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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 18, 2017 20:39:26 GMT -5
Well if we're being honest The Rock kinda failed a lot in Hollywood until Fast Five. Before becoming Luke Hobbs, The Rock's films were forgettable action movies and some Disney fiascos. That being said The Rock never had such a bad failure like Ferdinand, I don't think even the tooth fairy was such an embarrassment. I was rooting for John to actually become a household name that wouldn't need the wwe anymore. He actually had prove himself as an actor and start again so everyone could forget those hideous wwe movies, but the fact that the first time you starred in a movie from a real movie studio turns into such a failure might be impossible to overcome. Impossible to overcome? Stallone still has a career after Rhinestone!!
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Post by celtics543 on Dec 18, 2017 21:05:47 GMT -5
Well if we're being honest The Rock kinda failed a lot in Hollywood until Fast Five. Before becoming Luke Hobbs, The Rock's films were forgettable action movies and some Disney fiascos. That being said The Rock never had such a bad failure like Ferdinand, I don't think even the tooth fairy was such an embarrassment. I was rooting for John to actually become a household name that wouldn't need the wwe anymore. He actually had prove himself as an actor and start again so everyone could forget those hideous wwe movies, but the fact that the first time you starred in a movie from a real movie studio turns into such a failure might be impossible to overcome. Impossible to overcome? Stallone still has a career after Rhinestone!! If I've learned anything about Cena since 2002 it's that they haven't invented odds that he can't overcome. Ferdinand is going to come back next week, pump up its hooves, give the you can't see me sign, drop a two horn shuffle fist drop, and give the AA Ole to Darth Vader.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 18, 2017 21:42:14 GMT -5
As disappointing as it is for Cena, I think the studio screwed him by putting it against Star Wars. It was bound to fail.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Dec 18, 2017 22:05:26 GMT -5
It's a massive failure and John Cena should be completely humiliated and humbled by this. I feel for his family to be honest.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 18, 2017 22:13:05 GMT -5
Well if we're being honest The Rock kinda failed a lot in Hollywood until Fast Five. Before becoming Luke Hobbs, The Rock's films were forgettable action movies and some Disney fiascos. That being said The Rock never had such a bad failure like Ferdinand, I don't think even the tooth fairy was such an embarrassment. I was rooting for John to actually become a household name that wouldn't need the wwe anymore. He actually had prove himself as an actor and start again so everyone could forget those hideous wwe movies, but the fact that the first time you starred in a movie from a real movie studio turns into such a failure might be impossible to overcome. Planet 51 with The Rock grossed $12m opening weekend ($1m less than Fernando) on the same weekend as a Twilight movie and he’s not exactly hurting from that right now. Planet 51 wasn't his first starring role. He was somewhat successful before that movie so he was allowed that failure. This is Cena's first starring role, I'm not counting his wwe films because they were so bad that John had to start again as an actor with projects outside the wwe. But you're right Rock overcame Planet 51 and the tooth fairy. John just needs a big project to bounce back.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 18, 2017 22:17:06 GMT -5
Well if we're being honest The Rock kinda failed a lot in Hollywood until Fast Five. Before becoming Luke Hobbs, The Rock's films were forgettable action movies and some Disney fiascos. That being said The Rock never had such a bad failure like Ferdinand, I don't think even the tooth fairy was such an embarrassment. I was rooting for John to actually become a household name that wouldn't need the wwe anymore. He actually had prove himself as an actor and start again so everyone could forget those hideous wwe movies, but the fact that the first time you starred in a movie from a real movie studio turns into such a failure might be impossible to overcome. Impossible to overcome? Stallone still has a career after Rhinestone!! And he also had a career after Spy Kids 3D. But unfortunately John is not a proven name like Stallone. I hope he gets another chance to bounce back. The guy deserves it after everything he did for the business and charity.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 18, 2017 22:18:28 GMT -5
Impossible to overcome? Stallone still has a career after Rhinestone!! And he also had a career after Spy Kids 3D. But unfortunately John is not a proven name like Stallone. I hope he gets another chance to bounce back. The guy deserves it after everything he did for the business and charity. He will. Voice acting is a different ball of wax. I'm sure Kate McKinnon will keep getting work and this is like her 4th box office disappointment in a row.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 18, 2017 22:24:28 GMT -5
And he also had a career after Spy Kids 3D. But unfortunately John is not a proven name like Stallone. I hope he gets another chance to bounce back. The guy deserves it after everything he did for the business and charity. He will. Voice acting is a different ball of wax. I'm sure Kate McKinnon will keep getting work and this is like her 4th box office disappointment in a row. It says in his IMDb page that he has two movies coming out in 2018. I hope he succeeds. Matt Damon had a theory that when you're starting out as a movie star you get like two or three opportunities to stay a star. He failed with the legend of Bagger Vance but luckily for him The Bourne Identity came out shortly. Cena will apparently star in the transformers Bumblebee spin off, I hope that makes him a movie star.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 18, 2017 23:57:04 GMT -5
What will be annoying is that other studios won't give him many leading roles now because they'll see these numbers and go "Oh...oh. Oh no" when his movie received the shortest end of the stick possible.
Also, to add to the skepticism about the recent Disney/Fox deal, that means the top 2 movies in the world are now owned by the House of Mouse. That's going to becoming a more common occurrence in the next few years.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Dec 19, 2017 1:09:36 GMT -5
This is not nearly as bad for him as people are making it out to be,this was a voiceover role in a film that was opening against Star Wars.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 19, 2017 1:16:41 GMT -5
Of course it made way less than Star Wars. Any movie would. Other than the lowest opening record stat that's not really newsworthy. We'll see how it does next weekend. In the end, I'm sure it'll do fine. I'll tell you this: besides Star Wars and Ferdinand, I don't even know what movies are out in theaters right now. Coco is still out, and made $10 million this weekend, and it's been out for a few weeks. So Ferdinand also had to deal with that.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Dec 19, 2017 1:21:37 GMT -5
This is like when The Dark Knight opened up against Space Chimps ..
If it makes Cena feels better Space Chimps got a sequel.... I think, I can’t be assed going to imdb to look it up.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 19, 2017 1:35:53 GMT -5
I've read that they were only expecting to pull in about 12-15 million on the opening weekend anyways, so right around their own projections. I've seen that reported too so they at least weren't complete idiots thinking that they'd get a massive opening weekend against Star Wars.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 19, 2017 1:40:50 GMT -5
Cena aside, this isn't good news for Blue Sky who just got bought by Disney in the FOX Deal. Their last two movies (The previous being Ice Age: Collision Course) performed pretty badly, and they're gonna need to do better than this to remain afloat.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Dec 19, 2017 1:48:59 GMT -5
Cena's box office draw is
Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Dec 19, 2017 2:36:43 GMT -5
I don't think it is a horrible idea to try against Star Wars. Yeah, Star Wars is going to dominate but not everyone likes or can get into Star Wars. As long as you're not expecting a huge number it could be one where a movie could have a decent number. Yeah, just because a lot of people went out this weekend trying to see Star Wars doesn't actually mean that they went to see Star Wars. I was at a store today and overheard some guy talking to the cashier about how he couldn't get tickets for Star Wars, so he went to see something else instead (what that was, I didn't catch it). That's where there's potential for studios to make some money. If you're a studio, you can either a) put something out that is Star Wars adjacent, like a CG animated kid's movie, to try to capture the run-off of those who couldn't actually get a ticket this weekend, or you can b) counter-program to Star Wars, and put out something for adults and try to go after an older demographic (stronger content, higher rating, etc.). The mistake is putting out something that costs $100 million plus on the same weekend as something like Star Wars, which is going to monopolize the number of screens available.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 8:04:49 GMT -5
Yea, whoever put this movie the week/month of Star Wars coming out deserves to be fired Y'know, I was gonna reply with "counter programming to give families another option" and "if it'd have come out a few weeks ago, no big." .......but STAR WARS is aimed at kids too, and Pixar's COCO has been doing very well since Thanksgiving and that'd interfere even more directly with FERDINAND. So yeah, not a smart move by Blue Sky. Unless Ferdinand continues at its present level, which could maybe happen as the Star Wars madness levels out.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 19, 2017 8:14:24 GMT -5
Just put Cena in Star Wars.
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Post by Crimson on Dec 19, 2017 8:47:25 GMT -5
This is not nearly as bad for him as people are making it out to be,this was a voiceover role in a film that was opening against Star Wars. Yeah, but I gotta get my hot-takes in. But yeah, this isn't exactly a vehicle that was banking on Cena's drawing power.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 19, 2017 8:55:12 GMT -5
Cena aside, this isn't good news for Blue Sky who just got bought by Disney in the FOX Deal. Their last two movies (The previous being Ice Age: Collision Course) performed pretty badly, and they're gonna need to do better than this to remain afloat. I think they were pretty much dead no matter what they’re movies did. Disney doesn’t need another animation studio and the reports coming out of the merger is that nearly 10k jobs are being lost.
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