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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 13:16:05 GMT -5
Sting as the leader of the NWO I can't imagine that really working at all for a variety of reasons. He'd end up laying himself out, with "NWO" spray-painted on his back. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 15:46:07 GMT -5
WWE apparently wanted Samoa Joe to be Umaga before he went to TNA. I have my doubts about that. Umaga signed with WWE in December 2005 and would've reformed Three Minute Warning had Rosey not been released not long after, resulting in the creation of the Umaga gimmick. Joe had been signed to TNA for six months before that, and Vince had been dead set against bringing Joe in despite the best efforts of Heyman and Prichard to convince him to - Vince saw him as just a generic fat Samoan, who didn't even have the benefit of any Anoa'i family connection. Joe has said himself in an interview before that it's true. |
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Aug 8, 2017 15:49:48 GMT -5
I can't imagine that really working at all for a variety of reasons. He'd end up laying himself out, with "NWO" spray-painted on his back. Everyone turns on sting...even sting turns on sting... |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 8, 2017 15:54:59 GMT -5
He'd end up laying himself out, with "NWO" spray-painted on his back. Everyone turns on sting...even sting turns on sting...  |
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Post by Baby, it’s Jes outside on Aug 8, 2017 17:27:23 GMT -5
Owen Hart as The Game. What would HHH's gimmick have been then?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 8, 2017 18:10:06 GMT -5
I have my doubts about that. Umaga signed with WWE in December 2005 and would've reformed Three Minute Warning had Rosey not been released not long after, resulting in the creation of the Umaga gimmick. Joe had been signed to TNA for six months before that, and Vince had been dead set against bringing Joe in despite the best efforts of Heyman and Prichard to convince him to - Vince saw him as just a generic fat Samoan, who didn't even have the benefit of any Anoa'i family connection. Joe has said himself in an interview before that it's true. I still consider it doubtful. Prichard, Heyman, and HHH have all stated Vince had zero interest in Joe, and he was still less than enthusiastic when HHH eventually pushed through the deal to sign him. Even Court Bauer, who is credited with creating the Umaga gimmick, has said Joe wasn't even considered for it, and due to him already being contracted to TNA at the time could not have been offered it. In a number of interviews Joe has been very critical of the gimmick while praising Eddie Fatu's work. Hard to believe Joe would've been on board with the idea of taking on a gimmick he clearly disdained, so perhaps his confirmation was more of a throwaway "If I'd signed with WWE they'd probably have stuck me with that shitty gimmick" or perhaps he'd simply believed the rumour. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 18:13:55 GMT -5
Joe has said himself in an interview before that it's true. I still consider it doubtful. Prichard, Heyman, and HHH have all stated Vince had zero interest in Joe, and he was still less than enthusiastic when HHH eventually pushed through the deal to sign him. Even Court Bauer, who is credited with creating the Umaga gimmick, has said Joe wasn't even considered for it, and due to him already being contracted to TNA at the time could not have been offered it. In a number of interviews Joe has been very critical of the gimmick while praising Eddie Fatu's work. Hard to believe Joe would've been on board with the idea of taking on a gimmick he clearly disdained, so perhaps his confirmation was more of a throwaway "If I'd signed with WWE they'd probably have stuck me with that shitty gimmick" or perhaps he'd simply believed the rumour. No, he said that his TNA contract was coming up for renewal. WWE reached out to him and asked if he wanted to be Umaga. He said no, he only wanted to go if he could be Samoa Joe and they didn't want that. Thus, he re-signed with TNA. I'm not saying whether it's true or not, I'm just saying that this is the story as told by Samoa Joe. |
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Post by chronocross on Aug 8, 2017 18:27:25 GMT -5
Owen Hart as The Game. What would HHH's gimmick have been then? I've heard that rumor many times, but I doubt it. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 8, 2017 18:28:43 GMT -5
I still consider it doubtful. Prichard, Heyman, and HHH have all stated Vince had zero interest in Joe, and he was still less than enthusiastic when HHH eventually pushed through the deal to sign him. Even Court Bauer, who is credited with creating the Umaga gimmick, has said Joe wasn't even considered for it, and due to him already being contracted to TNA at the time could not have been offered it. In a number of interviews Joe has been very critical of the gimmick while praising Eddie Fatu's work. Hard to believe Joe would've been on board with the idea of taking on a gimmick he clearly disdained, so perhaps his confirmation was more of a throwaway "If I'd signed with WWE they'd probably have stuck me with that shitty gimmick" or perhaps he'd simply believed the rumour. No, he said that his TNA contract was coming up for renewal. WWE reached out to him and asked if he wanted to be Umaga. He said no, he only wanted to go if he could be Samoa Joe and they didn't want that. Thus, he re-signed with TNA. I'm not saying whether it's true or not, I'm just saying that this is the story as told by Samoa Joe. Assuming Joe was only signed to a one-year deal by TNA it's certainly possible, but between Vince's opposition to Joe until a couple of months into his NXT run, Umaga already being on TV three months before Joe's contract would've theoretically been up for renewal, and HHH and three members of WWE's creative team at the time, including the creator of the character, all stating the gimmick was created for Eddie Fatu my doubts still remain. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 8, 2017 18:35:47 GMT -5
Owen Hart as The Game. What would HHH's gimmick have been then? I've heard that rumor many times, but I doubt it. That's because people get this idea Owen would be in denim and leather, spitting water. He was gonna call himself The Game. That's it. He would still be Owen. Like The Rocket, The King of Harts, The Two Time Slammy Award Winning....and so on. |
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Post by chronocross on Aug 8, 2017 18:45:23 GMT -5
I've heard that rumor many times, but I doubt it. That's because people get this idea Owen would be in denim and leather, spitting water. He was gonna call himself The Game. That's it. He would still be Owen. Like The Rocket, The King of Harts, The Two Time Slammy Award Winning....and so on. Maybe that's why I have a hard time imagining it, was this confirmed by anyone? |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 8, 2017 18:46:51 GMT -5
That's because people get this idea Owen would be in denim and leather, spitting water. He was gonna call himself The Game. That's it. He would still be Owen. Like The Rocket, The King of Harts, The Two Time Slammy Award Winning....and so on. Maybe that's why I have a hard time imagining it, was this confirmed by anyone? As far as I know just Triple H. |
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Post by chronocross on Aug 8, 2017 19:02:36 GMT -5
Maybe that's why I have a hard time imagining it, was this confirmed by anyone? As far as I know just Triple H. Interesting, never knew that. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 8, 2017 19:07:32 GMT -5
As far as I know just Triple H. Interesting, never knew that. What I've always heard was taking the Game was his way of honoring Owen. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 8, 2017 20:44:44 GMT -5
Lanny Poffo was originally going to be the new Gorgeous George in WCW but they ended up giving it to Randy's girlfriend (if you believe Lanny, Randy actually bought the gimmick for his brother).
There were rumors that Chris Benoit was the original choice for The Ringmaster instead of Steve Austin
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Aug 8, 2017 21:52:59 GMT -5
Lanny Poffo was originally going to be the new Gorgeous George in WCW but they ended up giving it to Randy's girlfriend (if you believe Lanny, Randy actually bought the gimmick for his brother). There were rumors that Chris Benoit was the original choice for The Ringmaster instead of Steve Austin I think that's because apparently WWE had "Ringmaster" trademarked and on the books for a while, and when Benoit popped up doing tryouts with Dibiase as his manager, then a few months later, out comes Austin, with Dibiase, calling himself "The Ringmaster". It's a pretty easy leap to make. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 8, 2017 22:00:02 GMT -5
Lanny Poffo was originally going to be the new Gorgeous George in WCW but they ended up giving it to Randy's girlfriend (if you believe Lanny, Randy actually bought the gimmick for his brother). Lanny's not the source of that information, he only confirmed it years after it was well known. |
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Aug 8, 2017 22:22:17 GMT -5
New Japan Pro Wrestling originally wanted to give the Big Van Vader gimmick to the Dingo Warrior. He ended up going to the WWF instead and got the Ultimate Warrior gimmick. I had heard that it was either White or Sid Eudy who was going to get the Vader gimmick (probably from a Cornette interview), but I don't know when Sid was anywhere near New Japan in order to be in the running. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 8, 2017 23:08:07 GMT -5
New Japan Pro Wrestling originally wanted to give the Big Van Vader gimmick to the Dingo Warrior. He ended up going to the WWF instead and got the Ultimate Warrior gimmick. I had heard that it was either White or Sid Eudy who was going to get the Vader gimmick (probably from a Cornette interview), but I don't know when Sid was anywhere near New Japan in order to be in the running. I've never heard Sid's name mentioned regarding this - it's always been Warrior they were eyeing first before going with Leon. |
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Aug 8, 2017 23:47:19 GMT -5
I had heard that it was either White or Sid Eudy who was going to get the Vader gimmick (probably from a Cornette interview), but I don't know when Sid was anywhere near New Japan in order to be in the running. I've never heard Sid's name mentioned regarding this - it's always been Warrior they were eyeing first before going with Leon. Leon claimed Sid was also up for consideration but I believe Warrior was the original choice. |
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