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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 13:22:37 GMT -5
lol WWE doctors are the best in the world? Mother f***ers cleared Kurt Angle, couldn't find a staph infection, almost missed a life-threatening injury in Edge, Are totally sure Jinder Mahal isn't on steroids, and have in the past helped wrestlers circumvent these rules by returning them far earlier than is healthy or having them work through things they shouldn't causing injuries to worsen.
Top notch guys.
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Post by The Captain on Jan 10, 2018 13:29:16 GMT -5
The ideal thing would be for both WWE and Bryan to seek out the opinion of a neutral third party doctor about his fitness to wrestle with no personal connections to Bryan or under the employ of WWE. And their decision sticks. If they decide Bryan is fit to wrestle, WWE should let that happen, likely with legalese written into a contract absolving them of any responsibility if Bryan suffers further head trauma. If the doctor determines that it's still too risky for Bryan to wrestle, he accepts retirement. If not for his sake, then for his wife and child's.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 10, 2018 13:34:48 GMT -5
Bryan made a comment about "The Timing Not Being Good" a while back, which leads to more than ever believe it entirely hinges on the lawsuit, and both sides pretty much resigned to that it's probably not going to be over before Bryan's contract is up.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 10, 2018 13:39:21 GMT -5
The ideal thing would be for both WWE and Bryan to seek out the opinion of a neutral third party doctor about his fitness to wrestle with no personal connections to Bryan or under the employ of WWE. And their decision sticks. If they decide Bryan is fit to wrestle, WWE should let that happen, likely with legalese written into a contract absolving them of any responsibility if Bryan suffers further head trauma. If the doctor determines that it's still too risky for Bryan to wrestle, he accepts retirement. If not for his sake, then for his wife and child's. Agreed about the 3rd party doctor being involved to give a "final judgement" However, as stated earlier even with WWE having Bryan sign a legal waiver it's still going to be a shit storm their way if Bryan gets further injured so if they still had lingering doubts he can't wrestle they won't let him |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 10, 2018 13:51:08 GMT -5
The ideal thing would be for both WWE and Bryan to seek out the opinion of a neutral third party doctor about his fitness to wrestle with no personal connections to Bryan or under the employ of WWE. And their decision sticks. If they decide Bryan is fit to wrestle, WWE should let that happen, likely with legalese written into a contract absolving them of any responsibility if Bryan suffers further head trauma. If the doctor determines that it's still too risky for Bryan to wrestle, he accepts retirement. If not for his sake, then for his wife and child's. But isn't the crux of the issue that Bryan has been seeking neutral third party doctors and found repeated clearance from pretty much everyone who isn't under WWE payroll? Over the past few years he's kept seeing doctors, kept looking for solutions or second opinions, and the only party that hasn't come around on the matter has been WWE in all of this. This won't happen entirely because WWE has decided that their doctor and only their doctor will be considered for this. |
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Post by Andy Martin on Jan 10, 2018 14:04:00 GMT -5
After what happened with Shibata and his head injuries catching up to him, they will probably do every test possible on Bryan to make sure he’s able to compete From everything I've heard, Bryan has been cleared by the vast majority of doctors he's gone to. But Dr. Maroon is the one not budging. Have any of these doctors that supposedly cleared Bryan come out publicly or are we taking the word of a guy who has admittedly lied about his own medical history at face value?(Genuinely asking because I can't recall seeing anything) |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 10, 2018 14:10:20 GMT -5
From everything I've heard, Bryan has been cleared by the vast majority of doctors he's gone to. But Dr. Maroon is the one not budging. Have any of these doctors that supposedly cleared Bryan come out publicly or are we taking the word of a guy who has admittedly lied about his own medical history at face value?(Genuinely asking because I can't recall seeing anything) I believe Bryan has said so I don't think a doctor has officially released a statement about it but I could be wrong |
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Post by Shai on Jan 10, 2018 14:35:09 GMT -5
As much as I would love to see DB in a WWE ring again...WWE has to look at the fact that he's lied to them before. On multiple occasions. Even if they were to clear him how could they be 100% certain he'd tell them about any symptoms he might suffer from in the future? I can understand why their being SUPER cautious.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 10, 2018 14:41:33 GMT -5
lol WWE doctors are the best in the world? Mother f***ers cleared Kurt Angle, couldn't find a staph infection, almost missed a life-threatening injury in Edge, Are totally sure Jinder Mahal isn't on steroids, and have in the past helped wrestlers circumvent these rules by returning them far earlier than is healthy or having them work through things they shouldn't causing injuries to worsen. Top notch guys. Right there, folks. WWE's medical and wellness are a joke. I'll take the word of all the countless non-WWE medical professionals Bryan has seen over the word of a bunch of crackpots on Vince's payroll. |
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jan 10, 2018 14:44:38 GMT -5
I still wouldn't put it past WWE to not let Bryan wrestle even if cleared because they simply don't want to push him and find his presence as a wrestler to be a distraction from the rubes that they want to push.
With that being said, the interviewer never asked Triple H if they would let Bryan wrestle if he's cleared. He asked him if he would break their policy. Of course the answer is no. I think he was afraid to ask the real direct question so he asked that workaround softball.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 14:54:22 GMT -5
I love Hunter.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 10, 2018 15:38:48 GMT -5
From everything I've heard, Bryan has been cleared by the vast majority of doctors he's gone to. But Dr. Maroon is the one not budging. Have any of these doctors that supposedly cleared Bryan come out publicly or are we taking the word of a guy who has admittedly lied about his own medical history at face value?(Genuinely asking because I can't recall seeing anything) Doctors don't come out and make public statements about patients' medical conditions. That's what HIPPA is for. |
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 10, 2018 15:49:19 GMT -5
Seriously, though, WWE's doctors cleared Kurt Angle, or, more than likely, never even gave him a glance, so.....yeah, I'm not taking their word for shit.
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Post by lildude8218 on Jan 10, 2018 16:36:18 GMT -5
David Schultz says he's fine
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 10, 2018 16:45:51 GMT -5
David Schultz says he's fine  |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 10, 2018 17:09:00 GMT -5
He's right that you can't make exceptions to the policy. I just doubt that every wrestler on the roster has been subjected to the same kind of testing that Daniel has.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Jan 10, 2018 17:14:17 GMT -5
Well, he's the doctor of thuganomics brother in law, so maybe he's being held down?
Seriously, I agree with WWE on this one. If it means Daniel Bryan lives a full, healthy life ands gets to see his child(ren) grown up, then good, don't get back in the ring.
Yes, the exhilaration of having tens of thousands of people chanting your name is a great feeling, but Fame is fleeting, family is not.
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Post by angryfan on Jan 10, 2018 17:17:48 GMT -5
The killer for them was Angle. They put him in the ring, despite letting him go because he wouldn't go to rehab, despite the neck injuries, and he does have a history of conussions, both in and out of WWE. So they put h im in, even for one match, and that's the killer for them. Oh he's had concussion and addiction and a neck made of wire and hope, but we put him in the ring. If D-Bry wants in, and goes to court and throws the Angle example out there with just the stuff that they ahve publicly admitted, then he wins.Yeah, I'd rather see him stay retired and as healthy as possible, but the company line can kill them.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Jan 10, 2018 17:22:30 GMT -5
No exceptions, eh HHH? When was the last time you or Brock had to pass that wellness test?
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 10, 2018 17:28:59 GMT -5
The killer for them was Angle. They put him in the ring, despite letting him go because he wouldn't go to rehab, despite the neck injuries, and he does have a history of conussions, both in and out of WWE. So they put h im in, even for one match, and that's the killer for them. Oh he's had concussion and addiction and a neck made of wire and hope, but we put him in the ring. If D-Bry wants in, and goes to court and throws the Angle example out there with just the stuff that they ahve publicly admitted, then he wins.Yeah, I'd rather see him stay retired and as healthy as possible, but the company line can kill them. Goes to court on what basis? |
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