AlexaBliss4Life
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Nov 14, 2017 13:11:04 GMT -5
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Nov 14, 2017 13:33:29 GMT -5
Writer brings up some good points.
For me, she's not as good as the internet tries to tell me, either in the ring or on mic. Sorry.. that's just how I feel.
I still think Becky should've gone over her at the end.
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Nov 14, 2017 13:35:58 GMT -5
Hey, its all good dude. Your not required to agree with me.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Nov 14, 2017 13:40:20 GMT -5
I think that this thought never would have crossed my mind had you not brought it to my attention.
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Post by the2ndevil on Nov 14, 2017 13:40:59 GMT -5
Whoever wrote this needs to apologize to Jinder right the hell now.
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Nov 14, 2017 13:48:37 GMT -5
I think that this thought never would have crossed my mind had you not brought it to my attention. Is that a good thing?
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Nov 14, 2017 14:04:11 GMT -5
No.
Alexa is serviceable enough and plays a great character.
Jinder Mahal is a garbage wrestler, a garbage person, and an embarrassment to a company that is responsible for Katie Vick.
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Post by Tenshigure on Nov 14, 2017 14:14:54 GMT -5
No. Alexa is serviceable enough and plays a great character. Jinder Mahal is a garbage wrestler, a garbage person, and an embarrassment to a company that is responsible for Katie Vick. Care to provide some context on this particular? Hate on the way the company used him or his in-ring performance, but separating the character from the person needs a little bit of explanation here...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 14:17:51 GMT -5
Eh...I can see it.
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Post by cabbageboy on Nov 14, 2017 14:17:56 GMT -5
The basic premise here is faulty for a few reasons. First, Jinder had an established career as being a jobber. He was a jobber literally up until he got traded to SD, and then lost to Mojo Rawley early on in his SD run. So there was a cognitive dissonance involved with Jinder. No one bought him in the role because he had never even been presented as a respectable wrestler much less a main event guy or WWE champion.
Let's be honest: Women's division stuff is not held to that same standard. We've seen a bunch of women who aren't any good win the WWE women's title. So while Alexa Bliss may not be great, she's obviously better than most of the terrible divas champs of years past.
I do think the writer has a point with the "Why didn't so and so beat her?" part. Alexa Bliss doesn't seem like she could break an egg, much less be women's champion for months on end. To me, WWE only put the belt back on her to have a semi decent heel for Asuka to annihilate whenever they wrestle. As in someone not totally worthless for Asuka to beat, but someone who really doesn't matter either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 14:24:51 GMT -5
Jinder actually had people talking about the world title. Jinder had the focus on his belt, he was made out to be a paper champion and everybody he faced (sans Nakamura, sheesh) was the better wrestler who was just outsmarted by his shenanigans. For all the problems with Mahal, we were talking about his title and it had a place on the show.
Nobody's talking about the Raw Women's title right now and everyone who Alexa faces looks worse after she faces them. She beats everybody clean and they look like shit. People forget that Alexa is champion because of how badly booked that title is.
Alexa's reign is worse than Mahal's reign.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 14:26:05 GMT -5
Jinder, chiseled giant man that he is, constantly needed help from the Singh Brothers to win matches. 5 foot nothing not-at-all intimidating Alexa Bliss beats damn near everyone cleanly. That’s the biggest source of my frustration.
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Post by hossfan on Nov 14, 2017 14:29:41 GMT -5
Other than 'their look factors into their push' I don't see much of a similarity between the two. Alexa is the better talker, Jinder is the better wrestler. The huge differences are people like Alexa's act so they don't mind her spot on the card and also the disparity of talent is much bigger among the men than it is the women so Mahal's flaws are much more glaring than Bliss's (and I say this as a Jinder fan).
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Nov 14, 2017 14:33:51 GMT -5
No. Alexa is serviceable enough and plays a great character. Jinder Mahal is a garbage wrestler, a garbage person, and an embarrassment to a company that is responsible for Katie Vick. Care to provide some context on this particular? Hate on the way the company used him or his in-ring performance, but separating the character from the person needs a little bit of explanation here... Jinder claims he has creative control with Vince. So why wasn't the racism bullshit vetoed? Either Jinder's a racist or a liar. Here's his claim: www.sescoops.com/jinder-mahal-claims-he-has-creative-control-over-his-character/
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Nov 14, 2017 14:34:05 GMT -5
Eh kinda
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Nov 14, 2017 14:35:13 GMT -5
Care to provide some context on this particular? Hate on the way the company used him or his in-ring performance, but separating the character from the person needs a little bit of explanation here... Jinder claims he has creative control with Vince.So why wasn't the racism bullshit vetoed? Either Jinder's a racist or a liar. Source? I've never heard of this.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Nov 14, 2017 14:35:36 GMT -5
I don't like Alexa at all right now and think that her whole title run has been awful.
And yet, she's still 1000x better than Jinder ever was.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 14, 2017 14:36:34 GMT -5
Hmm I didn’t think of this but yeah as bad as people want to call out Jinder, Alexa has brought nothing to the table with her title reign. People wanted to see Jinder lose and his opponents at least got to kill the Singh Brothers.
No one really gets anything off Alexa and her mic skills have taken a big step back from when she jumped on the scene.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Nov 14, 2017 14:36:37 GMT -5
Jinder claims he has creative control with Vince.So why wasn't the racism bullshit vetoed? Either Jinder's a racist or a liar. Source? I've never heard of this. Surely: “I do have creative control but also Vince (McMahon) gives advice and ideas and I take them. Vince has experience and he has made the biggest sports entertainment in the history. He has made WWE into a global phenomenon. I have a good relation with Vince, he trusts me on the microphone, with my matches, which will only increase with time. I personally want to seek Vince’s advice.” www.sescoops.com/jinder-mahal-claims-he-has-creative-control-over-his-character/
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 14:38:07 GMT -5
I don't like either of the reigns but they aren't comparable. First Alexa was not a champion based on circumstances quite the opposite. Even if Bayley was dying at the vine (she wasn't) as champion, a long term babyface title run feels better then the long dominant mean girl title reigns over the past 4 years. Naomi's long term title reign was a standard okay title reign but it felt so fresh it could of been almost described as good as AJ Styles first WWE Championship reign. Besides Bayley could of just easily feuded with Sasha Banks in that long teased "will they, won't they fight" feud and they could of had interesting long term program together.
But really Alexa is more talented than Jinder but a victim of an stale environment and isn't good as she says is and Jinder benefited immensely from the WTF Factor to remain more relevant but isn't as underrated his strongest supporters claim to be. But are both the worst booked champions this year by far that's where the only similarities really lie into.
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