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Post by Woo on Sept 6, 2017 15:47:58 GMT -5
Mercedes is also one of the best female promos. I hate her constant use of the knife edge chops in Shimmer but the woman is great.
These new names are so confusing but Dakota has been my favourite for years so go her!
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Sept 6, 2017 17:54:53 GMT -5
My wife couldn't remember Shayna's name, so she came up with possibly my favorite thing ever when she referred to her as "Sharon Corbin".
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Post by mystikz on Sept 6, 2017 18:35:29 GMT -5
Impressed by Dakota Kai. Liked Toni and Kairi too.
Don't really care at all about Meredes or Shayna. Shayna just seems forced MMA no personality girl.
Piper needs to get away from catering. Maybe move away from the great state of morbid obesity.
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Post by lionheart21 on Sept 6, 2017 18:38:39 GMT -5
Impressed by Dakota Kai. Liked Toni and Kairi too. Don't really care at all about Meredes or Shayna. Shayna just seems forced MMA no personality girl. Piper needs to get away from catering. Maybe move away from the great state of morbid obesity.Stay classy
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Sept 6, 2017 18:39:39 GMT -5
Just finished the last episode. Damn hard hitting match between Baszler and Mercedes. Sign Mercedes pretty please. Shayna impressed the hell out of me as well and I can totally see why they went for her in the finals. Sane and Toni was amazing, those two put themselves through hell and it showed. Toni also needs to be a main stay one day soon, I know I said that before but holy crap I love her. Can't wait for next tuesday.
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Post by jhbboy198917 on Sept 6, 2017 18:47:00 GMT -5
Impressed by Dakota Kai. Liked Toni and Kairi too. Don't really care at all about Meredes or Shayna. Shayna just seems forced MMA no personality girl. Piper needs to get away from catering. Maybe move away from the great state of morbid obesity. SMH with the fat jokes about Piper
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Post by PKO on Sept 6, 2017 18:50:56 GMT -5
Some more random thoughts: The commentary was definitely a step up from the first rounds. Still not good, but better. I liked the roses. No, they didn't do it for the men, but that's ok.
Abbey Laith vs. Rachel Evers A better showcase for Evers, but I still wasn't overly impressed with her. Her fundamentals seem decent, but while some people have that "it" factor, she is not one of those people. I do very much like Abbey though and I'm hoping to see her become a regular on NXT. She's got a great babyface energy. A few good spots (the double kick) and I still love Abbey's pinning tribute to Mae Young
Piper Niven vs. Serena Deeb A step up for Piper from the first round, and I liked the story of Serena trying to lift her throughout the match. It's an old classic in the big guy/little guy match ups, but is rarely used for the ladies. Shame to see Serena knocked out, I hope she gets a more permanent return.
Mercedes Martinez vs. Pricesa Sugehit The first of several matches I'm having a hard time remembering...binge watching the tournament left me with some fatigue! Random note, I love Mercedes's music. I thought Mercedes came out looking like one of the best in the tournament, and I would be surprised if she didn't get some sort of job out of this tournament (even if it's just a trainers role)
Kairi Sane vs. Bianca Belair Wow. What a shocker this was. I'd go as far to say this may be the match of the tournament so far. Kairi was always going to go to the end, so they wisely used this match to showcase Bianca, and what a showcase it was. She looked tremendous. Incredible to think she only has a years experience under her belt. Several great spots; the 450, the brutal hair whipping in the corner, that backhand. Shame the elbow was off, but it hardly put a damper on a surprisingly great match
Toni Storm vs. Lacey Evans Not quite as impressive as Belair, but Evans does have some potential. Ditch the wrestlecious presentation ASAP. A few cools spots, but overall it looked more like a first round match.
Shayna Baszler vs. Mia Yim Gave us a better look at Shayna, who looked pretty good. My big flaw with her is her lack of facial expressions...even if she is a destructive submission machine, she's gotta do something more than that blank stare (especially in a match with Mia Yim who's face is so expressive). Again, sad to see Mia eliminated...hoping for an NXT contract for her. A good match. Initially I was wondering what Mia was thinking going for a 450 after Bianca busted out her picture perfect version, but all was forgiven when Shayna locked in her submission...that was nasty!
Rhea Ripley vs. Dakota Kai Can't remember much from this one...not bad, just not particularly noteworthy. I still came away liking both ladies, and I think they have a lot of potential.
Candice LaRae vs. Nicole Savoy Remember next to nothing of this one. Sorry ladies.
Abbey Laith vs. Mercedes Martinez While this was a strong match all in all, it looked like Abbey was worn out by this point. The crossbody to the outside was pretty feeble, and near the end she looked exhausted. Did Mercedes really hurt herself in the tournament? She played the injury very well.
Shayna Baszler vs. Candice LaRae This was all about the finish, which gave Shayna the edge she needed, exactly when she needed it. She's been a dominant force, but refusing to break the hold and then (even better) kicking Candice when Johnny was attending to her turned her into a super heel. I love that they've put over the submission move can come out of nowhere, and she just comes off like the biggest bitch after this. Love it.
Piper Niven vs. Toni Storm Here we go, this is the match where I saw Piper's potential. A lot of fun stuff from these two early on, and she really shone doing that. One of my big complaints with her was that I had no idea how she was trying to portray herself, and with this match she started to showcase herself in a positive way. Again, they did the story of trying to take the big woman down, but with Toni going for a specific move it didn't seem like a copy of the Serena/Piper match. My one complaint was they could have just ended after the top rope suplex, the leg drop felt a little unnecessary.
Kairi Sane vs. Dakota Kai A good match again (Kairi is something special) and I really like Dakota. The finish seemed a little quick to me, but not much else for me to say.
Mercedes Martinez vs. Shayna Baszler On paper I didn't like this match at all, but I didn't know of their history. Maybe they could have mentioned that a little earlier. I loved that it started with a handshake; Shayna refusing to shake anyone elses hand helped establish her character, and doing it here established their respect. I love that Mercedes took the advantage early, showing that experience in a wrestling ring counts for something. Both ladies best match of the tournament.
Toni Storm vs. Kairi Sane Of all Kairi's matches in this tournament, I probably liked this one the least. It was solid, but I thought the Bianca and Tessa matches were better overall. The crossbody was nasty, as was Toni's armbar. Kairi's post match celebration with Stephanie, HHH and Sara emphasised to me that I really, really, really want her to win. She is just a lovely lady, and she has such a natural babyface energy.
Loved the staredown to end it all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 20:16:54 GMT -5
I definitely think Shayna has potential as an unlikable, douchebag heel.
And I feel like I should like Kairi Sane, but she hasn't clicked with me yet for some reason. I like her elbow, though.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 6, 2017 20:26:40 GMT -5
Toni Storm kind of feels like she walked straight out of Rumble Roses.
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on Sept 6, 2017 21:19:19 GMT -5
To the person who posted that disgusting comment about Piper Niven (and I'm not going to bother quoting it as to give it any more attention), keep those comments for YouTube with all the other trolls.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 7, 2017 0:28:27 GMT -5
Piper needs to get away from catering. Maybe move away from the great state of morbid obesity. Absolutely classless. I'm really sick of seeing junk like this not just on the forum but just comments in general about a wrestler. Who f***ing cares what they look like? If they wrestle well, thats all that matters. They can be rail thin or chunky. If they're a great worker, it DOESN'T MATTER. Even if they suck it's some of the cheapest most gradeschool level shit you can go to, to cheap shot the way they look. This is wrestling, not a beauty contest, they shouldn't need to live up to some jaded standard as to what a wrestler should look like, and they aren't going to. So stop with the bullshit, this isn't just directed at you, but to everyone who feels the need to constantly point out how a wrestlers looks don't appeal to them and that somehow makes them less of a person.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Sept 7, 2017 1:13:11 GMT -5
There's no doubt that Niven is a better wrestler, she doesn't have anywhere near the presence of Nia Jax. Jax looks like wants to hurt people, Niven looks like she got lost heading to read on the beach. A wrestler should look like a wrestler, not somebody who walked out of the crowd. Before anyone jumps down my throat, what I mean when I say that, is attire, how they carry themselves, what makes them standout. In my opinion, nothing about her really stood out.
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Post by Bungle on Sept 7, 2017 1:16:09 GMT -5
If "jokes" about Dreamer and catering and the "He is fat" video are not only allowed but used commonly on this board, you can't get upset now.
It's the same situation.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 7, 2017 1:29:28 GMT -5
If "jokes" about Dreamer and catering and the "He is fat" video are not only allowed but used commonly on this board, you can't get upset now. It's the same situation. I think there is a difference between quips in good fun, and then saying "Niven is morbidly obese and should lay off the catering", that's not funny, it's distasteful and is basically body shaming someone who doesn't deserve it. So no it's not the same situation.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 7, 2017 1:31:28 GMT -5
There's no doubt that Niven is a better wrestler, she doesn't have anywhere near the presence of Nia Jax. Jax looks like wants to hurt people, Niven looks like she got lost heading to read on the beach. A wrestler should look like a wrestler, not somebody who walked out of the crowd. Before anyone jumps down my throat, what I mean when I say that, is attire, how they carry themselves, what makes them standout. In my opinion, nothing about her really stood out. I'd say a Woman who is a bigger size that is moving at the pace she was is standing out to me more than anything else. Her look has a more old school feel to it as well. I would say her matches stood out way more because of it, because she was so distinct and different people had to try and take her down different ways, while at the same time she was keeping up and being able to work the same style as them despite herself. The Bridge Handshake with Storm was one of the best moments of this whole Tourney.
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Post by Bungle on Sept 7, 2017 1:37:24 GMT -5
If "jokes" about Dreamer and catering and the "He is fat" video are not only allowed but used commonly on this board, you can't get upset now. It's the same situation. I think there is a difference between quips in good fun, and then saying "Niven is morbidly obese and should lay off the catering", that's not funny, it's distasteful and is basically body shaming someone who doesn't deserve it. So no it's not the same situation. I personally don't find it fun, but it's what it is. She is fat,she knows and going for his social media and modeling photos she is not insecure about it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 7, 2017 2:15:16 GMT -5
I think there is a difference between quips in good fun, and then saying "Niven is morbidly obese and should lay off the catering", that's not funny, it's distasteful and is basically body shaming someone who doesn't deserve it. So no it's not the same situation. I personally don't find it fun, but it's what it is. She is fat,she knows and going for his social media and modeling photos she is not insecure about it. It's still not right, personally I would like to talk about Piper Niven without some assholes going "Yeah but yknow she's fat right??" Who f***ing cares? Just let me enjoy wrestling and the performer...
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Sept 7, 2017 2:30:23 GMT -5
I think there is a difference between quips in good fun, and then saying "Niven is morbidly obese and should lay off the catering", that's not funny, it's distasteful and is basically body shaming someone who doesn't deserve it. So no it's not the same situation. I personally don't find it fun, but it's what it is. She is fat,she knows and going for his social media and modeling photos she is not insecure about it. There's a difference between calling someone fat and saying that they're morbidly obsese and might die. And anywhere else it might be "is what it is" but certainly not here.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 7, 2017 2:44:28 GMT -5
There's no doubt that Niven is a better wrestler, she doesn't have anywhere near the presence of Nia Jax. Jax looks like wants to hurt people, Niven looks like she got lost heading to read on the beach. A wrestler should look like a wrestler, not somebody who walked out of the crowd. Before anyone jumps down my throat, what I mean when I say that, is attire, how they carry themselves, what makes them standout. In my opinion, nothing about her really stood out. I'd say a Woman who is a bigger size that is moving at the pace she was is standing out to me more than anything else. Her look has a more old school feel to it as well. I would say her matches stood out way more because of it, because she was so distinct and different people had to try and take her down different ways, while at the same time she was keeping up and being able to work the same style as them despite herself. The Bridge Handshake with Storm was one of the best moments of this whole Tourney. And throwing attire on there... that's like, the quickest fix in the world. Remember Nia's Faberge Egg debut gear? I'm actually curious to see Piper's heel work now, she just has such a cute happy face, I can't imagine her being mean. Giants don't have to be evil, hell, Andre built himself as "big friend to all".
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Post by trollrogue on Sept 7, 2017 6:23:56 GMT -5
She definitely minces her words and she needs to cut back on the facial expressions but you can't deny that she's very confident. She's charismatic enough where she doesn't have to cut promos like Alexa Bliss. ...was that supposed to be a 'bad promo'? Better than any live women's promo on RAW in the last decade and its not even close.
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