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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Dec 19, 2017 15:15:09 GMT -5
In terms of real emotion, they probably all were legit overjoyed, ya can't manufacture that. But they are supposed to be portraying enemies who compete with each other over titles and personal conflicts. It makes no sense for them to be overjoyed and celebrating together, much less with a woman who has consistently been portrayed as an abusive heel. They've broken kayfabe before. Sasha the heel celebrating with 3 other babyface women at Takeover Brooklyn, one being her opponent in the match, nobody opposed that.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 19, 2017 15:16:38 GMT -5
But they are supposed to be portraying enemies who compete with each other over titles and personal conflicts. It makes no sense for them to be overjoyed and celebrating together, much less with a woman who has consistently been portrayed as an abusive heel. They've broken kayfabe before. Sasha the heel celebrating with 3 other babyface women at Takeover Brooklyn, one being her opponent in the match, nobody opposed that. If I had seen that, I would have opposed it.
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Dec 19, 2017 15:21:25 GMT -5
They've broken kayfabe before. Sasha the heel celebrating with 3 other babyface women at Takeover Brooklyn, one being her opponent in the match, nobody opposed that. If I had seen that, I would have opposed it. Okay then.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 19, 2017 15:22:57 GMT -5
Like i said , i knew Raw would mess up Asuka In what way is she really "messed up" though? She's currently undefeated. The badass trio who have basically been running over the roster avoided her at first, and when they *did* go after her, she fought them off for a while, before the numbers became too much and help arrived to back her up. The announcers have sold her as a badass from day one. I mean, aside from her not having 20 second squashes every week, what else do you want?
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Post by Fauxnaki on Dec 19, 2017 15:26:20 GMT -5
But they are supposed to be portraying enemies who compete with each other over titles and personal conflicts. It makes no sense for them to be overjoyed and celebrating together, much less with a woman who has consistently been portrayed as an abusive heel. They've broken kayfabe before. Sasha the heel celebrating with 3 other babyface women at Takeover Brooklyn, one being her opponent in the match, nobody opposed that. I did
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Dec 19, 2017 16:01:50 GMT -5
They've broken kayfabe before. Sasha the heel celebrating with 3 other babyface women at Takeover Brooklyn, one being her opponent in the match, nobody opposed that. I did One person out of how many?
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Dec 19, 2017 16:09:45 GMT -5
I can't believe I missed this segment and I didn't even come into this thread until today. I'm so grateful I didn't see this when it happened.
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Post by BigAl on Dec 19, 2017 16:19:25 GMT -5
I hate how wwe jerks themselves off about their women's division. They should of been treated this years ago they have no reason to be proud of themselves. Its like if your stole £50 then celebrating the fact you gave it back eventually. You havnt done anything that's good just what's right now shut up and let me enjoy watching these women do what they do best. Monkey's Paw : Congratulations! WWE did all these "Historic Firsts" years ago! Here's Kelly Kelly vs. Maria Kanellis : Hell in a Cell! dont give them ideas!!!!
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Post by thetower52 on Dec 19, 2017 16:23:34 GMT -5
They've broken kayfabe before. Sasha the heel celebrating with 3 other babyface women at Takeover Brooklyn, one being her opponent in the match, nobody opposed that. I did I did as well. It was f***ing stupid. Not as stupid as when they gave Sasha and I think bayley f***ing flowers with the whksnroster on stage though. Do this shit backstage.
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Post by Baby, it’s Jes outside on Dec 19, 2017 16:43:12 GMT -5
Like i said , i knew Raw would mess up Asuka In what way is she really "messed up" though? She's currently undefeated. The badass trio who have basically been running over the roster avoided her at first, and when they *did* go after her, she fought them off for a while, before the numbers became too much and help arrived to back her up. The announcers have sold her as a badass from day one. I mean, aside from her not having 20 second squashes every week, what else do you want? Will getting eliminated from the Rumble count as Asuka’s first loss? I love her, but there’s no way she’s winning it.
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Post by doinkmark on Dec 19, 2017 16:51:01 GMT -5
Is it actually going to be 30 women in the match? With the winner getting a women's title shot at Mania? Because if not, it's going to make the whole thing seem inferior compared to the guy's version of the match, not to mention take away from the guy's version of the match by giving you the same match type earlier in the show.
Does WWE even HAVE thirty women on the roster? I guess if they use some women from developmental and the MYC, and maybe some from SmackDown. No matter what they do to be HISTORIC it still feels like the same 6 ladies trading the belt back and forth.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 19, 2017 17:10:57 GMT -5
One person out of how many? I thought it was bad as well. Especially when in the match, Sasha was trying intentionally trying to break Bayley's hand and put her out of action. Bell rings and everything you thought mattered in the match and the story washes away because guess what, it's all fake. Atleast that one wasn't gross like Triple H giving them flowers because they're girls.
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Dec 19, 2017 17:33:00 GMT -5
One person out of how many? I thought it was bad as well. Especially when in the match, Sasha was trying intentionally trying to break Bayley's hand and put her out of action. Bell rings and everything you thought mattered in the match and the story washes away because guess what, it's all fake. Atleast that one wasn't gross like Triple H giving them flowers because they're girls. I actually thought that was a really touching gesture by Trips.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Dec 19, 2017 17:42:51 GMT -5
All this real emotion talk reminds me of WrestleMania XIX.
Austin and Rock respected the hell out of each other, battled each other for years and helped make the other man into the star they'd become. Austin chooses Rock to end his career. After the match, Rock and him don't hug, don't cry, don't raise each other's hands. Rock covertly thanks him, tells him he respects him and that he loves him all while keeping the guise that they were still enemies.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 17:43:33 GMT -5
One person out of how many? .......... What I don't get is this: this is a depreciation thread. This entire thread you've stated that the segment hasn't bothered you, Stephanie hasn't bothered you, kayfabe has been dead so you're ok with their responses, you have no problem with how Asuka's portrayed and you even brought up a previous moment to defend yourself (which many people stated they disliked). Normally, this would be ok given there's usually 1 thread for these types of things but again...this is a depreciation thread. The whole point of the thread is about us airing our grievances towards the segment and not to cause an argument in these threads given others might disagree. In turn however someone made an appreciation thread officialfan.proboards.com/thread/567647/womens-royal-rumble-appreciation-threadwhich you yourself responded in. Why can't we just say what we want in a depreciation thread? This is no different than the Jinder Mahal "appreciation and depreciation" threads that have been made within the past few months. They were made for a reason.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 19, 2017 18:16:34 GMT -5
I thought it was bad as well. Especially when in the match, Sasha was trying intentionally trying to break Bayley's hand and put her out of action. Bell rings and everything you thought mattered in the match and the story washes away because guess what, it's all fake. Atleast that one wasn't gross like Triple H giving them flowers because they're girls. I actually thought that was a really touching gesture by Trips. Could've been done backstage without undercutting the entire match.
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Post by Shai on Dec 19, 2017 18:19:37 GMT -5
After the Women's MITB, I have absolutely no faith in WWE's ability to pull this off.
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Post by AlexaBliss4Life on Dec 19, 2017 18:24:16 GMT -5
I actually thought that was a really touching gesture by Trips. Could've been done backstage without undercutting the entire match. How did it do that?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 19, 2017 18:26:33 GMT -5
Could've been done backstage without undercutting the entire match. How did it do that? I explained it in my original post dude. It just tells you that the match we just watched was totally fake and they were working together to have a good match. Why are you trying to chase down people in a depreciation thread?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 18:44:42 GMT -5
Jesus tapdancing Christ, what do you want? Steph puts everyone over like crazy, makes a major match and treats the women as equals but because of this strange hatred people have for Steph y'all shit all over it. Seriously, what could be done that would actually work to set this up? You don't just throw it out there like it is meaningless and you need the most eyes on it as possible so what else is there? Vince doesn't want to be on TV, Shane and Bryan are feuding and Angle doesn't matter. I get this place is complete over seeing the women do anything labled historic for reasons I will never understand but this really seems like bitching for the sake of it. And f*** Moolah and any attempt to glorify her, I agree with that. Like, I get the mood whiplash of “EVERYBODY’S BRAWLING oh shit, the boss is here for something” and everyone being all sisterly and shit. That was weird. And I get that Steph’s done A LOT of bad over the years, really I do... But it’s almost at the point where she could cure cancer and some would get mad for her not acknowledging cancer’s right to exist. She can’t win... but it’s a situation of her own making. If she cured cancer, that'd be great & the ultimate act of humanitarianism. The problem is that she would do that only after emasculating & insulting every cancer patient around as to how weak and pathetic they are and how Ol' Lady Balls has to solve it herself. Its hard to like her simply because she has to get the last word in, edgewise, and has to take down anyone around her to look superior. And, for a heel, she fails miserably at her job due to it.
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