to be told some variation of "be my girlfriend, or lose me forever". And me being me, I would, because I can't stand to lose people, even toxic people. So I would date them, be unfulfilled, then eventually depressed. The best part was, almost every one of those guys who forced a monogamous relationship with me just ended up cheating on me relentlessly. And yeah, I said guys, because funny thing? In spite of the stereotypes, girls I liked never tried to guilt me into a monogamous relationship. They either were down to try it, or just expressed lack of interest and life moved on. To anyone who actually read this, thank you, and sorry for the rant. I just keep seeing all these memes all over social media "the older I get, the more I realize I don't want to go out and party, I just want to settle down with my partner" "how come no one just wants cuddle up and brace for the long haul, why does everyone want to just be playing?" etc. It makes me feel like society believes people like me should be vilified. And then I get depressed One of my best friends had a relationship with two women at the same time. One of them decided to see someone outside of their circle without giving the other two a heads up and ended up getting herpes. Now they all have it. I'm not saying that's going to happen to everyone in a situation like this but the more people you add, the more risks you end up taking. It's hard to trust someone. That's one reason a lot of people insist on a monogamous relationship. I've been in plenty of relationships. Some were a friends with benefits situation. One even involved two women. They were fun at the time but I do prefer a relationship that's more serious. Especially now that I'm getting older. I don't have the energy or desire to juggle multiple people. It's hard enough to trust one person to be responsible with their lives and their choices. It's no secret that most relationships don't work out. It's just a matter of being smarter about your personal safety. You might be all about safe sex. Your partners might be with you too, but who knows what they're really up to when you're not around? You have zero control over that. I consider myself lucky to have never caught anything. I'm not judging anyone for their personal choices. I've had my fun so I really can't. I will say I understand why people aren't supportive of those situations. Many people are only as faithful as their options. I've been screwed over plenty of times. You can never know someone well enough and people do change. When you see someone in a potentially dangerous situation, you tend to think they should be more careful and smarter about what they're doing. I think the stigma that comes with non monogamous relationships has a lot to do with that. this is basically why I wouldn't do it, either. I mean.. it's too much f***ing work. I mean lord knows I've entertained the notion before but at 30 I feel like I'm way too old to dedicate that kind of time to multiple people. if you and everyone else involved can be mature and responsible about it my heart goes out to you but that kind of thing is just not for me. I also tend to develop a single track mind about someone so when I'm with them the idea of being with someone else isn't even something I entertain. it doesn't help that for every couple that makes this work there's about 10-15 where it's blatantly an abusive situation where one person is afraid of being alone and manipulated into going along with it by the other party, who usually doesn't give a shit about them. |
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Post by Malibu Stacy on May 1, 2017 10:05:31 GMT -5
Non monogamous relationships. I wish they were understood better. Too many people seem to think it comes down to either monogamy, not interested in dating, or just want to bang everyone and everything with no emotional involvement. Or that people who prefer non monogamy want EVERYONE to abandon monogamy. Or that all non monogamous situations are built on a foundation of cheating and/or deceit. (Seriously, SCREW people who insist on always referring to unconventional relationships as "cheating on each other" after being explicitly told everyone involved is knowingly consenting!) Personally, if I wasn't with my current boyfriend, my ideal situation would be friends with benefits. "Friends" is the key word here, NOT the same as booty calls. Which, if everyone involved is a a knowledgeable, willing participant, should be equally accepted. My best friend prefers a structure where he is involved with two women simultaneously, and they each are involved with him and, if they choose, one more person. Then of course there's all sorts of different types of open relationships, with all sorts of different rules. But really, instead of number of people involved, it should come down to honesty and consideration for the needs of each individual. I know, it seems like a silly thing to complain about, but I feel like the social pressure to only pursue monogamy or pursue nothing contributed to a lot of the emotional issues I deal with today. Repeatedly, I would get close to someone, only to be told some variation of "be my girlfriend, or lose me forever". And me being me, I would, because I can't stand to lose people, even toxic people. So I would date them, be unfulfilled, then eventually depressed. The best part was, almost every one of those guys who forced a monogamous relationship with me just ended up cheating on me relentlessly. And yeah, I said guys, because funny thing? In spite of the stereotypes, girls I liked never tried to guilt me into a monogamous relationship. They either were down to try it, or just expressed lack of interest and life moved on. To anyone who actually read this, thank you, and sorry for the rant. I just keep seeing all these memes all over social media "the older I get, the more I realize I don't want to go out and party, I just want to settle down with my partner" "how come no one just wants cuddle up and brace for the long haul, why does everyone want to just be playing?" etc. It makes me feel like society believes people like me should be vilified. And then I get depressed One of my best friends had a relationship with two women at the same time. One of them decided to see someone outside of their circle without giving the other two a heads up and ended up getting herpes. Now they all have it. I'm not saying that's going to happen to everyone in a situation like this but the more people you add, the more risks you end up taking. It's hard to trust someone. That's one reason a lot of people insist on a monogamous relationship. I've been in plenty of relationships. Some were a friends with benefits situation. One even involved two women. They were fun at the time but I do prefer a relationship that's more serious. Especially now that I'm getting older. I don't have the energy or desire to juggle multiple people. It's hard enough to trust one person to be responsible with their lives and their choices. It's no secret that most relationships don't work out. It's just a matter of being smarter about your personal safety. You might be all about safe sex. Your partners might be with you too, but who knows what they're really up to when you're not around? You have zero control over that. I consider myself lucky to have never caught anything. I'm not judging anyone for their personal choices. I've had my fun so I really can't. I will say I understand why people aren't supportive of those situations. Many people are only as faithful as their options. I've been screwed over plenty of times. You can never know someone well enough and people do change. When you see someone in a potentially dangerous situation, you tend to think they should be more careful and smarter about what they're doing. I think the stigma that comes with non monogamous relationships has a lot to do with that. All valid points. Still, my issue isn't with why do the majority prefer monogamy, it's with feeling that people like me who feel the pros are worth the risks are looked on as bad people for feeling that way. And it's especially frustrating because of like you, many people keep pointing out how the older they get, the more they turn to monogamy, which is perfectly understandable, but for me it's the exact opposite- the older I get, the more I realize it's not for me. Yeah, I comprehend that increasing the people involve is also increasing the risk. However, out of the nine adult monogamous relationships I've been in, only two of them didn't result in me getting cheated on multiple times, so it doesn't carry a lot of emotional weight for me. Hell, my aforementioned best friend was originally in my life as a boyfriend, and even he cheated on me like crazy back then. But the girl he dated after me introduced him to the partner square or whatever you call what he practices now. He's since calmed down and no longer cheats. But even then, just because I had bad experiences with monogamy DOESN'T mean I think anything bad about monogamy as a whole, or people who prefer it. Nor would I ever try to push someone to try something they weren't comfortable with. I'm just tired of being made to feel like a bad person for not being like them. |
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on May 1, 2017 11:14:32 GMT -5
One of my best friends had a relationship with two women at the same time. One of them decided to see someone outside of their circle without giving the other two a heads up and ended up getting herpes. Now they all have it. I'm not saying that's going to happen to everyone in a situation like this but the more people you add, the more risks you end up taking. It's hard to trust someone. That's one reason a lot of people insist on a monogamous relationship. I've been in plenty of relationships. Some were a friends with benefits situation. One even involved two women. They were fun at the time but I do prefer a relationship that's more serious. Especially now that I'm getting older. I don't have the energy or desire to juggle multiple people. It's hard enough to trust one person to be responsible with their lives and their choices. It's no secret that most relationships don't work out. It's just a matter of being smarter about your personal safety. You might be all about safe sex. Your partners might be with you too, but who knows what they're really up to when you're not around? You have zero control over that. I consider myself lucky to have never caught anything. I'm not judging anyone for their personal choices. I've had my fun so I really can't. I will say I understand why people aren't supportive of those situations. Many people are only as faithful as their options. I've been screwed over plenty of times. You can never know someone well enough and people do change. When you see someone in a potentially dangerous situation, you tend to think they should be more careful and smarter about what they're doing. I think the stigma that comes with non monogamous relationships has a lot to do with that. All valid points. Still, my issue isn't with why do the majority prefer monogamy, it's with feeling that people like me who feel the pros are worth the risks are looked on as bad people for feeling that way. And it's especially frustrating because of like you, many people keep pointing out how the older they get, the more they turn to monogamy, which is perfectly understandable, but for me it's the exact opposite- the older I get, the more I realize it's not for me. Yeah, I comprehend that increasing the people involve is also increasing the risk. However, out of the nine adult monogamous relationships I've been in, only two of them didn't result in me getting cheated on multiple times, so it doesn't carry a lot of emotional weight for me. Hell, my aforementioned best friend was originally in my life as a boyfriend, and even he cheated on me like crazy back then. But the girl he dated after me introduced him to the partner square or whatever you call what he practices now. He's since calmed down and no longer cheats. But even then, just because I had bad experiences with monogamy DOESN'T mean I think anything bad about monogamy as a whole, or people who prefer it. Nor would I ever try to push someone to try something they weren't comfortable with. I'm just tired of being made to feel like a bad person for not being like them. I don't think you're a bad person for feeling that way. I think you've experienced a lot of disappointment that's lead you to a different outlook on relationships. That's what put me in that frame of mind when I was more in favor of that lifestyle myself. I have to say that I had to learn to take some more responsibility for my choices in partners. I learned to be a bit more picky and to hold out for more quality people. I was a little too relaxed and accepting of people because I'm usually not that judgmental. I didn't go around hooking up with everyone that was down to, but I do feel like I didn't get to know some of them well enough before getting intimate with them. I was increasing my personal risk and more likely to be potentially making a bad decision in the long run. A non monogamous relationship can be a way of excusing any possible cheating but it doesn't change the fact that it leaves you open to the same risks involved in a monogamous one. It actually increases them. Especially if you're completely ok with them or yourself having sex with whoever you want whenever you want. My friend thought he was being careful and now he has a disease that he and his partners, who have since ended their relationship, will have for the rest of their lives. I've had two long term relationships since I changed my lifestyle and they were both the healthiest relationships I've ever had because I took my time to really get to know them and establish real connections with them rather than get into a simple dating situation that lead to a sexual relationship. It was a lot more fulfilling and trust was much better established. They took a lot of time and patience but they were well worth it. There's an old piece of advice someone told me that ended up being true. If someone disappoints you or hurts you, you just dust yourself off and find someone better. It's not easy to do, but you can and it's worth it. I can honestly say it's made me a better person. Not from a moral standpoint, but just feeling better about myself, other people and life in general. I'm not judging anyone for their choices. I'm just sharing what worked for me after my experience with that way of life. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on May 1, 2017 12:29:32 GMT -5
I want people to stop shaming others for compulsions or coping methods.
Don't like me biting my nails? Then stop shaming me for using my tangle, my spinner, or tapping my feet. I'm glad my department at work allows me stimming, but I've heard of schools taking spinners off people, which is bs.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on May 1, 2017 12:36:10 GMT -5
I've had some laser removal done. It definitely is better than waxing (I have very sensitive skin), but the cost can be annoying. It might be worth trying one of those home units that are sold now. I'm ludicrously hairy but I picked one up for under £200 and after six months of semi-regular use even my hairiest areas have reduced from a thick rug to a fine peach fuzz. I figure a few more months and I'll be pretty much hairless. Less than £200? Seriously PM me details. |
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Post by The Thread Barbi on May 1, 2017 13:19:19 GMT -5
Drinking soda. I don't like wine and I'm not really into beer. I'll drink liquor occasionally. But I love soda, and people make it a mission to "shame" me for my "childish" drink choices. Who freaking cares? I'm paying for a drink I actually like, and can afford! You're pretty much like CM Punk. I don't see how it's childish? Unless you start bouncing around on a sugar rush?? 😉 |
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on May 1, 2017 20:55:28 GMT -5
I think you missed the part where I said, lousy service gets that. Nah. Lousy service gets the bare minimum of a tip (you've got to fork that over regardless) AND a talk with the manager about said shitty service. There are ways to do this without stiffing people on a tip and earning the name "Mr. Pink." I mean, dude. Think about it. His refusal to tip and his painstaking justifications as to why he shouldn't was deliberately used in the movie to mark him as a bit of a weasel. Don't be that person, man. Weasel?  "How about this, next time I'll leave them a tip...do a better job and you'll make better money." |
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Post by Jam on May 2, 2017 0:07:58 GMT -5
If you live in the UK or anywhere that doesn't have tipping culture, then sure. Wages are higher across the board here anyway and it's still not ideal, but hey even so. If you live in the US, you're f***ing over people that do a shitty job that they get paid way too little for as it is by not tipping. Any job that pays so poorly is meant to get one's foot in the door, not to keep one financially afloat. You take the craptacular job to get experience, and then you use that experience to get a job that pays better and is hopefully at least a little less craptacular. Rinse and repeat. Yeah. Because that's sooo easy to do. |
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Post by Mackenzie Gorn on May 2, 2017 0:18:22 GMT -5
Like seriously dude that 1.01 tip move is messed up, holy shit. You don't like tipping culture so your solution is to be actively mean to the employee stuck in that situation? They do not stop being human beings just because they are serving you. I think you missed the part where I said, lousy service gets that. That's not what mediocre means. |
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Post by eDemento2099 on May 2, 2017 9:36:26 GMT -5
Any job that pays so poorly is meant to get one's foot in the door, not to keep one financially afloat. You take the craptacular job to get experience, and then you use that experience to get a job that pays better and is hopefully at least a little less craptacular. Rinse and repeat. Yeah. Because that's sooo easy to do. I never said it is easy. Do you know what's more difficult than that? Not being able to get a job in the first place because high labor costs prevent employers from hiring workers. Getting experience and money (however little it may be) is better than literally working for free in an effort to build experience and network. Thanks to stuff like McDonald's workers demanding $15/hour, those jobs are in the process of being permanently eliminated. |
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on May 2, 2017 11:12:09 GMT -5
It would be nice to be able to be freer with gender presentation without having to worry about transphobic arseholes. This. I f***ing want this. My youngest is transgendered and fell into a depression when that bullshit about bathrooms came out. We had just gotten him to feel normal and those assholes undid that through their bigotry. That, and it made use of public bathrooms a thing again. I now find myself quietly freaking out anytime he uses a public men's room. I mean, he came out early enough to us that we could start hormone treatment at a young enough age that he just looks like a boy younger than he actually is, but I still find myself worrying. I should not have to do that shit. |
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