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Post by hossfan on Apr 19, 2017 5:23:09 GMT -5
Have his opponent ignore him while standing two feet away from him while talking about a different opponent. That will make him look deadly! I really hope this was deliberate, and part of the overall story that Orton doesn't take Jinder seriously and it comes back to bite him in the end.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 19, 2017 5:24:09 GMT -5
Ok, talking about this idea of people want neuanced pushes?
This company has demonstrated they can't do a straight forward push. They can't even do a basic story that are based on things from the start of time.
You can't learn to run before you learn to walk crawl. Nor should you try to do the 100m at the Olympics.
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Post by lionelp on Apr 19, 2017 5:32:33 GMT -5
Tired of xenophobia and racism. I hope he wins the title You gone done it now!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 5:35:31 GMT -5
Boy, the Jinder Mahal bandwagon sure filled up overnight. I'm guessing spite is the main motivator.
Look, I don't like the idea at all, not because the dude sucks in the ring, but because he's gone from big time jobber to supposedly a huge threat in one week.
People are going to draw parallels to JBL, but 2004 was arguably the worst year the company had in recent memory, in my opinion.
It also reinforces the message that you must be big and veiny to go anywhere in the company. Big, veiny, and wearing undies in the ring are Vince's most loved traits in a guy.
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Post by PKO on Apr 19, 2017 5:45:14 GMT -5
This is a man who they considered expendable enough to fire a while back, who they hired back simply because they needed to bulk up the numbers before the brand split. He hasn't gotten better in the ring, or on the mic, but he has gotten more muscular and veiny. A man who just last week was rumoured to have given one of the company's hottest prospects a concussion from his recklessness...so they make him the number one contender to the WWE title? Did perhaps the uproar about Finn make WWE think he'd make a good heel? That seems very WWE. Or is it just his look? Whatever it is it's just a baffling choice.
Could Jinder become a successful main event player? Perhaps. That "wtf?" booing he got after his win will likely continue for a while, and could evolve into people booing the character. With time and booking he might become credible...but what's the point? When you've got so many talented wrestlers who the fans would easily accept, who they want to support, who could make money for the company, why push them aside for someone like Jinder bloody Mahal?!
Want him for the Indian market? Fine. He'd be serviceable in the mid-card...in fact he could be a very successful mid-card act. I like the idea of him having a stable; a tag team to do his dirty work, a hot valet (Summer Rae isn't doing anything). He belongs absolutely no where near the WWE title, especially not after being pushed as nothing more than a jobber for his entire tenure.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Apr 19, 2017 5:59:18 GMT -5
I really freaking wish I could go into work, put one of my bosses favorite guy in the hospital through carelessness, then get a promotion for it. Pro wrestling's a weird business.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 19, 2017 6:06:55 GMT -5
Some of y'all are actin like this isn't just a stopgap feud/one off match and that he's gonna get an actual run or something. Relax
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Apr 19, 2017 6:08:11 GMT -5
Some of y'all are actin like this isn't just a stopgap feud/one off match and that he's gonna get an actual run or something. Relax Still, he's essentially being rewarded for injuring Finn. Like....that's undeniable. Week one: Injures top star. Week two: Push against the champion. Stopgap or not, it's not a good look.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 19, 2017 6:11:22 GMT -5
Some of y'all are actin like this isn't just a stopgap feud/one off match and that he's gonna get an actual run or something. Relax Still, he's essentially being rewarded for injuring Finn. Like....that's undeniable. Week one: Injures top star. Week two: Push against the champion. Stopgap or not, it's not a good look. The inconsistency would be if he actually DID get punished for accidentally injuring Balor, because punishing talents for causing in-ring injuries is something I find that they don't really do, even for utterly devastating injuries like Droz and Tyson Kidd.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 19, 2017 6:13:47 GMT -5
Can we also stop actin like that was intentional? Plus, this REALLY seems like they're aware of the scuttlebutt online of "he hurt Finn!" and the anger that's caused with a segment of fans and could be usin that to get a stopgap feud some heat
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 19, 2017 6:18:13 GMT -5
Can we also stop actin like that was intentional? Yeah, it's starting to become obnoxious.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Apr 19, 2017 6:19:16 GMT -5
Can we also stop actin like that was intentional? Plus, this REALLY seems like they're aware of the scuttlebutt online of "he hurt Finn!" and the anger that's caused with a segment of fans and could be usin that to get a stopgap feud some heat I never said he intentionally hurt Finn. These are the facts though: Finn got concussed in a match with Jinder where Jinder threw a sloppy forearm. The next week, Jinder is put in a program with the Champion. Jinder is being rewarded for hurting a guy. Period. Nowhere in there did I accuse him of doing it deliberately. But he is being rewarded for being a sloppy worker.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 19, 2017 6:33:02 GMT -5
I disagree that correlation equals causation. But we're at loggerheads, so I'm not gonna argue back and forth. Though clearly he didn't hurt Finn too badly, given Balor never even missed tv time. Concussions are no joke, but it's not as if Mahal put him on the shelf for any length of time.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 19, 2017 6:37:15 GMT -5
And let's be real here. This isn't a push. It's Bob Holly vs Brock or Bossman vs Big Show. The lowercard guy has NO shot at winning and is just there for a month to catch a quick loss that can in no way hurt them, while the main eventer then goes on to face real threats.
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 19, 2017 6:37:57 GMT -5
If the WWE pushed everybody down the card after they hurt somebody the main event scene would be like.... Renee vs Saxton in a Debate
It's Pro Wrestling. Yes, you try to be as safe as possible, but everybody gets hurt. Everybody. It's a part of the game.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 19, 2017 6:49:15 GMT -5
And let's be real here. This isn't a push. It's Bob Holly vs Brock or Bossman vs Big Show. The lowercard guy has NO shot at winning and is just there for a month to catch a quick loss that can in no way hurt them, while the main eventer then goes on to face real threats. I mean if you wanna go with that, why not Rowan who legitimately laid Orton out last week? Mahal is just... weird. I'm not saying they can't make a program out of it but man they could have had the guy at least beat Rawley last week.
The dude who got punked by Gronk TWICE is your Number One Contender for the world title, did no one in booking see that problem?? Any sort of build woulda been nice...
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Post by captainhindsite on Apr 19, 2017 6:54:16 GMT -5
I think this is all leading to brock joining smackdown and bringing the universal title with him. There staying quite about what happens to the wwe belt should orton lose to bray. Also there are most defiently pushing the US belt as way more important right now. I say orton loses to Bray then jinder comes out on smackdown with the bollys starts talking some shit and then......ladies and gentlemen my name is Paul Heyman
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Post by Dub H on Apr 19, 2017 8:24:35 GMT -5
He can be a threat But can he do the Shuffle? ![](http://i.imgur.com/dVr0THq.gif)
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Post by Dub H on Apr 19, 2017 8:30:39 GMT -5
Still, he's essentially being rewarded for injuring Finn. Like....that's undeniable. Week one: Injures top star. Week two: Push against the champion. Stopgap or not, it's not a good look. The inconsistency would be if he actually DID get punished for accidentally injuring Balor, because punishing talents for causing in-ring injuries is something I find that they don't really do, even for utterly devastating injuries like Droz and Tyson Kidd. Yeh,Rollins injured Balor on the day Balor won the title,and for a long ass time. Now ,fair enough,people called for Rollins head and he is a bigger star.But there was no punishment
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 8:35:44 GMT -5
The inconsistency would be if he actually DID get punished for accidentally injuring Balor, because punishing talents for causing in-ring injuries is something I find that they don't really do, even for utterly devastating injuries like Droz and Tyson Kidd. Yeh,Rollins injured Balor on the day Balor won the title,and for a long ass time. Now ,fair enough,people called for Rollins head and he is a bigger star.But there was no punishment Did.......did you see how he was booked for most of that HHH feud? I wonder if that was his punishment.
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