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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 18, 2018 20:04:49 GMT -5
He's saying the fans were disrespectful on twitter. What an asshole.
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Post by Rave on Feb 18, 2018 20:46:49 GMT -5
He's saying the fans were disrespectful on twitter. What an asshole. Looks like he's deleted it. Did anyone snag a screenshot?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 18, 2018 20:48:25 GMT -5
He's saying the fans were disrespectful on twitter. What an asshole. Looks like he's deleted it. Did anyone snag a screenshot? The best part is that he said he was deleting his social media accounts but he returned the next day.
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Post by Juice on Feb 18, 2018 22:53:40 GMT -5
Given she has screenshots of him responding to the rape allegations with "I don't care, either suck my dick or stop talking to me" I doubt he's getting proof that she's lying. Elgin is absolutely guilty of being an asshole. But time will tell what the court thinks about what she has done to harm his ability to make a living in his profession. It's important to clarify, also, that she never said she was raped. It was a former boyfriend who wanted to hook up when she didn't. She said he ended up leaving after she said no. That guy didn't rape her, and neither did Elgin. She never claimed it. She got angry when Elgin didn't punish the guy, and was unsympathetic to her as well. Again, guilty of being a jerk, yes. I don't want to watch Elgin wrestle, myself. But she may have taken things too far as far as the continued social media barrage about the situation, which has a lot of inconsistencies as far as her story is concerned. If I had to make a prediction, it will end in her owing him some money for lost wages when all is said and done. I think that everyone involved in the situation are people I would never want to be around or associate with. She absolutely claims to have been raped im friends with her on twitter and its every othet thing she posts. Whom raped her idfk but she's,definitely made it clear she was.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 23:42:16 GMT -5
Elgin is absolutely guilty of being an asshole. But time will tell what the court thinks about what she has done to harm his ability to make a living in his profession. It's important to clarify, also, that she never said she was raped. It was a former boyfriend who wanted to hook up when she didn't. She said he ended up leaving after she said no. That guy didn't rape her, and neither did Elgin. She never claimed it. She got angry when Elgin didn't punish the guy, and was unsympathetic to her as well. Again, guilty of being a jerk, yes. I don't want to watch Elgin wrestle, myself. But she may have taken things too far as far as the continued social media barrage about the situation, which has a lot of inconsistencies as far as her story is concerned. If I had to make a prediction, it will end in her owing him some money for lost wages when all is said and done. I think that everyone involved in the situation are people I would never want to be around or associate with. She absolutely claims to have been raped im friends with her on twitter and its every othet thing she posts. Whom raped her idfk but she's,definitely made it clear she was. "At some point in her life," or specifically by anybody involved in this Elgin/Orleans situation? I could've sworn I saw her clarify in one of her posts that Orleans didn't rape her.
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Post by Juice on Feb 19, 2018 0:18:46 GMT -5
She absolutely claims to have been raped im friends with her on twitter and its every othet thing she posts. Whom raped her idfk but she's,definitely made it clear she was. "At some point in her life," or specifically by anybody involved in this Elgin/Orleans situation? I could've sworn I saw her clarify in one of her posts that Orleans didn't rape her. By a wrestler not becessary Orleans. Most of her vitirol is directed at Elgin at this point though.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 19, 2018 0:24:02 GMT -5
Elgin is a really goddamn frustrating person.
He had a promotion that seemed to be doing well, a sweet gig with NJPW, a family, and plenty of success in the States, too. I mean, granted, he still has most of those, but it's like, I know behavior doesn't always have a clear-cut reason, but it's still enough to make me step back and wonder what the f*** he was thinking doing all this. I guess the "fans were being disrespectful" tweet, deleted or not, was a window into that. Yep, Elgin, they were being disrespectful. They have lost respect for you. Being a selfish creep who talks to people like a slimeball will do that.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 19, 2018 2:43:11 GMT -5
Elgin is a really goddamn frustrating person. He had a promotion that seemed to be doing well, a sweet gig with NJPW, a family, and plenty of success in the States, too. I mean, granted, he still has most of those, but it's like, I know behavior doesn't always have a clear-cut reason, but it's still enough to make me step back and wonder what the f*** he was thinking doing all this. I guess the "fans were being disrespectful" tweet, deleted or not, was a window into that. Yep, Elgin, they were being disrespectful. They have lost respect for you. Being a selfish creep who talks to people like a slimeball will do that. I think he believes nothing is ever his fault and people who criticize him are the ones who are wrong. Like in the Kevin Steen interview he appeared in. Elgin talked about pissing on a woman like if it was normal. Steen wanted to get the f*** out of there. Edit: For those that didn't watch the interview, i found a transcript, Elgin was having sex with a woman and then pressured her into letting him piss on her, Elgin forced her: "So, I proceed to ask this girl if I can piss on her. And at first, she’s saying no, but I’m being very persuasive and saying “Ahh, it’s going to be so good, just keep going and I’ll piss all over you,” blah, blah blah. Finally, to where she gives me the okay to piss on her. So, as she’s saying yes, I begin to piss on her. Her deflection of the piss is this (motions arms waving in front of his face) – but that ain’t stopping no stream of piss from hitting you in the face. So as now she’s realizing that I wasn’t f***ing around when I asked her if I could piss on her and she said yes, I was actually gonna pee on her. So, she’s going like this (more motions of arms waving in front of his face) and all I hear is “NO! No! Stop pissing on me.” They’re laughing, I’m laughing. We have to go back to get my money now. So, we go in... Go back to the room, give me my hundred bucks, I peed on a girl, she said it was okay, it was in the heat of passion, he doesn’t believe me. We try to f***ing rig up the video camera from the (unintelligible), for some reason the video camera will not play it at that second. “I’m telling you,” “No you guys are going to split the money,” blah, blah, blah. Ten minutes later Otis and Conner run into the room laughing. “What’s going on, what’s going on?” Otis is like, “I’m drinking my beer, I’m telling the girl what to do to Tarantula Gomez and all I hear from the bathroom is “(Unintelligible), (unintelligible), Elgin f***ing pissed on me.” So, we wait a little bit, we get paid, we’re going back to the room, these girls are just leaving now and all they can say is see you guys in September. Now, after pissing on the cousin, I look at the wife. Connor, Tarantula Gomez, left a hickey this f***in’ big on her neck (he motions a big size). She’s going home to her husband and they still want to see us in September. Like, that’s f***ed up. But I got paid $100 to pee on a girl in the heat of passion" Source: www.bodyslam.net/2018/02/18/michael-elgin-shares-story-with-kevin-owens-about-urinating-on-a-female-wrestling-fan/
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 19, 2018 20:46:59 GMT -5
She absolutely claims to have been raped im friends with her on twitter and its every othet thing she posts. Whom raped her idfk but she's,definitely made it clear she was. "At some point in her life," or specifically by anybody involved in this Elgin/Orleans situation? I could've sworn I saw her clarify in one of her posts that Orleans didn't rape her. She has made it quite clear that Orleans sexually assaulted her. And the guys running Glory Pro now basically stated what you read online was pretty accurate to what was going on. The one thing I've seen that may bite this girl in the ass is how she is constantly calling Meltzer and Ryan Satin awful human beings for not covering what happened to her to the point of boarderline harassing Satin on twitter to where he blocked her.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Feb 19, 2018 20:57:55 GMT -5
*Looks at the post above the last one* Jesus christ....even if he's not a rapist by the dictionary definition, he's certainly a f***ing cretin, by any definition.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Feb 19, 2018 21:06:21 GMT -5
Elgin is a really goddamn frustrating person. He had a promotion that seemed to be doing well, a sweet gig with NJPW, a family, and plenty of success in the States, too. I mean, granted, he still has most of those, but it's like, I know behavior doesn't always have a clear-cut reason, but it's still enough to make me step back and wonder what the f*** he was thinking doing all this. I guess the "fans were being disrespectful" tweet, deleted or not, was a window into that. Yep, Elgin, they were being disrespectful. They have lost respect for you. Being a selfish creep who talks to people like a slimeball will do that. I think he believes nothing is ever his fault and people who criticize him are the ones who are wrong. Like in the Kevin Steen interview he appeared in. Elgin talked about pissing on a woman like if it was normal. Steen wanted to get the f*** out of there. Edit: For those that didn't watch the interview, i found a transcript, Elgin was having sex with a woman and then pressured her into letting him piss on her, Elgin forced her: "So, I proceed to ask this girl if I can piss on her. And at first, she’s saying no, but I’m being very persuasive and saying “Ahh, it’s going to be so good, just keep going and I’ll piss all over you,” blah, blah blah. Finally, to where she gives me the okay to piss on her. So, as she’s saying yes, I begin to piss on her. Her deflection of the piss is this (motions arms waving in front of his face) – but that ain’t stopping no stream of piss from hitting you in the face. So as now she’s realizing that I wasn’t f***ing around when I asked her if I could piss on her and she said yes, I was actually gonna pee on her. So, she’s going like this (more motions of arms waving in front of his face) and all I hear is “NO! No! Stop pissing on me.” They’re laughing, I’m laughing. We have to go back to get my money now. So, we go in... Go back to the room, give me my hundred bucks, I peed on a girl, she said it was okay, it was in the heat of passion, he doesn’t believe me. We try to f***ing rig up the video camera from the (unintelligible), for some reason the video camera will not play it at that second. “I’m telling you,” “No you guys are going to split the money,” blah, blah, blah. Ten minutes later Otis and Conner run into the room laughing. “What’s going on, what’s going on?” Otis is like, “I’m drinking my beer, I’m telling the girl what to do to Tarantula Gomez and all I hear from the bathroom is “(Unintelligible), (unintelligible), Elgin f***ing pissed on me.” So, we wait a little bit, we get paid, we’re going back to the room, these girls are just leaving now and all they can say is see you guys in September. Now, after pissing on the cousin, I look at the wife. Connor, Tarantula Gomez, left a hickey this f***in’ big on her neck (he motions a big size). She’s going home to her husband and they still want to see us in September. Like, that’s f***ed up. But I got paid $100 to pee on a girl in the heat of passion" Source: www.bodyslam.net/2018/02/18/michael-elgin-shares-story-with-kevin-owens-about-urinating-on-a-female-wrestling-fan/I’d think a professional entertainer might twig to the fact that isn’t even a good story. Got bored reading it, if it wasn’t for the horribleness of what he did there wouldn’t be any value at all.
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Post by corndog on Feb 19, 2018 22:09:19 GMT -5
Elgin is a really goddamn frustrating person. He had a promotion that seemed to be doing well, a sweet gig with NJPW, a family, and plenty of success in the States, too. I mean, granted, he still has most of those, but it's like, I know behavior doesn't always have a clear-cut reason, but it's still enough to make me step back and wonder what the f*** he was thinking doing all this. I guess the "fans were being disrespectful" tweet, deleted or not, was a window into that. Yep, Elgin, they were being disrespectful. They have lost respect for you. Being a selfish creep who talks to people like a slimeball will do that. It really is amazing how well he was doing and how he just screwed up so massively simply by being a disrespectful asshole. It seems he still has a career in Japan and for some reason his wife is still with him, but he has destroyed his career in the US beyond repair. I just don't understand how you could work so hard to become successful, only to screw it up because you feel a need to treat people like garbage.
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Post by ronin705 on Feb 20, 2018 6:43:11 GMT -5
I think he believes nothing is ever his fault and people who criticize him are the ones who are wrong. Like in the Kevin Steen interview he appeared in. Elgin talked about pissing on a woman like if it was normal. Steen wanted to get the f*** out of there. Edit: For those that didn't watch the interview, i found a transcript, Elgin was having sex with a woman and then pressured her into letting him piss on her, Elgin forced her: "So, I proceed to ask this girl if I can piss on her. And at first, she’s saying no, but I’m being very persuasive and saying “Ahh, it’s going to be so good, just keep going and I’ll piss all over you,” blah, blah blah. Finally, to where she gives me the okay to piss on her. So, as she’s saying yes, I begin to piss on her. Her deflection of the piss is this (motions arms waving in front of his face) – but that ain’t stopping no stream of piss from hitting you in the face. So as now she’s realizing that I wasn’t f***ing around when I asked her if I could piss on her and she said yes, I was actually gonna pee on her. So, she’s going like this (more motions of arms waving in front of his face) and all I hear is “NO! No! Stop pissing on me.” They’re laughing, I’m laughing. We have to go back to get my money now. So, we go in... Go back to the room, give me my hundred bucks, I peed on a girl, she said it was okay, it was in the heat of passion, he doesn’t believe me. We try to f***ing rig up the video camera from the (unintelligible), for some reason the video camera will not play it at that second. “I’m telling you,” “No you guys are going to split the money,” blah, blah, blah. Ten minutes later Otis and Conner run into the room laughing. “What’s going on, what’s going on?” Otis is like, “I’m drinking my beer, I’m telling the girl what to do to Tarantula Gomez and all I hear from the bathroom is “(Unintelligible), (unintelligible), Elgin f***ing pissed on me.” So, we wait a little bit, we get paid, we’re going back to the room, these girls are just leaving now and all they can say is see you guys in September. Now, after pissing on the cousin, I look at the wife. Connor, Tarantula Gomez, left a hickey this f***in’ big on her neck (he motions a big size). She’s going home to her husband and they still want to see us in September. Like, that’s f***ed up. But I got paid $100 to pee on a girl in the heat of passion" Source: www.bodyslam.net/2018/02/18/michael-elgin-shares-story-with-kevin-owens-about-urinating-on-a-female-wrestling-fan/I’d think a professional entertainer might twig to the fact that isn’t even a good story. Got bored reading it, if it wasn’t for the horribleness of what he did there wouldn’t be any value at all. Steen/owens disgust by it is what really sells the story lol
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