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Post by ronin705 on Apr 18, 2017 12:44:34 GMT -5
I'm saying how is it NOW that people want to say to draw the line?? My eyebrow was raised off the adoption prank, but no, is when they tangibly see the kid in tears is the moment they decide "oh, that's too far". Don't pull a U turn now, after you left so much go. These people shouldn't be put into the position they have in the first place if their actions are indeed wrong. I'm gonna assume that most people who are upset about this hadn't seen or heard of this channel prior to this blowing up. I'm sure there are some people who condoned earlier videos by these people but are now condemning them, but I bet you that's like 0.5% at best This i do agree with. What makes a practical joke funny is pulling it on someone that should know better not defenseless kids. Again, agreed, but they apparently have a channel, and this kinda crap is routine. Which also means there can potentially be thousands who condone and enable this behaviour. I'm simply expressing that maybe we as a society should be more proactive in not allowing the gunpowder to reach the powder keg, instead of commenting on the explosion. You're missing my point. I'm not disagreeing about "wrong" or "right" , i'm saying you can't pull the trigger now after so much. Almost like Dave Chapelle, with clearly less humour. You're acting as if any of us knew about this. Who is your point being made to? Lecturing us or trying to talk down to people here who didn't know about this prior to a news article is accomplishing what? I apologize for in any way making you feel as if I'm talking down to you, not my intention. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 18, 2017 12:50:05 GMT -5
I'm gonna assume that most people who are upset about this hadn't seen or heard of this channel prior to this blowing up. I'm sure there are some people who condoned earlier videos by these people but are now condemning them, but I bet you that's like 0.5% at best This i do agree with. What makes a practical joke funny is pulling it on someone that should know better not defenseless kids. Again, agreed, but they apparently have a channel, and this kinda crap is routine. Which also means there can potentially be thousands who condone and enable this behaviour. I'm simply expressing that maybe we as a society should be more proactive in not allowing the gunpowder to reach the powder keg, instead of commenting on the explosion. You're acting as if any of us knew about this. Who is your point being made to? Lecturing us or trying to talk down to people here who didn't know about this prior to a news article is accomplishing what? I apologize for in any way making you feel as if I'm talking down to you, not my intention. I do agree that it would be better to nip this in the bud, but I literally didn't even know people were doing this for entertainment in normal corners of society. Like, I'll be the first to admit I intentionally live a pretty "head in the sand" life, but I never even thought this could be a thing Kinda like how there were those videos about 8 years ago that got really popular where they were taping a teenager have violent and over the top reactions to basic discipline and daily life and everyone thought it was hilarious and all I could think was "That guy clearly has mental issues that aren't being addressed" |
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Post by Hawk Hart on Apr 18, 2017 12:57:59 GMT -5
I still don't see the logic of blaming other people or society as a whole for this crap. Being a decent human being should be something to comes pre-programmed into you and considering how small a portion of the population was even aware that these two ridiculous assholes existed, I don't see how we could be more proactive. Sure, "there's potentially thousands of people who condone this" but there are also thousands of people who condone lowering the age of consent but support doesn't make an argument. Bad ideas are bad ideas regardless and people shouldn't be f***ing stupid enough to think ideas this bad are something they should continue with. The viewer stat is fallible too as we don't know how many people who view their videos are people who are specifically seeing them because someone shared it and the viewer didn't know what they were getting in to. Not to mention people viewing the videos then complaining about their abhorrent behavior.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 18, 2017 13:02:39 GMT -5
I'm saying how is it NOW that people want to say to draw the line?? My eyebrow was raised off the adoption prank, but no, is when they tangibly see the kid in tears is the moment they decide "oh, that's too far". Don't pull a U turn now, after you left so much go. These people shouldn't be put into the position they have in the first place if their actions are indeed wrong. You don't understand why people would be upset seeing a child cry and have that be a wakeup call to this? Dude... |
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Apr 18, 2017 13:07:17 GMT -5
I don't find this funny due to how my father often treated me when I was younger. He was very abusive verbally. It took years for him to stop and for me to forgive him.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 18, 2017 13:13:44 GMT -5
That reminds me of my dad's favorite made up song: "Kevin, Kevin he's got class, he's got a face like a bulldog's ass."
He found it hilarious.
Weird Al the man was not.
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 18, 2017 13:20:01 GMT -5
I remember as a kid cutting my knee open and my Dad joking that my leg would need to be amputated. I remember the pure terror I felt for a few seconds until I caught on.
And this video is like a million times more cruel.
And of course he has the World class retort of calling anyone that criticizes him "haters". Straight up unfit to raise children. f*** him.
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Post by ronin705 on Apr 18, 2017 13:22:40 GMT -5
I'm saying how is it NOW that people want to say to draw the line?? My eyebrow was raised off the adoption prank, but no, is when they tangibly see the kid in tears is the moment they decide "oh, that's too far". Don't pull a U turn now, after you left so much go. These people shouldn't be put into the position they have in the first place if their actions are indeed wrong. You don't understand why people would be upset seeing a child cry and have that be a wakeup call to this? Dude... Since i'm looking at my own text, i can clearly say you're putting words into my mouth, so please do not twist my quoted words to your narrative thanks. I'm comparing the level of disgusts in which when it's adoption, people go "haha", but why is it now that you have a visual of the child crying is it enough?? Who knows off camera how many tears this child has shed due to the cruel nature of some of the pranks. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 13:46:33 GMT -5
I'm saying how is it NOW that people want to say to draw the line?? My eyebrow was raised off the adoption prank, but no, is when they tangibly see the kid in tears is the moment they decide "oh, that's too far". Don't pull a U turn now, after you left so much go. These people shouldn't be put into the position they have in the first place if their actions are indeed wrong. You don't understand why people would be upset seeing a child cry and have that be a wakeup call to this? Dude... I get the idea that he gets why this if offensive, but I think his point is that people kind of push each other towards upping the ante with stuff like this. Like this is only a few steps worse than Jimmy Kimmel's Halloween "parents pretend they ate their kid's candy and film it" thing and how there might be people who will laugh at that but then condemn this. Whether those people exist or not I dunno but I think that's what he's getting at, which I dunno if that argument is really reaching anyone it needs to here. I enjoy the internet if it's worth it sometimes for a litany of reasons but one of them is how it provokes people towards really gross narcissistic behavior and I really dislike when parents put their kids on the internet for worldwide amusement whether it's cruel stuff like this or more harmless stuff like the "David after dentist" videos. I'm so glad I didn't grow up in a time where my humiliation could have become a worldwide phenomenon without my knowing or consent. |
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Post by Hawk Hart on Apr 18, 2017 13:48:03 GMT -5
You don't understand why people would be upset seeing a child cry and have that be a wakeup call to this? Dude... Since i'm looking at my own text, i can clearly say you're putting words into my mouth, so please do not twist my quoted words to your narrative thanks. I'm comparing the level of disgusts in which when it's adoption, people go "haha", but why is it now that you have a visual of the child crying is it enough?? Who knows off camera how many tears this child has shed due to the cruel nature of some of the pranks. What point are you trying to make? Who are you trying to hold responsible for this? As has been stated many times and even conceded by you, lots of people had no idea these people were being such public assholes until this video. Of course people are pissed off, these jerkasses made their child cry for "entertainment" and the visual of a child crying out of fear of their parents is going to cause an emotional response. Until you can prove that people who "enabled" them in the past are complaining now, you need to stop pushing that narrative because a lot of people, myself included, are just now finding out about these two clownshoes and are disgusted by their entire history with this sort of behavior, not just this one video. |
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Post by ronin705 on Apr 18, 2017 13:54:00 GMT -5
Since i'm looking at my own text, i can clearly say you're putting words into my mouth, so please do not twist my quoted words to your narrative thanks. I'm comparing the level of disgusts in which when it's adoption, people go "haha", but why is it now that you have a visual of the child crying is it enough?? Who knows off camera how many tears this child has shed due to the cruel nature of some of the pranks. What point are you trying to make? Who are you trying to hold responsible for this? As has been stated many times and even conceded by you, lots of people had no idea these people were being such public assholes until this video. Of course people are pissed off, these jerkasses made their child cry for "entertainment" and the visual of a child crying out of fear of their parents is going to cause an emotional response. Until you can prove that people who "enabled" them in the past are complaining now, you need to stop pushing that narrative because a lot of people, myself included, are just now finding out about these two clownshoes and are disgusted by their entire history with this sort of behavior, not just this one video. My point is, as disgusting as the video that has been shown now is, we (as a society) need to do more before, and after we see this. For those who're seeing it for the first time, report, flag, get their channel down. Let's all of us do what we can to stop/prevent this kinda stuff, other than sitting on a motherboard. To round-about it back to my original point, I (solely myself) think we can't have the "head in the sand" approach as earlier, and if we do, leave it there, if that makes sense. To hood quote it "Get down or lay down" about being proactive. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 18, 2017 13:54:58 GMT -5
Let's not act completely shocked and/or appalled when stuff like this happens. This is a result of the culture we live in where people are becoming celebrities for the stupidest of reasons. Anybody with a camera and the ability to upload videos can be famous now be it for good reasons, or crap like this video
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Post by Hawk Hart on Apr 18, 2017 14:01:33 GMT -5
What point are you trying to make? Who are you trying to hold responsible for this? As has been stated many times and even conceded by you, lots of people had no idea these people were being such public assholes until this video. Of course people are pissed off, these jerkasses made their child cry for "entertainment" and the visual of a child crying out of fear of their parents is going to cause an emotional response. Until you can prove that people who "enabled" them in the past are complaining now, you need to stop pushing that narrative because a lot of people, myself included, are just now finding out about these two clownshoes and are disgusted by their entire history with this sort of behavior, not just this one video. My point is, as disgusting as the video that has been shown now is, we (as a society) need to do more before, and after we see this. For those who're seeing it for the first time, report, flag, get their channel down. Let's all of us do what we can to stop/prevent this kinda stuff, other than sitting on a motherboard. To round-about it back to my original point, I (solely myself) think we can't have the "head in the sand" approach as earlier, and if we do, leave it there, if that makes sense. To hood quote it "Get down or lay down" about being proactive. You literally said, So, which is it? Do we need to all shut the hell up and let these assholes continue being assholes or do we need to need proactive and start stepping up when we see shit like this? You can't have it both ways but you're trying to argue both sides of the case. You can't call the people who are complaining out as "sensitive" while simultaneously saying "we (as a society) need to do more before, and after we see this." |
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Post by SmashTV on Apr 18, 2017 14:21:16 GMT -5
The swearing and accusation in the clip speaks volumes - if they talk like this regularly to their children, the kids are going to grow up with little self-esteem. Teasing your children with ghost stories or whatever is okay, if you don't go too far. This, on the other hand, is practically child cruelty.
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Post by xCompackx on Apr 18, 2017 14:49:20 GMT -5
The reaction of the parents is what confuses me. Did they seriously not think screaming at their children only to say "lol jk" would garner a negative reaction? We live in a world where parents legitimately abuse their kids like this; doing it as a "joke" is the absolute dumbest thing.
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Post by ronin705 on Apr 18, 2017 14:57:10 GMT -5
My point is, as disgusting as the video that has been shown now is, we (as a society) need to do more before, and after we see this. For those who're seeing it for the first time, report, flag, get their channel down. Let's all of us do what we can to stop/prevent this kinda stuff, other than sitting on a motherboard. To round-about it back to my original point, I (solely myself) think we can't have the "head in the sand" approach as earlier, and if we do, leave it there, if that makes sense. To hood quote it "Get down or lay down" about being proactive. You literally said, So, which is it? Do we need to all shut the hell up and let these assholes continue being assholes or do we need to need proactive and start stepping up when we see shit like this? You can't have it both ways but you're trying to argue both sides of the case. You can't call the people who are complaining out as "sensitive" while simultaneously saying "we (as a society) need to do more before, and after we see this." It's either your about or you're not. Don't make a stink after the fact. I believe "PC Society = People who jump the hot take reaction bandwagon, but wouldn't care about it otherwise". |
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Post by MC Blowfish on Apr 18, 2017 15:08:39 GMT -5
Wow! These people are real pieces of work. Nothing about this is funny and it's not a case of people minding their own business or the so-called PC culture. Play your pranks all you want on adults, but to do that to your kids is borderline abuse.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Apr 18, 2017 15:09:36 GMT -5
~sigh~
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Post by Hawk Hart on Apr 18, 2017 15:14:08 GMT -5
You literally said, So, which is it? Do we need to all shut the hell up and let these assholes continue being assholes or do we need to need proactive and start stepping up when we see shit like this? You can't have it both ways but you're trying to argue both sides of the case. You can't call the people who are complaining out as "sensitive" while simultaneously saying "we (as a society) need to do more before, and after we see this." It's either your about or you're not. Don't make a stink after the fact. I believe "PC Society = People who jump the hot take reaction bandwagon, but wouldn't care about it otherwise". But most of the people complaining are people who are just now seeing this sort of shit and thus, would not have cared before because they weren't aware of it. You're using this weird logic chain where people that don't complain about the problem are part of the problem but people who do complain are just doing it because they saw a kid cry. That's completely ignoring that there's tons of people like myself who show this disdain for this sort of behavior wherever we see it, but because we weren't complaining about this specific sort of thing where asshats go on the internet and bully their kids so edgelords can get a laugh we're taking a "head in the sand" approach according to you. I can't follow where your argument is going because it keeps going in the same irrational circles. |
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