Who wins in a real fight in their prime - Haku vs. Brock

[psychokiller]

Let’s settle this in here. Who do you think would win in a real fight when both were in their prime?

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Brock easily.

Most of Haku's fight stories are of him against unruly drunks while Lesnar fought and destroyed professional fighters.

It would be a mismatch fight, Haku was just a tough man, Brock would just double leg him and be done with it.

[Amazing Kitsune]

In a UFC-style fight, I'd put my money on Brock.

In a random street brawl, it's a lot harder to predict. I'd still lean towards Brock.

[Natural Born Farmer]

Seriously? Monstrous shoot wrestler and former UFC champion against a guy who’s rep is based upon “he beat a drunk guys ass in a bar”? Please.

[Tiger Millionaire]

People do realize that Haku was a trained Sumo, who wasn't just some random tough guy. We will really never know, because I can't say that just because someone or a group of people came to prominence before Mixed Martial Arts became prominent and profitable that they weren't able to fight as well as people who are currently fighting in MMA.

[Corre.222]

The Tongan Death Grip is all she wrote 😂

[corndog]

I am going with Haku. Most of Lesnar's UFC success was him laying on people.

[Kevin Hamilton]

Unless/until any actual footage of Haku fighting surfaces, I can only go with Brock.

[Futureraven: Beelzebruv]

Jan 1, 2018 1:15:41 GMT -5 Tiger Millionaire said:

People do realize that Haku was a trained Sumo, who wasn't just some random tough guy. We will really never know, because I can't say that just because someone or a group of people came to prominence before Mixed Martial Arts became prominent and profitable that they weren't able to fight as well as people who are currently fighting in MMA.

So was Earthquake, who was pretty damned good at it, but he's never brought into tough guy arguments.

I'd actually still lean a little more towards Haku, just because he does have some shoot training, so he wouldn't be wading in totally untrained and also reportedly had an unholy pain tolerance.

Brock is a beast, but his chin/pain threshold were a bit suspect, he relied more on pure physicality to dominate people. I could see Haku taking the first onslaught and outlasting Brock.

Just don't like the "He trained in a martial art which more than makes up for all the training in various styles Brock did at a higher level" argument.

[Mozenrath]

Depends on what you call winning. Brock might beat Haku up, but it might cost him an eye or nose. That's uhh, some victory he'd have there.

["Playboy" Don Douglas]

In a structured and ruled fight, I'd take Brock.

In an anything goes brawl, I'd take Haku. As nice a guy as he is, he has it in him to rip out an eye or bite off a nose. I don't think that kind of thing would even occur to Brock.

[Mozenrath]

Jan 1, 2018 4:56:45 GMT -5 "Playboy" Don Douglas said:

In a structured and ruled fight, I'd take Brock.

In an anything goes brawl, I'd take Haku. As nice a guy as he is, he has it in him to rip out an eye or bite off a nose. I don't think that kind of thing would even occur to Brock.

Reminds me of Lance Storm saying, when asked in some context that I don't remember, saying he'd much rather fight Ken Shamrock than Regal or Haku. When pressed further on it, he elaborated that while he's sure Brock or Ken would kick his ass, he'd rather be beat up than disfigured or possibly killed.

[ThankGodForSidJustice]

Jan 1, 2018 3:45:47 GMT -5 Futureraven: Beelzebruv said:

Jan 1, 2018 1:15:41 GMT -5 Tiger Millionaire said:

People do realize that Haku was a trained Sumo, who wasn't just some random tough guy. We will really never know, because I can't say that just because someone or a group of people came to prominence before Mixed Martial Arts became prominent and profitable that they weren't able to fight as well as people who are currently fighting in MMA.

So was Earthquake, who was pretty damned good at it, but he's never brought into tough guy arguments.

I'd actually still lean a little more towards Haku, just because he does have some shoot training, so he wouldn't be wading in totally untrained and also reportedly had an unholy pain tolerance.

Brock is a beast, but his chin/pain threshold were a bit suspect, he relied more on pure physicality to dominate people. I could see Haku taking the first onslaught and outlasting Brock.

Just don't like the "He trained in a martial art which more than makes up for all the training in various styles Brock did at a higher level" argument.

According to Bret Hart, Quake was the legit toughest guy in the business when Steve Austin asked him the question when he had Bret on his podcast. A tough guy who was a successful sumo and amateur wrestler. He's actually someone who probably should be brought up in the tough guy
arguments more.

[The Thread Barbi]

Jan 1, 2018 6:15:07 GMT -5 ThankGodForSidJustice said:

Jan 1, 2018 3:45:47 GMT -5 Futureraven: Beelzebruv said:

So was Earthquake, who was pretty damned good at it, but he's never brought into tough guy arguments.

I'd actually still lean a little more towards Haku, just because he does have some shoot training, so he wouldn't be wading in totally untrained and also reportedly had an unholy pain tolerance.

Brock is a beast, but his chin/pain threshold were a bit suspect, he relied more on pure physicality to dominate people. I could see Haku taking the first onslaught and outlasting Brock.

Just don't like the "He trained in a martial art which more than makes up for all the training in various styles Brock did at a higher level" argument.

According to Bret Hart, Quake was the legit toughest guy in the business when Steve Austin asked him the question when he had Bret on his podcast. A tough guy who was a successful sumo and amateur wrestler. He's actually someone who probably should be brought up in the tough guy
arguments more.

I have heard similar. Let's not forget Earthquake's background in the gridiron as well.

I think we don't have any stories regarding his toughness as no one dared try him, not to mention he was a gentleman.

Brock Lesnar vs Haku? I don't know. None of the boys dared get in Haku's face, yet teeny tiny Jericho got in Brock's. Besides, Jericho was Haku's protégé.

Lesnar might have the skills and power to overcome Haku, but can he out-do the crazy?

[Alice Syndrome]

Jan 1, 2018 16:42:11 GMT -5 The Thread Barbi said:

Jan 1, 2018 6:15:07 GMT -5 ThankGodForSidJustice said:

According to Bret Hart, Quake was the legit toughest guy in the business when Steve Austin asked him the question when he had Bret on his podcast. A tough guy who was a successful sumo and amateur wrestler. He's actually someone who probably should be brought up in the tough guy
arguments more.

I have heard similar. Let's not forget Earthquake's background in the gridiron as well.

I think we don't have any stories regarding his toughness as no one dared try him, not to mention he was a gentleman.

Brock Lesnar vs Haku? I don't know. None of the boys dared get in Haku's face, yet teeny tiny Jericho got in Brock's. Besides, Jericho was Haku's protégé.

Lesnar might have the skills and power to overcome Haku, but can he out-do the crazy?

Yeah, Brock wouldn't gite somebody's nose off or rip their teeth out with his bare hands, which is why I bet on Haku.

[2coldMack is even more baffled]

Jan 1, 2018 16:42:11 GMT -5 The Thread Barbi said:

Jan 1, 2018 6:15:07 GMT -5 ThankGodForSidJustice said:

According to Bret Hart, Quake was the legit toughest guy in the business when Steve Austin asked him the question when he had Bret on his podcast. A tough guy who was a successful sumo and amateur wrestler. He's actually someone who probably should be brought up in the tough guy
arguments more.

I have heard similar. Let's not forget Earthquake's background in the gridiron as well.

I think we don't have any stories regarding his toughness as no one dared try him, not to mention he was a gentleman.

Brock Lesnar vs Haku? I don't know. None of the boys dared get in Haku's face, yet teeny tiny Jericho got in Brock's. Besides, Jericho was Haku's protégé.

Lesnar might have the skills and power to overcome Haku, but can he out-do the crazy?

Well, Tenta whipped Koji Kitao's ass in a shoot once, but Kitao had it coming. Taking no shit off a legitimate former yokozuna has to be up there in the "tough guy pantheon".

[thegatewaydrug]

Always King Tonga

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Haku. If you’re talking a street fight. Pro fighter don’t mean shit in a street fight.

[fw91]

Jan 1, 2018 18:10:24 GMT -5 Cranjis McBasketball said:

Haku. If you’re talking a street fight. Pro fighter don’t mean shit in a street fight.

but wouldn't brock in theory, be able to take down Haku easily?

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Jan 1, 2018 18:16:09 GMT -5 fw91 said:

Jan 1, 2018 18:10:24 GMT -5 Cranjis McBasketball said:

Haku. If you’re talking a street fight. Pro fighter don’t mean shit in a street fight.

but wouldn't brock in theory, be able to take down Haku easily?

Sure, in theory, Jericho took down Goldberg because Goldberg was stupid enough to drop his head, so Jericho just put him in a front face lock.