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Post by Crow Dust on Dec 5, 2017 19:32:32 GMT -5
So, everyone involved except Jeff Cobb and the girl are assholes? Also somehow War Machine
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 5, 2017 19:36:02 GMT -5
So, everyone involved except Jeff Cobb and the girl are assholes? That's a pretty good summery of it, yeah.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Dec 5, 2017 19:57:59 GMT -5
Man. I was just watching some New Japan the other day and thinking I'd probably be a big fan of his if I watched some more.
Turns out he's a shit.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 5, 2017 20:17:57 GMT -5
I've seen a promotion take away Elgin's spot for Cobb. And Cobb is having a field day with the newest revelations haha. Yeah Limitless Wrestling (who has been getting a lot of praise from fans for their shows) have stated that this story is the reason he has been pulled
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Dec 5, 2017 20:43:25 GMT -5
So, everyone involved except Jeff Cobb and the girl are assholes? Well that seems to be the case. But I guess its nice to see that Elgin has been exposed as a sneaky backstabbing shithead.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 5, 2017 20:54:08 GMT -5
Apparently, Elgin has deactivated his twitter again.
Also Kevin Lee Davidson and Danny Adams (2 Elgin students) haven been answering questions and taking over Glory Pro. Davidson especially has openly answered any questions that have come, and is owning up to their mistakes in what happened
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Dec 5, 2017 21:00:11 GMT -5
I just read up on this and what a mess Elgin is making of his life and his career. Part of me didn’t want to look into this stuff but once I started I just couldn’t turn away.
There’s Jeff Cobb retweeting stuff about Elgin implying he smells. That he’s thinking about talking to New Japan about not booking him anymore. That Elgin says Cobb shouldn’t be making suggestions about his matches because he doesn’t have bad matches. Wow. The ego on this guy. Cobb’s letting Elgin know he knows what’s up. Jeff Cobb is not a guy you want pissed at you. That’s not a guy you want a potato from. A bag of potatoes could end up being delivered here. Not saying that’s what’s going to happen but why give a guy like Jeff Cobb a reason. Maybe Elgin feels threatened by him because Cobb has been getting a lot of hard earned and deserved praise lately. Idk.
Then there’s the story that Elgin peed on a girl without her consent and against her will. He’s not Buddy Roberts and that’s not cool. It wasn’t cool when Roberts did it either but you just can’t go around doing stuff like that to people. If that’s his kink, I’m not judging. Just get consent first. No means no.
Apparently someone from his promotion sexually assaulted a girl and he defended her publicly only to trash her privately. Yikes. Now he wants to sell off his promotion to wash his hands of everything, I suppose.
There’s also the evidence of him cheating on his wife when there’s a child involved. That’s just sad. There’s probably more at this rate but that’s what I’ve seen so far. I’m seriously trying to cut down on being judgmental about stuff that’s really not my business but things like all this make it so hard. Ugh.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 5, 2017 21:19:26 GMT -5
So, everyone involved except Jeff Cobb and the girl are assholes? I admittedly am not following super close, but I haven't seen anyone say MsChif did anything, but then again, she's only involved in so far as he's apparently been cheating on her, unless they legit have an open marriage, in which case I still doubt she'd be thrilled with some of his misogynistic behavior.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Dec 5, 2017 21:30:02 GMT -5
So, everyone involved except Jeff Cobb and the girl are assholes? I admittedly am not following super close, but I haven't seen anyone say MsChif did anything, but then again, she's only involved in so far as he's apparently been cheating on her, unless they legit have an open marriage, in which case I still doubt she'd be thrilled with some of his misogynistic behavior. I’d say there’s some a-hole behavior on the girl’s part for exposing a lot of private stuff the way she did, even if it’s a lot of super scuzzy stuff on Elgin’s part. I’m guessing they must have broken off their relationship or something. I honestly don’t know why it all came out the way it did. I went too far down the rabbit hole here as it was and probably still missed a lot.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 5, 2017 21:44:25 GMT -5
Wonder if if Elgin gets kicked to the curb by New Japan in favour of Cobb after this. Cobb is impressing the crowd and this shit is real unbecoming.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 5, 2017 21:46:49 GMT -5
I admittedly am not following super close, but I haven't seen anyone say MsChif did anything, but then again, she's only involved in so far as he's apparently been cheating on her, unless they legit have an open marriage, in which case I still doubt she'd be thrilled with some of his misogynistic behavior. I’d say there’s some a-hole behavior on the girl’s part for exposing a lot of private stuff the way she did, even if it’s a lot of super scuzzy stuff on Elgin’s part. I’m guessing they must have broken off their relationship or something. I honestly don’t know why it all came out the way it did. I went too far down the rabbit hole here as it was and probably still missed a lot. Reading her side of things, it seems like she lashed out and had a bit of a breakdown because she had been asking for help and people ignored her, and this was her way of showing she wasn't lying. She supposedly posted some other stuff that she has taken down. The 2 taking over Glory Pro (Kevin Lee Davidson and Danny Adams) have both stated that what you have seen come out on twitter is exactly what happened.
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Post by Talent Name on Dec 5, 2017 21:50:00 GMT -5
Not only does Elgin look like a fat adult baby but also acts like one too
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 5, 2017 22:35:02 GMT -5
Even when one of them hadn’t been outed as a huge douchebag, Jeff Cobb was definitely a better talent. Elgin might have inadvertently just made Cobb’s career in Japan.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Dec 5, 2017 23:14:11 GMT -5
Even when one of them hadn’t been outed as a huge douchebag, Jeff Cobb was definitely a better talent. Elgin might have inadvertently just made Cobb’s career in Japan. Cobb has enough talent to get there on his own, but this may have sped up the process. I noticed Cobb has already been advertised to replace Elgin on an upcoming independent show. Justice is swift.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 5, 2017 23:18:40 GMT -5
The promoter of Maine based Limitless Wrestling just posted on Facebook that Michael Elgin has been taken off their 1/19 Show. He cited the promotion’s desire to create a fun and safe environment for fans and wrestlers. He then announced that Elgin would be replaced by Jeff Cobb.
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Post by corndog on Dec 5, 2017 23:30:36 GMT -5
Wonder if if Elgin gets kicked to the curb by New Japan in favour of Cobb after this. Cobb is impressing the crowd and this shit is real unbecoming. It's a possibility after all of this. I can't imagine Gedo likes hearing that Elgin is calling the shots around there. Also, as I said before, cheating is a big deal in Japan and has caused guys to lose pushes before and then getting tied to this sexual assault mess is even worse.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 5, 2017 23:31:21 GMT -5
The promoter of Maine based Limitless Wrestling just posted on Facebook that Michael Elgin has been taken off their 1/19 Show. He cited the promotion’s desire to create a fun and safe environment for fans and wrestlers. He then announced that Elgin would be replaced by Jeff Cobb. zing!
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 5, 2017 23:32:39 GMT -5
Isn’t Naito supposed to wrestle for Glory Pro in a couple months? That’s a huge draw, hope dudes don’t lose it behind Elgin being Elgin.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 6, 2017 0:05:08 GMT -5
Wonder if if Elgin gets kicked to the curb by New Japan in favour of Cobb after this. Cobb is impressing the crowd and this shit is real unbecoming. It's a possibility after all of this. I can't imagine Gedo likes hearing that Elgin is calling the shots around there. Also, as I said before, cheating is a big deal in Japan and has caused guys to lose pushes before and then getting tied to this sexual assault mess is even worse. Also making things worse is Elgin shittalking him and going on about how he's going to make sure New Japan doesn't book him again after this. Doubtful Gedo is going to look fondly on that.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 6, 2017 0:09:19 GMT -5
Isn’t Naito supposed to wrestle for Glory Pro in a couple months? That’s a huge draw, hope dudes don’t lose it behind Elgin being Elgin. As of right now he is still schedules to be there wrestling AR Fox
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