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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Jan 12, 2018 6:38:50 GMT -5
In 1990, who the f*** cares about some jobber Sting used to know?  (Gotye memes are still funny in 2018, right?)  |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 12, 2018 14:27:25 GMT -5
Christopher Daniels was supposed to be the higher power character but McMahon vetoed because Daniels was too small in his opinion. As bad as the Higher Power payoff was, this would have been hot garbage. Nobody knew who in the blazes he was. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jan 12, 2018 14:36:42 GMT -5
Christopher Daniels was supposed to be the higher power character but McMahon vetoed because Daniels was too small in his opinion. As bad as the Higher Power payoff was, this would have been hot garbage. Nobody knew who in the blazes he was. Yeah, I gotta agree, I mean, he's a great wrestler and everything, but THIS GUY  Bosses around THE UNDERTAKER?  |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 12, 2018 14:45:58 GMT -5
As bad as the Higher Power payoff was, this would have been hot garbage. Nobody knew who in the blazes he was. Yeah, I gotta agree, I mean, he's a great wrestler and everything, but THIS GUY Bosses around THE UNDERTAKER? That's what Vince said lol. |
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jan 13, 2018 11:46:24 GMT -5
I've also heard that Curt Hennig was supposed to be the guy that was under the "masked man" gimmick that kept attacking Hogan during his first few months in WCW, which was eventually revealed to be Brutus Beefcake. Yep, if you watch the first time the MM appeared, on the August '94 Clash, commentary kept dropping hints like how Flair had just committed "the perfect crime." Dreamer as an American Male was of course referenced in Cactus Jack's anti-hardcore promos in ECW. |
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Jan 13, 2018 13:30:26 GMT -5
As far as the Black Scorpion goes, there really was no original guy. Ole wrote the name on a booking sheet as a joke and Jim Herd insisted that he go with it, even after Ole explained that it was a joke and there was no Black Scorpion.
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Post by thetower52 on Jan 13, 2018 19:07:10 GMT -5
Not "Gimmick" exactly but the only reason Matt Hardy was revealed as the person who'd been ruining Jeff's life for months was because everyone and their grandma figured out it was Christian. Still would of been better for everyone if it was Christian |
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jan 14, 2018 11:54:58 GMT -5
Lanny Poffo was originally going to be the new Gorgeous George in WCW but they ended up giving it to Randy's girlfriend (if you believe Lanny, Randy actually bought the gimmick for his brother). There were rumors that Chris Benoit was the original choice for The Ringmaster instead of Steve Austin I think Ringmaster would've fit Benoit better tbh. Silent wrestler who just kicks ass, perfect. |
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Post by Dragonfly on Jan 14, 2018 14:26:48 GMT -5
Luke Harper was supposed to be the jobber in the role that eventually became Colin Delaney, but was too tall for it...did that count? The part was written for indie worker John McChesny, who didn't get it because Michael Hayes is an indecisive jackass. Jimmy Olsen was also in the running, IIRC. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 14:55:39 GMT -5
Christopher Daniels was supposed to be the higher power character but McMahon vetoed because Daniels was too small in his opinion. As bad as the Higher Power payoff was, this would have been hot garbage. Nobody knew who in the blazes he was. I gotta disagree, I think the whole thing would have worked out better with an unknown. I think an unknown would have allowed them to really dig into story and go with something fresh and open up more options than sticking with Vince/Austin. I could see Shane making it work though. As for Daniels in it, I'm 50/50 on that. I haven't seen much of any of his work from that time to judge it fairly. As for the size thing, I don't see that mattering if Daniels could bring it on the mic like he does now. Paul Bearer wasn't exactly an imposing figure physically but his personality and character made up for it. Same for James Mitchell, Jim Cornette and many others. Honestly that might have made it work better since Austin getting his hands on him could have provided some major moments with Austin, Vince, Vince and Austin working together and so on. |
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Post by TGM on Jan 14, 2018 18:37:39 GMT -5
Has there ever been a legitimate source for the Daniels / Higher Power story? I've never believed this.
It sounds like somebody just made it up as a What If in about 2004 as Daniels was a "dark" character.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 14, 2018 18:47:16 GMT -5
Supposedly, Jim Cornette gave Dusty Rhodes two names to replace Dennis Condrey after he split from the Midnight Express. Dusty went with the first name, Tim Horner, but couldn't get ahold of him, so he called the second name, Stan Lane, who did.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 14, 2018 18:50:51 GMT -5
Supposedly, Jim Cornette gave Dusty Rhodes two names to replace Dennis Condrey after he split from the Midnight Express. Dusty went with the first name, Tim Horner, but couldn't get ahold of him, so he called the second name, Stan Lane, who did. That’s how Hogan lost the grill, brother! |
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 14, 2018 19:00:38 GMT -5
Supposedly, Jim Cornette gave Dusty Rhodes two names to replace Dennis Condrey after he split from the Midnight Express. Dusty went with the first name, Tim Horner, but couldn't get ahold of him, so he called the second name, Stan Lane, who did. Man, I can't remember ever being gladder that someone couldn't be assed to answer their phone. Tim Horner in the Midnights? |
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 14, 2018 19:02:44 GMT -5
Has there ever been a legitimate source for the Daniels / Higher Power story? I've never believed this. It sounds like somebody just made it up as a What If in about 2004 as Daniels was a "dark" character. I think it's confusion being accepted as fact. Daniels WAS supposed to be the higher power behind Vampiro in WCW, but the whole angle got scrapped for reasons I can't recall, and I think people may be getting things muddled. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 19:05:10 GMT -5
What would Tim Hotner’s Midnight Express name have been? “Tantalizing” Tim?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 20:29:02 GMT -5
Has there ever been a legitimate source for the Daniels / Higher Power story? I've never believed this. It sounds like somebody just made it up as a What If in about 2004 as Daniels was a "dark" character. I think it's confusion being accepted as fact. Daniels WAS supposed to be the higher power behind Vampiro in WCW, but the whole angle got scrapped for reasons I can't recall, and I think people may be getting things muddled. I believe both Russo and Prichard have confirmed Daniels was supposed to get the role but McMahon vetoed it. Russo it recycled in WCW because wanted have Daniels paying that role. |
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 14, 2018 20:43:14 GMT -5
I think it's confusion being accepted as fact. Daniels WAS supposed to be the higher power behind Vampiro in WCW, but the whole angle got scrapped for reasons I can't recall, and I think people may be getting things muddled. I believe both Russo and Prichard have confirmed Daniels was supposed to get the role but McMahon vetoed it. Russo it recycled in WCW because wanted have Daniels paying that role. Ah, fair enough, then. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 14, 2018 20:53:37 GMT -5
I have a sneaking suspicion that had they gone through with Daniels as the Higher Power, the whole thing would have been booked much differently as it went along. There wouldn't be any sort of "It was me, Austin" reveal moment. Most likely, they'd probably have introduced him less-bombastically in a vignette or something where UT pledges his alleigance to some robed figure. Probably a few more vignettes of the hooded figure giving demonic sermons with UT and the Ministry standing below his pulpit. Very likely would have been used more as the mic guy than as a force to be reckoned with in the ring by Austin.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 14, 2018 21:12:04 GMT -5
I thought the Higher Power was going to be Jake Roberts.
Also wasn't the Undertaker supposed to been in the Egg at Survivor Series 90?
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