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Post by angryfan on Jan 10, 2018 17:58:44 GMT -5
The killer for them was Angle. They put him in the ring, despite letting him go because he wouldn't go to rehab, despite the neck injuries, and he does have a history of conussions, both in and out of WWE. So they put h im in, even for one match, and that's the killer for them. Oh he's had concussion and addiction and a neck made of wire and hope, but we put him in the ring. If D-Bry wants in, and goes to court and throws the Angle example out there with just the stuff that they ahve publicly admitted, then he wins.Yeah, I'd rather see him stay retired and as healthy as possible, but the company line can kill them. Goes to court on what basis? If his contract is a downside or something or based on appearnaces or any of that, he can argue that he's not making the money he could based on their desire to, in essence, blacklist him from performing. They will, obviously, maek the same argument about health, but the Angle situation says "We can put in a guy with a bad neck, history of both adiction adn concussions, but the other guy with the history of concussions we keep out because we're being sued". |
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Post by gl83 on Jan 10, 2018 19:59:59 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 10, 2018 20:01:37 GMT -5
Well in WWE defense they can say they did what they can to keep him as a character on the roster HOWEVER, I did expect petty movements from them as soon as he's off contract |
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Post by Dub H on Jan 10, 2018 20:50:53 GMT -5
This shows at least they value Bryan.(if true0 Payed equal amount of money equal to a main event wrestler while not needing to wrestle is no joke. Very few people would turn that down. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 10, 2018 20:55:02 GMT -5
This shows at least they value Bryan.(if true0 Payed equal amount of money equal to a main event wrestler while not needing to wrestle is no joke. Very few people would turn that down. Yea, you are guaranteed over 1 million for an onscreen role and some extra things like commentary I guess he doesn't want to commit to it because obviously he wants to wrestle and I guess he wants more freedom tho to have that money for his role is nothing to scoff about if true |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 21:16:45 GMT -5
This shows at least they value Bryan.(if true0 Payed equal amount of money equal to a main event wrestler while not needing to wrestle is no joke. Very few people would turn that down. I think it is less of what they value Daniel as then it is how much the rest of the industry values Daniel...One way or another we will get the return of the Yes Movement or the American Dragon in a wrestling ring this year...Hopefully with more cattle mutilation |
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Post by Kyn on Jan 10, 2018 21:25:52 GMT -5
They "put the human being first"?!? How did HHH not explode in a ball of flames when he said that?
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Post by Tenshigure on Jan 10, 2018 21:28:50 GMT -5
The killer for them was Angle. They put him in the ring, despite letting him go because he wouldn't go to rehab, despite the neck injuries, and he does have a history of conussions, both in and out of WWE. So they put h im in, even for one match, and that's the killer for them. Oh he's had concussion and addiction and a neck made of wire and hope, but we put him in the ring. If D-Bry wants in, and goes to court and throws the Angle example out there with just the stuff that they ahve publicly admitted, then he wins.Yeah, I'd rather see him stay retired and as healthy as possible, but the company line can kill them. Sue them for what, exactly? Just because he's not actively wrestling doesn't mean they have to put him in the ring while under contract. Sure, he could leave the company and try to get booked right away in contradiction to his 90-day no-compete clause, but with how long he's been fighting this, it'd be way too expensive of a move to make this late in the game with his contract ending so soon. Not only that, but I'd like to think that he would rather not jeopardize his wife's position in the WWE either (I wouldn't be surprised if that was their marital agreement on the wrestling matter). I have no doubt that Bryan will wrestle within the next year; whether that will be with the WWE or any other company is going to be up to all parties involved. But trying to force this hand with a legal manner when the reality is there are plenty of other companies more than happy to have him, it'd be a waste of his time to pursue any kind of legal action against them. EDIT: As for the contract extension, of course he's not going to accept anything that doesn't include guaranteed in-ring work. It'll likely require a completely new contract, not just a renewal of his existing one. |
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Jan 10, 2018 21:30:19 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan has been pretty open about how much he dislikes his current position. He liked wrestling, but didn't much care for the non-stop travel, promos, and everything else that came with the territory. He was willing to deal with all that if it meant being able to what he loved in front of the biggest possible audience. But take wrestling out of the equation and you've just got a very time-consuming, travel-intensive schedule that's mainly doing something he doesn't enjoy.
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Post by MAGGLE on Jan 10, 2018 21:30:28 GMT -5
I can only recommend that you watch his interview with Hot 97 on youtube. He explains the situation fully. He already went to all the WWE doctors and his own doctors and all of them cleared him. He also talks about concussion research etc.
This man is clearly reasonable and the assumptions from people on this forum that know nothing about the topic is insulting IMO.
He is just discussing the option of wrestling again and that he wants to understand what the problem is. If you go to 10 doctors and they all clear you, would you think you are injured?.
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on Jan 10, 2018 21:31:48 GMT -5
*if* this news is true, all I have to say is OH COME ON! He's getting paid almost the same amount as a guy like Roman Reigns without all of the physical activities, house shows, and getting mercifully booed and he's turning it down? Why? He's a proud guy that's for sure, but hopefully he knows what he's doing because it's not about just him anymore. |
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Post by Larryhausen on Jan 10, 2018 21:39:24 GMT -5
*if* this news is true, all I have to say is OH COME ON! He's getting paid almost the same amount as a guy like Roman Reigns without all of the physical activities, house shows, and getting mercifully booed and he's turning it down? Why? He's a proud guy that's for sure, but hopefully he knows what he's doing because it's not about just him anymore. Because he doesn't enjoy it. And if you're miserable, AND feeling like you're being intentionally held back for bullshit reasons, the money ain't gonna mean much. |
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Post by Dub H on Jan 10, 2018 21:54:54 GMT -5
*if* this news is true, all I have to say is OH COME ON! He's getting paid almost the same amount as a guy like Roman Reigns without all of the physical activities, house shows, and getting mercifully booed and he's turning it down? Why? He's a proud guy that's for sure, but hopefully he knows what he's doing because it's not about just him anymore. Because he doesn't enjoy it. And if you're miserable, AND feeling like you're being intentionally held back for bullshit reasons, the money ain't gonna mean much. Plus he is already rich from all his WWE time. he ain't like Cena that needs to have a mansion and 20 cars |
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Post by nisidhe on Jan 10, 2018 21:55:05 GMT -5
_If_ it is true that D-Bry's turned down a contract extension under terms even close to that, he's a damn fool. However, I doubt he's hurting for money at the moment, and money may not be enough to keep him in WWE. There is something to be said for integrity; I doubt Brie would have married him if that wasn't something she was okay with. At least if anything happens in the indies, WWE can say they did their best to protect him under the circumstances.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 10, 2018 21:59:29 GMT -5
Because he doesn't enjoy it. And if you're miserable, AND feeling like you're being intentionally held back for bullshit reasons, the money ain't gonna mean much. Plus he is already rich from all his WWE time. he ain't like Cena that needs to have a mansion and 20 cars Plus his brother in law is Cena so it's not like he will be "black balled" forever from WWE Sure, they aren't going to want anything to do with him for a while once he leaves but whenever he finally feels like he's done wrestling, WWE will have him back on Legends Deal eventually |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 10, 2018 22:01:27 GMT -5
I can only recommend that you watch his interview with Hot 97 on youtube. He explains the situation fully. He already went to all the WWE doctors and his own doctors and all of them cleared him. He also talks about concussion research etc. This man is clearly reasonable and the assumptions from people on this forum that know nothing about the topic is insulting IMO. He is just discussing the option of wrestling again and that he wants to understand what the problem is. If you go to 10 doctors and they all clear you, would you think you are injured?. It's all our own opinions at the end of the day so while known us may be medical experts we still care about the person behind the character just like you care about the person behind the character |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 10, 2018 22:32:05 GMT -5
If that's true, that seems really dumb on his part financially. I get that that's not the only consideration, but still. |
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 10, 2018 22:55:32 GMT -5
I can only recommend that you watch his interview with Hot 97 on youtube. He explains the situation fully. He already went to all the WWE doctors and his own doctors and all of them cleared him. He also talks about concussion research etc. This man is clearly reasonable and the assumptions from people on this forum that know nothing about the topic is insulting IMO. He is just discussing the option of wrestling again and that he wants to understand what the problem is. If you go to 10 doctors and they all clear you, would you think you are injured?. It's all our own opinions at the end of the day so while known us may be medical experts we still care about the person behind the character just like you care about the person behind the character But here's the thing: The sanctimony of "Well, I hope he knows what he's doing, he's a FATHER NOW!" falls flat when, yeah, the guy clearly knows what he's doing, and knows better from better medical professionals than we know. Yes, it's your opinion. But you'll forgive me if I give yours much, much less regard than various medical professionals who have actually seen the dude's situation, instead of just playing the scold. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 10, 2018 22:55:32 GMT -5
No exceptions, eh HHH? When was the last time you or Brock had to pass that wellness test? I believe it was Scott Steiner who said he’d do a piss test when Triple H did one. WWE dropped the issue. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 10, 2018 23:06:38 GMT -5
It's all our own opinions at the end of the day so while known us may be medical experts we still care about the person behind the character just like you care about the person behind the character But here's the thing: The sanctimony of "Well, I hope he knows what he's doing, he's a FATHER NOW!" falls flat when, yeah, the guy clearly knows what he's doing, and knows better from better medical professionals than we know. Yes, it's your opinion. But you'll forgive me if I give yours much, much less regard than various medical professionals who have actually seen the dude's situation, instead of just playing the scold. But on the flip side of things this is what DB is telling us and obviously a doctor can't reveal what his test are So it's as simple as once he's off contract he gets to do what he wants but at the end of the day it's still just a matter of WWE word vs DB word If you are on WWE side cool and if you are DB side even better(not saying you specifically), but it just don't matter to me anymore as he's a grown man and can make his own life decisions but obviously as long as he's under their contract he has to "play by their rules" |
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